Everything We’ve Been Told About The Canon EOS R7 Mark II
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Birds, Whales, any distant wildlife are my uses. The 200-800 is glued to my R7. Seems like a good camera for private investigators to get more reach with less obvious lenses. It works very well with the 100-400 and that is an innocuous lens. Lots of folks out there who use cameras that camera geeks inhabiting forums (like us) have no knowledge of (but Canon does).
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Wildlife, Aviation - airshows. Would be a perfect partner for a R5 with short to medium lenses and long lenses on an R7. As was the legendary combination of the 5Diii and 7Dii.
For my part I really hope canon return to the spirit of the 7Dii - a full R5ii Body, Including Card Combination, same controls layout, top display, stacked BSI sensor but with Mechanical shutter and 30Mpix ish resolution.
That would be the point where I felt it worth retiring the 7Dii and replacing the last of the longer EF glass.
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Somebody who wants to use their 70-200 f/2.8 instead of buying a 100-300 f/2.8
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In terms of field of view, it will be equivalent to 112-320 on FF. But, in terms of of depth of field (and bokeh) and signal noise over the image, it's equivalent to f/4.5 on FF. There's no free ride, it would need to be f/1.8 on APS-C to give the same depth of field and light gathering over the whole image to equal an f/2.8 on FF.
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Are there any blind tests indicating what percentage of viewers care or even notice?
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If you don't care or don't notice then it indeed makes no difference. And, in terms of percentages, absolutely by far the overwhelming number of viewers are viewing images from phones or low resolution websites who wouldn't even know what an APS-C is or worry about 70-200/2.8 vs 100-300/2.8 and just want an adequate photo. However, it is a fact that sensor size is important for signal to noise, depth of field and resolution, and that matters to those who want to know the limitations of their gear and what is the most suitable for them.
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That's the dichotomy between sensor sizes/formats. As a bird photographer (hobbyist), I want more reach and the APS-C camera gives me that, especially with the high pixel density of the R7. But, there's a tradeoff in terms of DOF and noise. It's usually acceptable, though those darker forest shots do bump up against the inherent noise floor of the smaller sensor. My R5 would be superior in those situations, but I'm focal length (and size) limited in those situations.
For me, the high pixel density is worth the tradeoff in that respect. It'd be nice to gain another stop or so of dynamic range, and it'd be nice to have a substantial fleet of large, heavy, expensive lenses to give me the type of photography I enjoy with my R7 but with my R5. That extra stop of usable ISO would help a lot. But alas, I'm not willing to spend tens of thousands on a set of lenses, nor am I willing to walk around with the heavy lenses for long periods of time.
I had an EF 500/4 II, which was a spectacular lens. Unbeatable sharpness, even with a teleconverter. But I rarely used it because for long time walkabout, it was just not practical.
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7D > 7D2: 5 years
7D2 > R7: 7.5+ years
If the R72 is out in the next 6 months it will have been less than 4 years.
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Yeah, of course it would be the 1st non stacked apsc with readout speed that fast. And that cheap. Like the first C50 rumors. We can roll our eyes. Not a camera that the masses are inclined to purchase just for everyday consumer photography and justifying a stacked or partial stacked sensor.
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Yeah I know. The image processing is more than just readout. Readout----> processing--------> write to disk. Each and every cycle. The bottleneck is "write to disk". That's why there is a "Busy" indicator. And that generates lots of heat. Heat dissipation is the prime consideration when dealing with fast readout speeds. Primarily right there at the card. One can see it with a thermal imaging device. You see Nikon had to move its drives to the bottom and even had to eliminate a full SD drive because of heat management. An image processing cycle doesn't complete until "Write to Disk" is complete. Even when buffering.
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The sensor readout and writing to a card are independent steps. The reason people want a faster readout speed is to reduce rolling shutter. That can be accomplished even with a slow card speed and tiny buffer.
You realize the R5II and R3 can be operated with just an SD card if you want, right? You lose some video functions and the buffer takes longer to empty, but it does work.
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Well, street photography is a niche, too. some niches are bigger than others. 7D II is in the same niche and there are a bunch of them on eBay at the moment, so Canon sold quite a few.
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That is not super niche, a common hobbyist activity.
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Birding is a massive hobby. Over 35% of the USA is actively into birding. Most obviously are just doing feeders, planting native plants, listening or using binos but when you have a pool of over 100million people that gives you a lot of people buying cameras.
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The 7Dii took an unusually long time to come along. I joined CR in 2012 on searching for rumours when it would be released, and it took another 2 years. They did do a massive firmware update on the 7D to refresh it.
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I love where the joystick and wheel is on the R7. I rarely used where it was on older cameras. Where it is on the R7 is exactly where my thumb sits so perfect location! I don't understand why so many didn't learn by using it to see its in the perfect spot.
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