EF 11-24 f/4L USM Specifications

Etienne said:
PhotographyFirst said:
cpreston said:
PhotographyFirst said:
Which lenses come with a filter? I never seen one.

You can buy filters for these types of lenses, so....?

Gotta dig harder than that for something to complain about! :)

The original comment was about the inability to screw a filter on the front of this lens. This could be expected based on how wide the lens is, but it still means the lens isn't perfect for those of us who want to use grad or CPL filters on a wide angle lens.

So a filter is only good if it screws and doesn't slide like the current Lee filter system made for ultra-ultra wide angle lenses with no thread on the front?

There already exists plenty of filter options for these types of lenses. A filter holder should be out quickly for this specific lens.

Maybe I am just being obtuse, but I don't see the issue here. Plus, there is no use in putting a CPL on any lens wider than 16mm due to the way CPL's work.
I use a Linear 4x4 Lee Polarizer on my 16-35L II @ 16mm, just fine.

Skies are the worst way to use a CPL for any focal length. I only use them for forest photos and removing water reflections.

Like I mentioned above, it is also possible to rotate the CPL effect from shot to shot and blend in post.

Regardless, the 11-24 is going to be a fantastic landscape lens especially if it is Uber sharp with well-controlled distortion.
Even 24 mm can be a problem with CPL ... you'll get striped areas across the frame. And with ultrawide lenses, the skies tend to be blue even without a CPL. CPL are most useful between about 28 to 70 mm (FF)
 
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LDS said:
PhotographyFirst said:
wider than 16mm due to the way CPL's work.

CPLs don't work with skies only... nor this lens.

+1
if you need darker skies a gradient ND filter might do the trick - sort of same thing with CPL's, as they can'r be used ALLL the time for everything with all focal lengths.
Very usefull to remove glare in water, shinny surfaces, slow down shutter in some situations, and many other that don't have any or some blue sky

sometimes works fine just rotating a little bit...

Actually that side effect can even show at 35mm but more likely below 24mm
 
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danski0224 said:
Hoping for some winning lottery tickets here....

Yes my wishlist is growing too but I'm a mere mortal ::) In any case I'd prefer this over a 14mm prime. There are other lenses that are higher up my list, so a UWA zoom is not likely to join my outfit within the foreseeable future. That is, if the price is as high as one might expect.
 
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Do you think this could be a good replacement for a Zeiss 21mm 2.8 and a Canon 17mm TSE? I usually leave one or the other at home, on the shelf. I don't really have much use for the TSE either. I'd probably prefer a 14-24mm 2.8 though.
 
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Eldar said:
It must be insanely good to tempt me. I don´t remember having missed not having a wider lens than 15mm, where the Zeiss is doing a magnificent job and the combined quality and functionality of the 16-35 f4L IS fills in.

Both of these lenses take regular filters, whereas this new one will need a Lee-rig, which I (from experience) leave at home.

But Canon knows that the Nikon 14-24 is the benchmark. That combined with the quality of the latest pro-glass they have released, I´m prepared for a stunning performer and yet another temptation ...

Eldar, with your lens collection, 11-24 f4 indeed should be insanely good :)
 
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ok, just a quicky with a P&S - It seems to me that the 11-24 is a little smaller than the 16-35 f/4
Not a precise/scientific comparison, but I think it might close enough
 

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As for CPL's, here is my 145mm CPL on the 17TS-E, which I often shift stitch to an 11mm fov.

The CPL, as NWPhil says, can be used very effectively for water and shinny services, I use mine for controlling glare and reflections on swimming pools, granite worktops and bathrooms.

I strongly suspect Fotodiox will have an 11-24 version of the Wonderpana out pretty quickly.
 

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privatebydesign said:
As for CPL's, here is my 145mm CPL on the 17TS-E, which I often shift stitch to an 11mm fov.

The CPL, as NWPhil says, can be used very effectively for water and shinny services, I use mine for controlling glare and reflections on swimming pools, granite worktops and bathrooms.

I strongly suspect Fotodiox will have an 11-24 version of the Wonderpana out pretty quickly.
I did not know they had this solution for the 17 TS-E and I could not find it at B&H. I would be most interested and if you could provide full name and number, it would be most appreciated.
 
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wtlloyd said:
Image comparison of lens size on Northlight Images site:

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_new_lenses.html

From a technical standpoint, this is one heck of an advanced glass design!

1x large diameter ground aspheric lens
1x large-diameter glass molded aspherical lens
2x glass molded aspherical lenses
1x super UD lens
1x lens UD
8) 8) 8)
 
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privatebydesign said:
As for CPL's, here is my 145mm CPL on the 17TS-E, which I often shift stitch to an 11mm fov.

The CPL, as NWPhil says, can be used very effectively for water and shinny services, I use mine for controlling glare and reflections on swimming pools, granite worktops and bathrooms.

I strongly suspect Fotodiox will have an 11-24 version of the Wonderpana out pretty quickly.

Darn, and I believed my 95mm filter was big....

Seems that the new 11-24 has an integrated hood, similar to other newer UWA lenses.
That alone is going to create issues adapting a filer system to it.
For sure I will wait to hear and see test results on this new lens - hopefully, it will at least be equal to Nikon's 14-24 f2.8.
I would not be surprised with the rumored price if the lens was a f2.8 - @ f/4 seems bit too much, but again, maybe it's really even better than Nikon's offering, and sharp right from f/4

The overall size and exterior looks seem fine for me, and if indeed supports a internal focusing design, then even better.
Maybe f/4 is the new f2.8, now that Canon is coming with higher MP cameras and what seems to be a more robust iso - time will tell.
Meanwhile, is very entertaining reading about all this in the main forums ;D
 
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NWPhil said:
privatebydesign said:
As for CPL's, here is my 145mm CPL on the 17TS-E, which I often shift stitch to an 11mm fov.

The CPL, as NWPhil says, can be used very effectively for water and shinny services, I use mine for controlling glare and reflections on swimming pools, granite worktops and bathrooms.

I strongly suspect Fotodiox will have an 11-24 version of the Wonderpana out pretty quickly.

Darn, and I believed my 95mm filter was big....

Seems that the new 11-24 has an integrated hood, similar to other newer UWA lenses.
That alone is going to create issues adapting a filer system to it.
For sure I will wait to hear and see test results on this new lens - hopefully, it will at least be equal to Nikon's 14-24 f2.8.
I would not be surprised with the rumored price if the lens was a f2.8 - @ f/4 seems bit too much, but again, maybe it's really even better than Nikon's offering, and sharp right from f/4

The overall size and exterior looks seem fine for me, and if indeed supports a internal focusing design, then even better.
Maybe f/4 is the new f2.8, now that Canon is coming with higher MP cameras and what seems to be a more robust iso - time will tell.
Meanwhile, is very entertaining reading about all this in the main forums ;D

Not really, Fotodiox have done a good job with all the other ultrawides with built in lens hoods. They all use the same 145mm filters both round and rectangles for the grads.
 
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Eldar said:
privatebydesign said:
As for CPL's, here is my 145mm CPL on the 17TS-E, which I often shift stitch to an 11mm fov.

The CPL, as NWPhil says, can be used very effectively for water and shinny services, I use mine for controlling glare and reflections on swimming pools, granite worktops and bathrooms.

I strongly suspect Fotodiox will have an 11-24 version of the Wonderpana out pretty quickly.
I did not know they had this solution for the 17 TS-E and I could not find it at B&H. I would be most interested and if you could provide full name and number, it would be most appreciated.

Hi there Eldar,

It is the Fotodiox Wonderpana 145, they do several versions, the 145 that just has a 145 filter thread, the 66 which has slots and the 145 thread but doesn't rotate, and the 66 FreeArc that has slots the 145 thread and does rotate, I have the basic 145 because I only use round filters, but they also do one called the FreeArc that has slots for grads etc. You need to work out what functionality you want/need first then narrow down the large range of kit options that include various filter packages.

For the 17TS-E it works with zero vignetting at all shift amounts, and even with full shift and 4º tilt, or full tilt and a touch of shift, far and away the best solution for the 17.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fotodiox+wonderpana+17+TS-E&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Afotodiox+wonderpana+17+TS-E
 
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privatebydesign said:
Eldar said:
privatebydesign said:
As for CPL's, here is my 145mm CPL on the 17TS-E, which I often shift stitch to an 11mm fov.

The CPL, as NWPhil says, can be used very effectively for water and shinny services, I use mine for controlling glare and reflections on swimming pools, granite worktops and bathrooms.

I strongly suspect Fotodiox will have an 11-24 version of the Wonderpana out pretty quickly.
I did not know they had this solution for the 17 TS-E and I could not find it at B&H. I would be most interested and if you could provide full name and number, it would be most appreciated.

Hi there Eldar,

It is the Fotodiox Wonderpana 145, they do several versions, the 145 that just has a 145 filter thread, the 66 which has slots and the 145 thread but doesn't rotate, and the 66 FreeArc that has slots the 145 thread and does rotate, I have the basic 145 because I only use round filters, but they also do one called the FreeArc that has slots for grads etc. You need to work out what functionality you want/need first then narrow down the large range of kit options that include various filter packages.

For the 17TS-E it works with zero vignetting at all shift amounts, and even with full shift and 4º tilt, or full tilt and a touch of shift, far and away the best solution for the 17.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fotodiox+wonderpana+17+TS-E&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Afotodiox+wonderpana+17+TS-E
Thanks Private. This will be ordered!
 
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BeenThere said:
A rear gelatin filter holder is in the OP spec. How does that work? Can an ND or polarizer gelatin be mounted at the rear of the lens? Obviously a pain with polarizer, having to remove lens from the body to rotate to a new position?

ND yes, I have done it; polarizer, I wouldn't even bother trying.
 
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