Expect Higher End Products at CP+ in February

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<p>I have received a lot of emails, tweets, and Facebook messages about the lacklustre announcements from Canon today. Canon generally doesn’t make a big splash at CES, which is a very broad consumer electronics show. You get lost in TV’s, software, phones and every other gadget one can think of.</p>
<p>I’d expect we’re going to see higher end products announced for <a href="http://www.cpplus.jp/en/" target="_blank">CP+ in Japan</a>, which runs from February 12, 2015 until February 15, 2015. Announcements for different types of products may trickle out in the weeks prior to the show.</p>
<p><strong>What could we expect for CP+?

</strong>I expect we’re going to see the rumoured/confirmed large zoom, large sensor PowerShot. <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/01/new-powershots-for-ces-next-week-cr1/" target="_blank">The specs from the other day</a> could be this camera.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/11/did-canon-leak-the-ef-11-24mm-f4l/" target="_blank">EF 11-24 f/4L</a> could also make an appearance, this lens has been all but confirmed. We will probably see a new Rebel in the next month or two, so that could appear for CP+.</p>
<p>As for the high megapixel camera? This could be a show we get at least a development announcement as I do expect an announcement for this camera to come before NAB in April.</p>
<p>More to come….</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
 
I don't understand the motivation to bring out waves after waves of ho hum P&S every year or half. This only desensitizes your customer to ignore anything you announce in the future.

Time to stop paying attention to those manufactures for 6 months, see ya...
 
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Canon Rumors said:
This could be a show we get at least a development announcement as I do expect an announcement for this camera to come before NAB in April.

I'm always hearing about these possible dev announcements when expected/rumored products are delayed - but does Canon actually do these?

I imagine they've got burned by the 1dx (and other) product delays and now only announce something if they've finished "developing" it and are sure it'll be ready for prime time after a few cosmetic tweaks?

BozillaNZ said:
I don't understand the motivation to bring out waves after waves of ho hum P&S every year or half.

That's customer's expectations for you - if they see "p&s model a" and "p&s model b" in a brick'n mortar or online shop next to each other, they'll take the newer one expecting it'll have "better", more up to date tech.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
<p>I have received a lot of emails, tweets, and Facebook messages about the lacklustre announcements from Canon today. Canon generally doesn’t make a big splash at CES, which is a very broad consumer electronics show. You get lost in TV’s, software, phones and every other gadget one can think of.</p>
<p>I’d expect we’re going to see higher end products announced for <a href="http://www.cpplus.jp/en/" target="_blank">CP+ in Japan</a>, which runs from February 12, 2015 until February 15, 2015. Announcements for different types of products may trickle out in the weeks prior to the show.</p>
<p><strong>What could we expect for CP+?


</strong>I expect we’re going to see the rumoured/confirmed large zoom, large sensor PowerShot. <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/01/new-powershots-for-ces-next-week-cr1/" target="_blank">The specs from the other day</a> could be this camera.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/11/did-canon-leak-the-ef-11-24mm-f4l/" target="_blank">EF 11-24 f/4L</a> could also make an appearance, this lens has been all but confirmed. We will probably see a new Rebel in the next month or two, so that could appear for CP+.</p>
<p>As for the high megapixel camera? This could be a show we get at least a development announcement as I do expect an announcement for this camera to come before NAB in April.</p>
<p>More to come….</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

Lacklustre? You're being too polite. As I read the news, I muttered garbage.
 
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BozillaNZ said:
I don't understand the motivation to bring out waves after waves of ho hum P&S every year or half. This only desensitizes your customer to ignore anything you announce in the future.

Time to stop paying attention to those manufactures for 6 months, see ya...
I'd think those waves of P&S are an attempt to stave off the low end juggernaut that phones have become.
I'd also think Canon might take the hint, bring out a camera that makes phone calls, surfs the web and runs apps, but hey, what do I know. Er, did Samsung try that already?
 
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tolusina said:
BozillaNZ said:
I don't understand the motivation to bring out waves after waves of ho hum P&S every year or half. This only desensitizes your customer to ignore anything you announce in the future.

Time to stop paying attention to those manufactures for 6 months, see ya...
I'd think those waves of P&S are an attempt to stave off the low end juggernaut that phones have become.
I'd also think Canon might take the hint, bring out a camera that makes phone calls, surfs the web and runs apps, but hey, what do I know. Er, did Samsung try that already?

Panasonic did at Photokina.

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/cameras-camcorders/lumix-digital-cameras---point-and-shoot/compact-cameras/dmc-cm1.html
 
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CES is about consumer entertainment....I have come to the conclusion that Canon have no interest in either the consumer or entertainment at all. Their attitude the last few years is baffling. They are the Nero of the imaging world I think.

CES is usually when they release their consumer video options, with NAB for the professional options. Obviously they have nothing for the consumer in 2015 on the video front, and since their cameras generally have inferior video compared to their camcorders, don't expect anything at CP+ either. The next rebel will be below the 7D2, which means that it will be ho-hum time again. It won't be the camera to take current T5i users to the next level since there is not that much space between the T5i and 7D2 outside of build quality anyway.
 
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Tugela said:
They are the Nero of the imaging world I think.

You're saying that like Nero, Canon is about to be redeemed because in fact most actions are sensible - but the reputation is intentionally hampered by 3rd parties baring a grudge? And the Sonikon competition needs a scarecrow to make their gadgets appear innovative, just like the early Christian church characterized Nero as the antichrist because it made them appear as heroic martyrs?
 
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Tugela said:
CES is usually when they release their consumer video options, with NAB for the professional options. Obviously they have nothing for the consumer in 2015 on the video front...

Yes, obviously... ::)

http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/01/canon-updates-compact-powerful-vixia-hf-r-series-camcorders/

(Please note I'm not commenting on the quality/advancement of the offerings, just pointing out they do have something new. Personally I have a Vixia HF M41 from 2011, it's very good and I've seen nothing more recent that tempts me to upgrade.)
 
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tolusina said:
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Looks pretty slick it does.
I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to call a 1" sensor "Pro Sized" though.
Darn, CM1 doesn't on Panasonic's US site, that's good though, another cool thing I can't be tempted by, GAS is safe for now.

It'll be in the USA by the summertime.... Not sure about other markets in North America.
 
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Am I the only one reading this site/forum with a gross income under $18k/year? For me to invest in something like a 5D3, even just a body, would be a significant chunk'o'change. The powershots are easily in my price range, although they aren't specifically the type of camera I'm looking at.

I'm eagerly looking forward to the rumored 1-inch "grote zoom" camera. I do hope it has a longer lens (even if it's not quite as fast), though. I plan to use it for, among other things, recording church music, and I'll want to be able to zoom from capturing an entire 200-300-member (or so) choir to zeroing in on an individual singer's face, even if it involves using a "lossless" digital zoom/crop on-the-fly in video mode cause the optical lens doesn't go far enough. From my calculations, I think I could do it with the Panasonic FZ1000, if it has that function while recording video (I know it can in stills). Also I'd prefer this camera be no more expensive than that one. I know the camera I'm replacing, the Canon SX10 IS, has enough range optically (without digital zoom) to do it, or at least close.

You may think "why is he looking at a thousand dollar camera with such a low income?" Well, I don't upgrade with each new generation. I make my equipment last as long as possible, even if parts of it break. And, I try to save up for it so that when it's time to replace the camera, I can pay cash for it. My current camera is the SX10 IS (for a while now the settings/clock battery has been dead so I have to reset the clock every time I turn it on), previously it was the S1 IS (it had the sensor issue which I had repaired due to the recall, but eventually it died too), and before that I had the A80 and A70 (which didn't last as long, and one of them got dropped & broke/jammed the lens).
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Tugela said:
CES is usually when they release their consumer video options, with NAB for the professional options. Obviously they have nothing for the consumer in 2015 on the video front...

Yes, obviously... ::)

http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/01/canon-updates-compact-powerful-vixia-hf-r-series-camcorders/

(Please note I'm not commenting on the quality/advancement of the offerings, just pointing out they do have something new. Personally I have a Vixia HF M41 from 2011, it's very good and I've seen nothing more recent that tempts me to upgrade.)

They are not "new". The R60/62 are just repackaged versions of last years R50/52, which in turn were repackaged versions of the previous years R40/42. The year before that you had the R30/32, again the same camera but with the older DIGiC DVIII processor (it did not support 1080p60). The image quality is not substantially different (I have prosumer versions of the cameras with those processors, so I know that for a fact). In the intervening years Canon's competitors have made substantial improvements to IQ in their consumer camera equivalents. Canon just gives us the same old same old however. Apparently in that market the average consumer does not know any better, so they just buy the mark on the side of the camera.
 
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