EOS 5D Mark IV Testing Has Begun [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>We’re told test bodies for the EOS 5D Mark IV have made their way to select photographers. The timeline for an announcement is still some time in Q4 of 2015.</p>
<p>While there has been talk about a new DIGIC processor for the EOS-1D X Mark II, it is unknown if the EOS 5D Mark IV will see the rumored DIGIC 7 processor as well. If it doesn’t, one can assume that the EOS-1D X Mark II won’t come soon after the EOS 5D Mark IV and will likely fall into the winter of 2016, with availability coming soon after.</p>
<p>2016 is an Olympic & Euro year, with the summer games being held in August and Euro beginning in June. 2016 is a Photokina year as well, which comes in September.</p>
<p>More to come…</p>
<p> </p>

 

[PureClassA]

Exciting rumor news! But I'm not convinced the 1DX2's imminence is solely dependent upon the Digic 7 being in the 5D4. I would think that the Digic 6 would probably suffice the rumored specs of the 5D4 just fine. If so, why waste a 7 on it? Canon could just as well be sitting on the 7 the same way Intel and other chip makers sit on faster CPUs for incremental releases. I know we can all joke "well it IS Canon..." But I don't think we see this pushed back til after the summer olympics of 2016.

 

[Marsu42]

I would think that the Digic 6 would probably suffice the rumored specs of the 5D4 just fine. If so, why waste a 7 on it?

Poor /me is all confused about those digic numbers, can anyone please explain what's the difference anyway?

Afaik the digic is a composite chip from the usual arm core and some custom hard-wired functions ... so what actual real-world features are connected with a digic 7 that a digic 6 camera cannot have?

 

[Vikmnilu]

Now that I just bought the Mark III

but seriously, got a good deal, first DSLR that I have bought new and it's an amazing camera for the next years! Cannot be happier

Victor

 

[NorbR]

The football fan in me needs to point out that the Euro will actually be held in June and July. So before the Olympics.

Admittedly this doesn't change much ... the Euro certainly has less international impact than the Olympics, so whatever big splash Canon might want to make would still happen in Rio more than in France.

 

[meywd]

I would think that the Digic 6 would probably suffice the rumored specs of the 5D4 just fine. If so, why waste a 7 on it?

Poor /me is all confused about those digic numbers, can anyone please explain what's the difference anyway?

Afaik the digic is a composite chip from the usual arm core and some custom hard-wired functions ... so what actual real-world features are connected with a digic 7 that a digic 6 camera cannot have?

mostly its just a difference in bandwidth/buffer size, and clock speed == more FPS for higher res.

 

[hazitroll]

I would think that the Digic 6 would probably suffice the rumored specs of the 5D4 just fine. If so, why waste a 7 on it?

Poor /me is all confused about those digic numbers, can anyone please explain what's the difference anyway?

Afaik the digic is a composite chip from the usual arm core and some custom hard-wired functions ... so what actual real-world features are connected with a digic 7 that a digic 6 camera cannot have?

As much I know the DIGIC chips handle the noise reduction/JPEG compression, lens correction and other image altering calculations. From one side it is like the upgrade from a core i3 to an i7, but it is not only speed, but the algorithms the use can be more complex.

 

[meywd]

from wikipedia on the DIGIC 6

Introduced in 2013, the DIGIC 6 image processor enables improved low-light performance up to ISO 6400, with reduced noise. In addition, it enables improved AF times and reduced lag over previous models. The improved performance allows for shots at up to 14 fps.

Further advancements attributed to DIGIC 6 can be experienced in movie mode, which records in MP4 format and doubles the frame-rate to 60 fps at 1080p. It also features reduced noise at 30 fps and improved image stabilization.

 

[sanj]

Banana smile. Sold my 5d3 yesterday.

But very confused. To get the 5dr or 5d4???????

No rush, 1dc is there for now. Will evaluate both the 5d bodies carefully for my needs and decide. Nice to have options!

 

[sanj]

When can we expect some specs?

 

[Dylan777]

Feel like a kid in the candy shop every 4-5yrs ;D

1Dx II

1Dx II

1DX II

 

[Marsu42]

From one side it is like the upgrade from a core i3 to an i7, but it is not only speed, but the algorithms the use can be more complex.

I'm not so sure this comparison is valid as afaik (looking at ML development) a lot of functionality is hardwired or even on dedicated chips (like (part of) the phase af system), so a "speed upgrade" of the arm core doesn't really matter for actual features.

Things that - off the top of my hat - that could be implemented in a digic7 upgrade are maybe in the region of x265 compression, 1080p/120fps video, idunno. Otherwise it's just a number which doesn't say anything, esp. not how *large* the difference digic6->7 is or if it's more of a marketing stunt ("look mom, my camera has a digic7!").

 

[pedro]

<p>We’re told test bodies for the EOS 5D Mark IV have made their way to select photographers. The timeline for an announcement is still some time in Q4 of 2015.</p>
<p>While there has been talk about a new DIGIC processor for the EOS-1D X Mark II, it is unknown if the EOS 5D Mark IV will see the rumored DIGIC 7 processor as well. If it doesn’t, one can assume that the EOS-1D X Mark II won’t come soon after the EOS 5D Mark IV and will likely fall into the winter of 2016, with availability coming soon after.</p>
<p>2016 is an Olympic & Euro year, with the summer games being held in August and Euro beginning in June. 2016 is a Photokina year as well, which comes in September.</p>
<p>More to come…</p>
<p> </p>

sure thing, ready for shelves around christmas for early adopters...christmas comes in a little more than seven months...;-) hope it does see the Digic 7 though...
So, will the probable and rumored 5Dc (18 MP) be announced later in Q2 or Q3 2016? Any info about that? Or was it just some CR0-ish wishful thinking?

 

[mtavel]

Dear Mr. Santa Claus,

14+ stops of dynamic range please.

I've been good this year!

-Timmy

P.S.

Oh yeah.... and focus points that I can see in dark scenes. Thanks!

 

[RobPan]

Good news for me! In January my 5d3 was stolen, but fortunately it was insured. Now I'm waiting for the 5D4. I loved the 5D3, but as I was photographing mostly in Indonesia and often in the evening, the lighting left much to be desired. Even the 5D3 sometimes could not cope with the low light levels. E.g. during dance rehearsals at the Mangkunegaran Palace. Only during performances we had enough light. Photographing in peoples homes was difficult as well. Many people have no more than a maximum of 450 Watt or 900 Watt (for all appliances added up), barely enough for a fridge and a water pump. Energy saving lamps are expensive. So even today lighting is often insufficient. Yes, better than in the days people used oil lamps (not so very long ago), but still... I very much welcome the improvement in (very) high-ISO performance of the 5D4 which has been promised. No, I prefer not to use flash.

Kind regards, R.

 

[Loswr]

Dear Mr. Santa Claus,
14+ stops of dynamic range please.
I've been good this year!
-Timmy
P.S.
Oh yeah.... and focus points that I can see in dark scenes. Thanks!

Hopefully you're not lying about being good, Timmy, or else you'll get coal Nikon in your stocking.

Ho ho ho!

 

[awinphoto]

Great, another camera begging to take my money with it... My 5d3 is still proving to be a workhorse... i dont see me needing to replace that until probably later next year, but who knows, given the specs and my gas, who knows what is to come... how much does a kidney run on the black market now-a-days?

 

[gsealy]

It all depends on the specs. The 5DIII is a great camera and is highly versatile. A lot of people are not going to ditch it unless the 5DIV gives them a reason to do so. I am one of them.

Two trends we are seeing from Canon:
1.) They are segmenting the market by providing narrowly featured cameras.
2.) They are following a more evolutionary strategy than a revolutionary strategy.

So given 1 and 2, it seems as though we will see modest improvements in MP, ISO, DR, and processor. We will see modest improvement in HD video, but not 4K. Just a guess. We will see.

 

[Loswr]

They are following a more evolutionary strategy than a revolutionary strategy.

The last revolution was film -> digital. You could argue that dSLR -> MILC is a revolution...but that's still ongoing, and sometimes the revolutionaries lose the war.

 

[keithfullermusic]

Poor /me is all confused about those digic numbers, can anyone please explain what's the difference anyway?

Afaik the digic is a composite chip from the usual arm core and some custom hard-wired functions ... so what actual real-world features are connected with a digic 7 that a digic 6 camera cannot have?

The Digic 6 has a 6 after it, and the Digic 7 has a 7 after it. 7 is bigger than 6, so it means that it's better and 6 is now worthless.