EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>Sensor delays


</strong>A new sensor line will appear in 2013 that will be seen across the entire APS-C lineup. Expect to see the first announcements in the first half of 2013.</p>
<p>The delays in developing the sensor was apparently a big reason for the big firmware update for the 7D. It’s also suggested that there may not be a 7D/60D amalgamation in the future. The 7D Mark II will not be an APS-H camera as some have wished/rumored.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_3d.html" target="_blank">NL</a>]</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[DB]

Does that mean there will be no 70D (am I reading this correctly), but there will be a 7D2 with the same shared sensor as a new 700D/T5i?

edit: cannot see Canon launching a 70D and 700D in the same season

 

[Chosenbydestiny]

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<strong>Sensor delays



</strong>A new sensor line will appear in 2013 that will be seen across the entire APS-C lineup. Expect to see the first announcements in the first half of 2013.</p>
<p>The delays in developing the sensor was apparently a big reason for the big firmware update for the 7D. It’s also suggested that there may not be a 7D/60D amalgamation in the future. The 7D Mark II will not be an APS-H camera as some have wished/rumored.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_3d.html\" target=\"_blank\">NL</a>]</p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>

A new sensor is very good news. However, I still doubt anyone will ever be happy in this forum AKA Canon's unofficial complaint box.

 

[KitsVancouver]

I wonder if it will make its way into the EOS M line.

 

[weixing]

Hi,

Does that mean there will be no 70D (am I reading this correctly), but there will be a 7D2 with the same shared sensor as a new 700D/T5i?

edit: cannot see Canon launching a 70D and 700D in the same season

It's said 7DII, 70D & 700D... Will be very interesting if they launch 3 DSLR with the number 7 in one event (I doubt Canon will do that)... ha ha ha 8)

Have a nice day.

 

[Lee Jay]

This sounds like great news to me.

Canon - pay attention.

7DII - 5DIII/1DX based AF system, WITH f/8 AF sensors at the center.
Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.

Give me that (and good sensor performance, obviously), and I might be in for BOTH a 7DII and a 5DIII.

Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW). Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

 

[Canon-F1]

hoped to see a new sensor earlier.... at least make it worth the wait this time.

 

[Drizzt321]

This sounds like great news to me.

Canon - pay attention.

7DII - 5DIII/1DX based AF system, WITH f/8 AF sensors at the center.
Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.

Give me that (and good sensor performance, obviously), and I might be in for BOTH a 7DII and a 5DIII.

Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW). Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

It would be nice for them to use DNG, however I suspect not. I mean, after all, it drives people to use their DPP, at least for a little while after a new camera release.

Beyond that, allowing up to a 1:1 video crop is quite an interesting concept, although matters less to me since I mostly just do stills. However, if you could do a crop in camera (more to save space while still maintaining 1:1 pixels used/pixels recorded), that could be really interesting.

 

[simonxu11]

I wonder if it will make its way into the EOS M line.

I really hope so, but I still don't think canon is putting much effort on the eos m line as long as they can dominant the APSC DSLR market.

This first eos m just tells us that canon is in this market now and they will not introduce anything smaller than APSC size. The delays in developing the sensor may also one of the reasons why they just released a very entry level at the beginning instead of aiming for more advanced market.

At least we all know now that canon do realise they have some catch up work to do in this area and I hope they don't just upgrade the body without improving the sensor then put a high price tag on it.

 

[brad-man]

Announcements in the first half of 2013. Delivery in 2014. Can someone give me a wake up call?

 

[Lee Jay]

Beyond that, allowing up to a 1:1 video crop is quite an interesting concept, although matters less to me since I mostly just do stills. However, if you could do a crop in camera (more to save space while still maintaining 1:1 pixels used/pixels recorded), that could be really interesting.

Realize the T2i and 60D have this already for 640x480 mode, and the T3i has it for 1920x1080 mode.

 

[unfocused]

I love it when a plan comes together.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8175.msg149586#msg149586

Okay, I admit I was wrong about some of the features of the 6D. No touch screen, no flip screen and it does have micro-focus adjustment. You can take some deductions from my score for those, but if the 46 mp camera emerges, I want extra points for calling that one.

 

[DB]

Okay, I admit I was wrong about some of the features of the 6D. No touch screen, no flip screen and it does have micro-focus adjustment. You can take some deductions from my score for those, but if the 46 mp camera emerges, I want extra points for calling that one.

It seems that both touch screen & swivel screens were a fad. According to Canon you don't need either with WiFi, plus with the German 6D video showing the EOS Utility now built-in to WLAN mode on the 6D, even custom presets now are no longer limited (after all if you're wirelessly using EOS Utility with MacBook or Laptop/iPad, you can upload new C1/C2/C3 settings from your computer 'on-the-fly' without touching your DSLR on it's tripod).

We can probably assume that all new EOS models will have WiFi as standard, although with wireless EOS Utility now a core feature on the 6D, it must not resonate too well with those WiFi-less 5D3's and 1DX's.

 

[DzPhotography]

Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.
...
Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW). Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

I do not. All you videots ... stop your whining over bloody video features in bloody stills cameras, especially in DSLRS. Get it into your head, that a DSRL is the single worst possible videocam .. by its very nature. Now go away. Leave us in peace. Do yourself a favour and buy a decent camcorder from Canon or from Sony ... loaded with all the video crap on earth. Zebra stripes, all sorts of video output options, audio levels, 99 microphones, and anything more. Today these camcorders even come cheaper than a 5D III ... 3000 USD for a Sony VEX Full Frame HD camcorder ... just buy it and vanish from the stills photography sections of forums.

Thank you ;D

 

[onkel_wart]

I hope that the shutter on my 50D will keep on running long enough for a decent replacement...

 

[kapanak]

Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.
...
Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW). Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

I do not. All you videots ... stop your whining over bloody video features in bloody stills cameras, especially in DSLRS. Get it into your head, that a DSRL is the single worst possible videocam .. by its very nature. Now go away. Leave us in peace. Do yourself a favour and buy a decent camcorder from Canon or from Sony ... loaded with all the video crap on earth. Zebra stripes, all sorts of video output options, audio levels, 99 microphones, and anything more. Today these camcorders even come cheaper than a 5D III ... 3000 USD for a Sony VEX Full Frame HD camcorder ... just buy it and vanish from the stills photography sections of forums.

Bitter much? If you crave pure stills DSLR, go Medium Format. I hear they are still doing only photographs. Heck, some of them don't even have Live View. I am sure they will welcome you (and your wallet) warmly.

On the other hand, 35mm FF and below DSLRs will have video. It is a reality. Nobody forces you to use it, but then nobody will make you a custom DSLR without an immense amount of money escaping your wallet first.

Too bad, eh?

 

[sagittariansrock]

new sensor line will appear in 2013 that will be seen across the entire APS-C lineup. Expect to see the first announcements in the first half of 2013.

If this is true, then that's very good news. Canon built an excellent APS-C camera, and while we are all happy shooting with it- they do ample R&D to bring out a better sensor and cover the only possible flaw in the camera. The time span is sufficient for us to get money's worth out of the camera as well (not talking about Pros- who possibly would do that in a month?). Dual CF cards will be nice, though. Me likey!

 

[nonac]

Should hit shelves about 2015. The one thing I hate about Canon is that they make an announcement and then it is months before the product is available. Getting tired of that. Why don't you wait until you are only a week or two away from release before making the announcement?

 

[Etienne]

Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.
...
Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW). Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

I do not. All you videots ... stop your whining over bloody video features in bloody stills cameras, especially in DSLRS. Get it into your head, that a DSRL is the single worst possible videocam .. by its very nature. Now go away. Leave us in peace. Do yourself a favour and buy a decent camcorder from Canon or from Sony ... loaded with all the video crap on earth. Zebra stripes, all sorts of video output options, audio levels, 99 microphones, and anything more. Today these camcorders even come cheaper than a 5D III ... 3000 USD for a Sony VEX Full Frame HD camcorder ... just buy it and vanish from the stills photography sections of forums.

Another photog elitist. That's odd when top pro's are concluding that photo-journalists are on the way out and EVERY photographer needs to double up with video, which is the future.

Some people will opt out and be left behind.

 

[Lee Jay]

Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.
...
Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW). Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

I do not. All you videots ... stop your whining over bloody video features in bloody stills cameras, especially in DSLRS. Get it into your head, that a DSRL is the single worst possible videocam .. by its very nature. Now go away. Leave us in peace. Do yourself a favour and buy a decent camcorder from Canon or from Sony ... loaded with all the video crap on earth. Zebra stripes, all sorts of video output options, audio levels, 99 microphones, and anything more. Today these camcorders even come cheaper than a 5D III ... 3000 USD for a Sony VEX Full Frame HD camcorder ... just buy it and vanish from the stills photography sections of forums.

Sure...show me a nice video camera with interchangeable lenses and an APS-c sized sensor, that occupies zero space so that I don't have to carry it along side my dSLR.