EOS 5D Mark III Firmware 1.2.3 Available

[scottkinfw]

Yawn.

 

[Loswr]

Look at the recent 1DX firmware update and compare it with what the 5D3 has got so far.
No comparison.

This is a tiny incremental update - there's no indication that Canon won't give the 5DIII updates the same or similar features once the 1DX update is out.

+1 - the 1D X had f/8 AF from the start, they later gave it to the 5DIII. Auto ISO limits and other features from more recent cameras were added with the v2 firmware for the 7D. The v2 firmware update for the 5DII added the manual audio control that users wanted. If you want them now, there's always the 1D X...and before you blast me for that statement, there was a response from Canon on their forums to the effect that 1D X users who wanted uncompressed HDMI output could just get a 1D C.

 

[Krob78]

I'd still like a RED focus point in AI Servo! :

 

[Harv]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people are never satisfied with what Canon does. If the 5D3 falls short of their expectations, why buy it in the first place?

For crying out loud, the 5D3 is half the price of the 1Dx. If someone wants the 1Dx features, they should reach into their pocket and pony up the funds to buy the 1Dx. It's that simple.

I elected to add the 5D3 to my bag as a second body to my 1D4. I knew what the specifications were when I made the decision to buy it. It performs as advertized. Firmware updates to deal with bugs that show up are appreciated and I'm thankful that the manufacturer offers them up. I don't expect Canon to turn my 5D3 into a 1Dx.

Anyone who purchased a 5D3 knew full well what it's features and limitations were when they made the decision and laid their money down.

If you own the 5D3, which is a great camera, just pick it up and go take some photos.

 

[Krob78]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people are never satisfied with what Canon does. If the 5D3 falls short of their expectations, why buy it in the first place?

For crying out loud, the 5D3 is half the price of the 1Dx. If someone wants the 1Dx features, they should reach into their pocket and pony up the funds to buy the 1Dx. It's that simple.

I elected to add the 5D3 to my bag as a second body to my 1D4. I knew what the specifications were when I made the decision to buy it. It performs as advertized. Firmware updates to deal with bugs that show up are appreciated and I'm thankful that the manufacturer offers them up. I don't expect Canon to turn my 5D3 into a 1Dx.

Anyone who purchased a 5D3 knew full well what it's features and limitations were when they made the decision and laid their money down.

If you own the 5D3, which is a great camera, just pick it up and go take some photos.

I think most of us do... The forum is just that, it's a forum, a place to talk shop, offer opinions, advice, etc.

I certainly knew the feature set of my 5d3 when I made my purchase and have absolutely no regrets, I love it and shoot with it almost everyday. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like the red focus point! I still wish it had it, I still shoot without it and I still love my 5D MkIII...

Checking back through the forum rules you'll be sure to see that nowhere does it mention "No Wishful Thinking comments in threads".

I understand and tend to think on your thought lines, then I thought, well, I have one and love it but I'd sure like the red focus point, especially in AI servo or for low light situations... nothing wrong with wishing.

Gotta go now, my camera is calling!

All the best!

 

[mackguyver]

I'd still like a RED focus point in AI Servo! :

+1 on this, too, but I'm guessing there is a hardware limitation that prevented them from including it in the next-to-last firmware update.

 

[Marsu42]

Oh wait, it did. But the 1DX was neglected and did not get uncompressed HDMI output.

Apart from Nikon putting pressure on Canon, even 5d3 users who don't use Magic Lantern should be grateful since it's harder to withhold a fw feature if the ML devs showed that it's really simple to implement even w/o a Canon fw sdk

5D3 still has a good chance of getting the 1DX stuff.

Why would that be? Canon always had a good (i.e. egoistic) reason for backporting fw features like the f8 af to enable 5d3 users to shoot with expensive Canon tele prime lenses + tc instead of a 7d. The 7d got their 2.0 fw to give it a sales boost, same with the 5d2 back then.

Since the 5d3 is selling fine my guess is that Canon will try to boost their 1dx sales by distinguishing it from the little brother which shoots raw with Magic Lantern - so what's the reason for Canon to further enhance the 5d3 (or 6d) right now?

 

[Loswr]

...so what's the reason for Canon to further enhance the 5d3 (or 6d) right now?

Because people on forums will complain if they don't??

 

[Skirball]

It never ceases to amaze me how many people are never satisfied with what Canon does. If the 5D3 falls short of their expectations, why buy it in the first place?

The 5d3 fanboys get a little antsy in the pantsy when someone mentions a 1Dx. Don't worry, there's an easy fix, just mention how much you love the 6D and their chest puffs out again.

 

[Krob78]

I'd still like a RED focus point in AI Servo! :

+1 on this, too, but I'm guessing there is a hardware limitation that prevented them from including it in the next-to-last firmware update.

Could be but it sure seems like something a FW update could alter... I'd like the center red focus in all cases pretty much, not just AI Servo. It's just that I shoot there so much!

 

[Camerajah]

Well I can report that the pixel vertax grip works fine after 123,update was done without grip,and people this is 1.2.3 update not a 2.0 so don't expect too much

 

[Loswr]

I'd still like a RED focus point in AI Servo! :

+1 on this, too, but I'm guessing there is a hardware limitation that prevented them from including it in the next-to-last firmware update.

Could be but it sure seems like something a FW update could alter... I'd like the center red focus in all cases pretty much, not just AI Servo. It's just that I shoot there so much!

There might be a technical limitation. People who used previous 1-series bodies are used to red AF points. Like other cameras that don't have the transmissive LCD, the AF points are etched into the focus screen, and that makes them easy to illuminate from an angle which avoids significant wide-field reflection. On cameras with a transmissive LCD, there are no etched grooves to 'side-light', but rather the flat surface of the LCD has to be illuminated, and that's a lot less specific. The red light from the illuminator reflects off the surface of the transmissive LCD, and some of it reaches the metering sensor. You can see that here:

That's not a problem for still shooting, but for servo shooting, the near-continuous metering would be impacted by the illumination for the LCD. The solution for the 1D X is intermittent (blinking) illumination of the AF points in servo mode, and although that sounds like it could be implemented on the 5DIII, it's possible that they tweaked the interpretation from the metering sensor to ignore that red light, which might be possible with the RGB metering sensor of the 1D X but not possible with the less distinguishing metering sensor of the 5DIII.

Lots of 'mights' there, and I suppose it's equally likely that Canon simply decided not to add that feature to the 5DIII, just as they decided not to add clean HDMI out to the 1D X.

 

[Krob78]

I'd still like a RED focus point in AI Servo! :

+1 on this, too, but I'm guessing there is a hardware limitation that prevented them from including it in the next-to-last firmware update.

Could be but it sure seems like something a FW update could alter... I'd like the center red focus in all cases pretty much, not just AI Servo. It's just that I shoot there so much!

There might be a technical limitation. People who used previous 1-series bodies are used to red AF points. Like other cameras that don't have the transmissive LCD, the AF points are etched into the focus screen, and that makes them easy to illuminate from an angle which avoids significant wide-field reflection. On cameras with a transmissive LCD, there are no etched grooves to 'side-light', but rather the flat surface of the LCD has to be illuminated, and that's a lot less specific. The red light from the illuminator reflects off the surface of the transmissive LCD, and some of it reaches the metering sensor. You can see that here:

That's not a problem for still shooting, but for servo shooting, the near-continuous metering would be impacted by the illumination for the LCD. The solution for the 1D X is intermittent (blinking) illumination of the AF points in servo mode, and although that sounds like it could be implemented on the 5DIII, it's possible that they tweaked the interpretation from the metering sensor to ignore that red light, which might be possible with the RGB metering sensor of the 1D X but not possible with the less distinguishing metering sensor of the 5DIII.

Lots of 'mights' there, and I suppose it's equally likely that Canon simply decided not to add that feature to the 5DIII, just as they decided not to add clean HDMI out to the 1D X.

+1 and thanks for the explanation and view! Definitely helps me understand that better.

My favourite or favorite part of your comment was:

Lots of 'mights' there, and I suppose it's equally likely that Canon simply decided not to add that feature to the 5DIII, just as they decided not to add clean HDMI out to the 1D X.

Couldn't help but laugh out loud! Thanks again! ;D

 

[Etienne]

For me the worst part of MkIII firmware is that HRD does not produce RAW/TIFF images like it should. Fact that it produces jpeg makes it just automatic bracketing tool

I really do not understand what they where thinking of???

In many situations it would make the Workflow so much faster and easier when you could use HDR results from straight from the camera. And if want to you could still use individual files if camera did not produce what you where looking for...

-Tee-

I assume you mean HDR ... You can set it to save all images. When I do HDR I get the processed HDR in camera plus all of the RAW images.

 

[Loswr]

I assume you mean HDR ... You can set it to save all images. When I do HDR I get the processed HDR in camera plus all of the RAW images.

Yeah, in-camera HDR. Another feature found on the 5DIII (and other models, including my lowly PowerShot S100), but not found on the 1D X.

 

[Krob78]

I assume you mean HDR ... You can set it to save all images. When I do HDR I get the processed HDR in camera plus all of the RAW images.

Yeah, in-camera HDR. Another feature found on the 5DIII (and other models, including my lowly PowerShot S100), but not found on the 1D X.

That wretched Canon... How is it, not to include the 1Dx in these feature sets? I've noticed that they left your hallowed 1Dx without a built in flash too, as even the Rebel series have them... Not very sporting of them at all... I feel your pain, no built in flash or articulating LCD screen on the lowly 5D MkIII either!

Albeit, it's certainly easy to feel slighted by all these features that you're going without on your 1Dx, keep your chin up, it's possible they'll give it a hardware and another firmware update very soon... I'm hoping for your sake, anyway!

 

[wookiee2cu]

If all of the feature requests are possible (the ones the 1DX are getting) maybe MagicLantern will be able to incorporate them... give it time. Plus it's kind of hard to complain about something the camera never had in the first place yet you had no problem buying it.

 

[drmikeinpdx]

Fixes a phenomenon in which the AF microadjustment value may change.*

Anybody know what that is referring to?

 

[glongstaff]

just updated from 1.2.1 and no problems as yet..still to do more testing to make myself happy

 

[josephandrews222]

...I will not be updating firmware without knowing a bit more about whether the update interferes with non-Canon-branded (but chipped) batteries, which work well with the current firmware.