Features seen in the past and absent today

[nicku]

I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

 

[climber]

+ Eye-controlled Auto-Focus

Don't know how useful was that, but probably with today technology it could be even more sophisticated.

 

[Sporgon]

I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.

 

[rs]

I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.

The 1D was an APS-H body with an electronic shutter.

 

[wickidwombat]

3x video cropping zoom on 600D which since disappeared although my EOS-M box had the ikon for it on but a white sticker over the icon

 

[nicku]

I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.

The 1D was an APS-H body with an electronic shutter.

Being an APS-H sensor is not the case. 1d2 , 1d3 , 1d4 are APS-H... and no similar features

 

[DigiAngel]

there was a red eye reduction on my old canon 20D, which worked perfectly with the speedlite 420EX.

that very usefull function was gone from the 5D2 onwards, i wonder why.

 

[tayassu]

+ Eye-controlled Auto-Focus

Don't know how useful was that, but probably with today technology it could be even more sophisticated.

I loved that, tried it out on the EOS 50E, it was great. It only appeared in like 3 bodys, I believe it was too expensive... :-\

 

[Sporgon]

I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.

The 1D was an APS-H body with an electronic shutter.

Quick bit of research; also used CCD rather than CMOS which allowed the use of an electronic shutter. So as CMOS replaced CDD those features were lost.

 

[rs]

I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.

The 1D was an APS-H body with an electronic shutter.

Quick bit of research; also used CCD rather than CMOS which allowed the use of an electronic shutter. So as CMOS replaced CDD those features were lost.

Yeah, Nikon had some CCD cameras with fast sync speeds, such as the 1/500th D40.

 

[suburbia]

+ Eye-controlled Auto-Focus

Don't know how useful was that, but probably with today technology it could be even more sophisticated.

I loved that, tried it out on the EOS 50E, it was great. It only appeared in like 3 bodys, I believe it was too expensive... :-\

Yes i loved it both on my 50E and EOS 3. I feel my compositions were much better then as often you don't get a chance to move the focus point or doing the traditional focus then recompose.

Eye controlled focus always appears in Canon questionaires about desired future feature sets

 

[Tanispyre]

I love the eye control focus on my Elan 7E, sure it only has 7 focus points, but after calibration it was very accurate for me. I still use it as my primary film camera. Some of the newer cameras ability to select groups of focus points I think would match very well with eye control focus.

 

[Busted Knuckles]

What about the "the wave" shutter. using the proximity sensor on the t2i to trigger the shutter

how about a proximity sensor at all :0

internal vf shutter to block light from the optical view finder

Sensor zoom in movie mode - jumping from full frame to just 1920x1080 pixels

There are tons of features magic lantern that Canon should bake into its firmware

 

[mb66energy]

Dedicated aperture ring on lens (or body*)
Dedicated exp. time and ISO on body

... on a Canon EF or/and EF-M body

*really liked the idea in S95 and would like to see it on ALL Canon cameras.

 

[Hannes]

What about the "the wave" shutter. using the proximity sensor on the t2i to trigger the shutter

how about a proximity sensor at all :0

internal vf shutter to block light from the optical view finder

Sensor zoom in movie mode - jumping from full frame to just 1920x1080 pixels

There are tons of features magic lantern that Canon should bake into its firmware

The vf shutter Is alive and kicking but only on 1 series bodies

 

[lo lite]

I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I wonder why they left out the DEP mode on the recent cameras. Not that I used it that often when I was still using my EOS 33 but it was convenient to have from time to time.

For those who don't know what I am talking about:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/dep.shtml
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3193312

 

[AvTvM]

ranked in order of usefulness/desirability to me:

* Exe Control AF -> v2 ... improved to today's standards ... in conjunction with a top notch AF-system and a class-leading EVF on a FF mirrorless cam ... would be willing to pay up to $/€ 500 extra for this feature

* 1/500 or shorter X-sync ... implemented by means of a fully electronic shutter ... would only pay a little extra for it, since it is cheaper than mech shutter unit

* freely assignable Multi-Function ring around mount base on camera body ... default = aperture setting. As in Powershot S95/100 etc. Would be willing to pay up to €/$ 50 extra, since a hardware change is involved.

* Fully functional Auto-ISO including EV +/- compensation in "M" ... in any Canon EOS. I'd be willing to pay up to €/$ 25 extra, since no research / only a minor firmware change is needed

* A-DEP mode -> automatic depth of field. I would want the 3-step method [as implemented e.g. in EOS 3], not the latter 1-step procedure [as e.g. in 40D, 50D]. I'd be willing to pay up to 25 €/$ extra for that feature, since it reuqires a minor firmware change only. http://www.vad1.com/photo/autodof.html

* Focus trap -> automatic shutter release, as soon a moving object gets into [pre-set] focus. To my knowledge, this feature was never implemented in a Canon EOS - but on some/many Nikon DSLRs. I'd be willing to pay up to 25 €/$ extra since it requires only a minor firmware change only.

... lots of money to be made for Canon, if they build me a body with the desired features. Or even better ... Canon could leave out all video recording capability/features [except live view feed] on my camera and give me the above listed features instead, at no extra charge. 8)

 

[mackguyver]

ranked in order of usefulness/desirability to me:

* Exe Control AF -> v2 ... improved to today's standards ... in conjunction with a top notch AF-system and a class-leading EVF on a FF mirrorless cam ... would be willing to pay up to $/€ 500 extra for this feature

* 1/500 or shorter X-sync ... implemented by means of a fully electronic shutter ... would only pay a little extra for it, since it is cheaper than mech shutter unit

* freely assignable Multi-Function ring around mount base on camera body ... default = aperture setting. As in Powershot S95/100 etc. Would be willing to pay up to €/$ 50 extra, since a hardware change is involved.

* Fully functional Auto-ISO including EV +/- compensation in "M" ... in any Canon EOS. I'd be willing to pay up to €/$ 25 extra, since no research / only a minor firmware change is needed

* A-DEP mode -> automatic depth of field. I would want the 3-step method [as implemented e.g. in EOS 3], not the latter 1-step procedure [as e.g. in 40D, 50D]. I'd be willing to pay up to 25 €/$ extra for that feature, since it reuqires a minor firmware change only. http://www.vad1.com/photo/autodof.html

* Focus trap -> automatic shutter release, as soon a moving object gets into [pre-set] focus. To my knowledge, this feature was never implemented in a Canon EOS - but on some/many Nikon DSLRs. I'd be willing to pay up to 25 €/$ extra since it requires only a minor firmware change only.

... lots of money to be made for Canon, if they build me a body with the desired features. Or even better ... Canon could leave out all video recording capability/features [except live view feed] on my camera and give me the above listed features instead, at no extra charge. 8)

I think a faster sync would be nice, but short of leaf shutters & CMOS, not too practical. A shutter of 1/16,000 would be nice, too, but short of using f/1.2 lenses wide open in the sun, 1/8000 is usually enough, but it would be nice to avoid ND filters for that kind of work. The A-DEP mode seems pointless to me and I always found that it would almost always choose between f/11 and f/22 no matter the subject.

Fully functional Auto-ISO including EV +/- compensation in "M" is awesome on the 1D X and probably one of my favorite and most used features. Canon definitely needs to roll this out to the other models.

The other thing I'd love is a 1D model in standard size, like the 1V. I like the built in grip of the 1D__ but it would be nice to have a choice. All of the little things that the 1D series offers over the 5D series (like tougher build, af-pt linked spot, multi-pt spot, viewfinder shutter, etc.) would be great to have in a smaller body as well.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

+ Eye-controlled Auto-Focus

Don't know how useful was that, but probably with today technology it could be even more sophisticated.

It was nice on my Canon A2E and I was rather impressed at how well it worked. But then the A2E had only 5 focus points.

But perhaps Canon could looking to controlling something else other than focus with the same (upgraded) technology?

 

[Tanispyre]

Another feature that I think was better implemented in the past is the depth of field mode. On my old film camera, to use the auto depth of field mode, you focused on your first point, then focused on a second point, the the camera automatically set both the focus distance and the aperture to get both points in focus. It worked really well, and I never really had problems with it. The newest implementation just tries to get every point under a focus point in focus and it rarely gives the perspective I want.