EOS-1D X & EOS 5D Mark III Replacements in 2015 [CR1]

dolina said:
As for major sporting events the next ones are the 2016 Sumner Games in Brazil, 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia and 2018 Winter Games in Korea.

I dont know of any major sporting event in 2015 so my bet is the new 1-Series body will be out sometime in 2016.

The Rugby World Cup is a truly massive sporting event, and will take place in 2015. It will take place in England. I can't wait, as am already looking forward to it!!! ;D

In fact from memory the RWC is only beaten by FIFA World Cup and the Olympics in terms of viewership. Massive. Come on England!!! ;D
 
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expatinasia said:
dolina said:
As for major sporting events the next ones are the 2016 Sumner Games in Brazil, 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia and 2018 Winter Games in Korea.

I dont know of any major sporting event in 2015 so my bet is the new 1-Series body will be out sometime in 2016.

The Rugby World Cup is a truly massive sporting event, and will take place in 2015. It will take place in England. I can't wait, as am already looking forward to it!!! ;D

World cup of Cricket also happens early 2015. Thats three major events in 2015!
 
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assassin11 said:
expatinasia said:
dolina said:
As for major sporting events the next ones are the 2016 Sumner Games in Brazil, 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia and 2018 Winter Games in Korea.

I dont know of any major sporting event in 2015 so my bet is the new 1-Series body will be out sometime in 2016.

The Rugby World Cup is a truly massive sporting event, and will take place in 2015. It will take place in England. I can't wait, as am already looking forward to it!!! ;D

World cup of Cricket also happens early 2015. Thats three major events in 2015!
and the Constance Bay Ice Fishing tournament. That makes four!
 
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R1-7D said:
assassin11 said:
dolina said:
I dont know of any major sporting event in 2015 so my bet is the new 1-Series body will be out sometime in 2016.


Would the 2015 Pam am games in Toronto be considered a major sporting event?

No.


1Ds Mark III was announced in August 2007, just weeks after the 2007 Pan Am Games in Rio. The Canon EOS-1D X was announced in October 2011 during the Pan AM games in Guadalajara. Just saying.
 
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I feel as though everyone gets their hopes up about WHAT SHOULD BE in the new body... and then when it comes out well below the wishlist, people's hopes are crestfallen... I don't want to say yall are setting yourself up for disappointment... but I think that is the case.

Maybe there is a new sensor... with dual pixel since they haven't integrated it into the mkiii's firmware, and maybe gps, 4K vid, and wifi... and a price tag of $4000... So... maybe... we should curb our enthusiasm
 
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Tugela said:
unfocused said:
They are under no competitive pressure to update any of their full frame models. Since the pressure is not coming from the outside, the only reason to update would be internal pressure and that would require a truly revolutionary advancement.

The purpose of updating is to ensure that competitive pressure does not develop in the first place, not to respond to pressure that has developed. If you wait for pressure to develop you are effectively ceding market share to your competitors, giving them a foothold, and if you want to stay top dog it is in your best interests to see that does not happen.

As soon as you start operating reactively rather than proactively, you have already lost the game.
 
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I'm with you vscd. No matter how convenient it may be to find a SDXC card they're currently limited to speeds of 2,130x while CFast is limited to 4,096x. It would be incredibly shortsighted of Canon to do such a thing to the 5D3 replacement.

Although I can see a faster SD & dual SD being done on a 6D replacement.

P2 cards must RAID SD cards with an LSI controller within a PC card enclosure to reach read/write speeds acceptable to electronic news-gathering applications. I only mention P2 cards to demo how slow these SD and its succsors arecards are within a pro-level application. CFast was designed to take on P2 cards.

vscd said:
steliosk said:
- faster SD card slot
- dual SD (get rid of that ancient and expensive CF)

Your position. Hopefully they won't do that.

- and yes.. MORE DR please.. kill that banding in the shadows, buy sensors from Sony for Christ sake as nikon does.
- more mp like 40mp (and 20mp mRAW) that those great lenses such as 24-70 2.8 II, 70-200 2.8 II and 16-35 f/4 can handle!

Why do you need a Canon, just grab the latest Nikon with your fancy Toshiba/Sony/Whatsoever-Sensor and get lucky. I don't understand why you bought a 5DM3 when everything inside is wrong for you, even the Memorycard.

You'll get an equally good 24-70 or 70-200@Nikon. And who needs 40MPixel? Get a Pano-tool. Understand it. Use it.

P.S. I'm glad that there are companies out there who invent their own sensors, like Sigma or Canon.

As for the sporting events in 2015... you guys made me LOLz at your definition of major sporting events. All the sporting events mentioned are as massive as the NBA. :))
 
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expatinasia said:
dolina said:
As for the sporting events in 2015... you guys made me LOLz at your definition of major sporting events. All the sporting events mentioned are as massive as the NBA. :))

The Rugby World Cup is a truly massive event, much, much bigger than the NBA. Check out the stats, from memory it is only just behind FIFA World Cup and Olympics. :D
Is it bigger than Eurocup or Formula 1?
 
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dolina said:
expatinasia said:
dolina said:
As for the sporting events in 2015... you guys made me LOLz at your definition of major sporting events. All the sporting events mentioned are as massive as the NBA. :))

The Rugby World Cup is a truly massive event, much, much bigger than the NBA. Check out the stats, from memory it is only just behind FIFA World Cup and Olympics. :D
Is it bigger than Eurocup or Formula 1?

It only takes place every four years so to compare to F1 would be wrong, as there seems to be one of those every month.

As for Eurocup, no idea. I guess it would depend on who is playing. But you mentioned 2015, and to say that there is no big global event would just be wrong.

Of course, here in Asia it is only really Japan and Korea, as well as Hong Kong that are any good at it.

Here are some stats from the RWC:

The tournament is one of the largest international sporting events in the world, surpassed in scale only by the FIFA World Cup, the Olympics, and the Tour de France. The first World Cup, in 1987, had a cumulative world television audience of 300 million; its successor, the 1991 event in England, reached 1.75 billion. South Africa's 1995 tournament reached 2.67 billion, and the 1999 Welsh-hosted event reached 3 billion. The 2003 tournament had a cumulative world television audience of 3.5 billion, and the final, between Australia and England, became the most watched rugby union match in the history of Australian television. The event was broadcast in 205 countries. The 2007 tournament had a cumulative world television audience of 4 billion.
 
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expatinasia said:
It only takes place every four years so to compare to F1 would be wrong, as there seems to be one of those every month.

As for Eurocup, no idea. I guess it would depend on who is playing. But you mentioned 2015, and to say that there is no big global event would just be wrong.

Of course, here in Asia it is only really Japan and Korea, as well as Hong Kong that are any good at it.

Here are some stats from the RWC:

The tournament is one of the largest international sporting events in the world, surpassed in scale only by the FIFA World Cup, the Olympics, and the Tour de France. The first World Cup, in 1987, had a cumulative world television audience of 300 million; its successor, the 1991 event in England, reached 1.75 billion. South Africa's 1995 tournament reached 2.67 billion, and the 1999 Welsh-hosted event reached 3 billion. The 2003 tournament had a cumulative world television audience of 3.5 billion, and the final, between Australia and England, became the most watched rugby union match in the history of Australian television. The event was broadcast in 205 countries. The 2007 tournament had a cumulative world television audience of 4 billion.

Any which way I hope the 1D X and 5D III replacement arrives sooner than later. My 1D4 and 5D2 are getting long on the tooth.
 
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assassin11 said:
R1-7D said:
assassin11 said:
dolina said:
I dont know of any major sporting event in 2015 so my bet is the new 1-Series body will be out sometime in 2016.


Would the 2015 Pam am games in Toronto be considered a major sporting event?

No.


1Ds Mark III was announced in August 2007, just weeks after the 2007 Pan Am Games in Rio. The Canon EOS-1D X was announced in October 2011 during the Pan AM games in Guadalajara. Just saying.

See bold for your answer.
 
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dolina said:
expatinasia said:
It only takes place every four years so to compare to F1 would be wrong, as there seems to be one of those every month.

As for Eurocup, no idea. I guess it would depend on who is playing. But you mentioned 2015, and to say that there is no big global event would just be wrong.

Of course, here in Asia it is only really Japan and Korea, as well as Hong Kong that are any good at it.

Here are some stats from the RWC:

The tournament is one of the largest international sporting events in the world, surpassed in scale only by the FIFA World Cup, the Olympics, and the Tour de France. The first World Cup, in 1987, had a cumulative world television audience of 300 million; its successor, the 1991 event in England, reached 1.75 billion. South Africa's 1995 tournament reached 2.67 billion, and the 1999 Welsh-hosted event reached 3 billion. The 2003 tournament had a cumulative world television audience of 3.5 billion, and the final, between Australia and England, became the most watched rugby union match in the history of Australian television. The event was broadcast in 205 countries. The 2007 tournament had a cumulative world television audience of 4 billion.

Any which way I hope the 1D X and 5D III replacement arrives sooner than later. My 1D4 and 5D2 are getting long on the tooth.

Then upgrade. Both current models offer a substantial gain. The 5D3 has usable ISO up to 25,600. The 5D2 was at its limit at 6400 in RAW.

2016 is my prediction. Your 5D2 will be practically archaic by then.
 
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R1-7D said:
Then upgrade. Both current models offer a substantial gain. The 5D3 has usable ISO up to 25,600. The 5D2 was at its limit at 6400 in RAW.

2016 is my prediction. Your 5D2 will be practically archaic by then.
I prefer to buy gear within the first calendar year of introduction. I do not enjoy buying gear within the last calendar year of production. Unless it is substantially discounted.

This is my preference. ;)
 
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expatinasia said:
True but this is only speculation. Not even CR2.

If I were you I would get the best on the market now Dolina and enjoy it, rather than speculate as to when a new 1D X may, or may not come out. They are available for around US$ 5,000 now. Great deal.
My timeline for product release is based on my personal assessment. I only use CR & NL to either validate or invalidate my speculations. Most of these rumors are based on online wishful thinking if I may be so bold to say.

I could actually get it lower than $5,000 but you'll have to buy it in South East Asia. Again, I do not mind waiting. I do not derive any income from photography.

On CF cards: I am unloading all my 13 old CF cards and converting the proceeds of the sale to 4 newer, faster and larger ones. My guess is that the transition to CFast will be within 24 months and when it does start the value of older CF cards will quickly drop. When I do transition to bodies using CFast I think I can get better value for four 64GB 800x cards. Another motive for the sale is that I have difficulty keeping track of them. To illustrate I found one CF card that has photos from 2010.

In preparation for the introduction of the 7D Mark II I already have buyers for my 7D. Based on the technlogies in the 1D X, 5D3, 6D, 70D, 700D, 100D, 1200D and even M2 it will be flagship APS-C body with all the technological trimmings one could ever wish for. It will outdo anything Nikon or Sony has in the market.
 
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dolina said:
My timeline for product release is based on my personal assessment. I only use CR & NL to either validate or invalidate my speculations. Most of these rumors are based on online wishful thinking if I may be so bold to say.
Be bold - I'd very much agree!

Remember that what you see here and at NL has had a bit of a 'plausibility filter' (YMMV) applied too ;-)
 
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keithcooper said:
dolina said:
My timeline for product release is based on my personal assessment. I only use CR & NL to either validate or invalidate my speculations. Most of these rumors are based on online wishful thinking if I may be so bold to say.
Be bold - I'd very much agree!

Remember that what you see here and at NL has had a bit of a 'plausibility filter' (YMMV) applied too ;-)
Not to mention conjecture based on past product cycles, sporting events and product releases of rival companies.

I even joined this forum so I can have some fun conversations. BTW Keith no plans in opening your own forum? NL is the grandfather of all Canon & Epson rumors on the web.

For lens rumours I notice most stories are brought about by marketing age, wishful thinking, sporting events and product releases of rival companies.

These are the lenses I look forward being updated within 12 months. Although I doubt these will be updated this soon as they sell too well.

EF 35mm f/1.4L USM
EF 50mm f/1.2L USM
EF 135mm f/2L USM
EF 400mm f/5.6L USM
EF 180mm f/3.5L Macro USM
 
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