First Image of the EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II Lens

Mt Spokane Photography said:
PureClassA said:
I just look at the 100-400 now that is ages old and $1600. While of course there will be a new premium on the new version....I'm not seeing Canon go up 40% - 100%. Original 7D $1500. New 7D2 $1800. 20% premium. So I'm guessing $1999-$2200 (high side being where the 70-200 is now) I think making these same priced where one gets you constant aperture while the other gets you longer focal range is a good trade.

I suspect your prices are wishful thinking.

Take a look at prices for the 1+ year old Nikon 80-400mm lens, and then add $300.

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-80-400mm-4-5-5-6G-NIKKOR-Digital/dp/B00BOZ1Y46/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415419938&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+80-400mm

I hope, you will be wrong. 2900€ for this lens would be to much. I hope to see it around 2000€.
The new Sigma Sport is much heavier, but its 600mm @ 6.3 is an serious opponent. You get 20mm more focal lenght with an better aperture and you can use theoretically all your AF points. So, why buy an 400mm lens, where you need to have to fetch an extender too and then use just your F8 capable center AF point (maybe some more) and your lens is 800€ more expensive than the Sigma?
 
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Hi,
Hope the "Zoom touch adjustment ring" is a tension ring that can use to lock the lens at any focal length... If that so and the lens is very sharp, I might consider sell both my EF 400mm 5.6L and Tarmon 150-600mm to get this one.

Have a nice day.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
PureClassA said:
I just look at the 100-400 now that is ages old and $1600. While of course there will be a new premium on the new version....I'm not seeing Canon go up 40% - 100%. Original 7D $1500. New 7D2 $1800. 20% premium. So I'm guessing $1999-$2200 (high side being where the 70-200 is now) I think making these same priced where one gets you constant aperture while the other gets you longer focal range is a good trade.

I suspect your prices are wishful thinking.

Take a look at prices for the 1+ year old Nikon 80-400mm lens, and then add $300.



http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-80-400mm-4-5-5-6G-NIKKOR-Digital/dp/B00BOZ1Y46/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415419938&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+80-400mm

Your figuring would be correct a few years ago but now we have the Tamron 160-600 (which BTW is very good up to 500mm) and two Sigmas arriving before the Canon.

No, Canon will have to factor down their pricing expectations on this one for sales to get some early traction.
 
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Plainsman said:
Your figuring would be correct a few years ago but now we have the Tamron 160-600 (which BTW is very good up to 500mm) and two Sigmas arriving before the Canon.

No, Canon will have to factor down their pricing expectations on this one for sales to get some early traction.

That would explain why Nikon dropped the price on their 80-400. Except they didn't.
 
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heptagon said:
LetTheRightLensIn said:
Lee Jay said:
I'd be interested to see a comparison when these are out.

100-400L II at 400mm and f/5.6 upresed 50% compared to Tamron 150-600 at 600mm and f/6.3.
100-400L II + 1.4x TC III at 560mm and f/8 compared to Tamron 150-600 at 600mm and f/8.

My prediction as that both would be a near tie, except the Canon will have less CA and faster focusing on the first test.

my prediction is that the first comparison would put the tamron far ahead for total detail, 200mm is an insane amount to make up for, the tamron would have to pale even compared to a coke bottle for that to be true

now in the second case maybe it would be about a tie???? who knows or even better?

Results are mixed, see for yourself:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=113&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=10&API=2&LensComp=929&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=5&APIComp=2

The Tamron loses a lot of quality from 500mm to 600mm.

1. that's comparing the current 100-400L not the new one, which will likely be noticeably sharper at 400mm (although it remains to be seen of course)

2. often enough TDP has not matched my own results (which more often, if not always, match what photozone.de or lens rentals gets)
 
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dufflover said:
Have to keep in mind this lens potentially could have serious focus breathing at MFD though, or not. Just have to wait and see ...

At the end of the day though it apparently rates .31x mag at MFD while the 400 f/5.6 rates .12x mag at MFD so even if it breathes it still works out way better.

The 70-300L breathes a ton, by MFD the 300mm rates as 200mm (which is why it ends up with no better mag at MFD than the 70-200 f/4 IS despite the close MFD distance it has).
 
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fish_shooter said:
Using the calculator found on this page: http://www.mhohner.de/formulas.php
I found that focal lengths of 176 to 178mm focus at 0.31 magnification when focused at a distance of 0.98m.

Wow that it is some extreme focus breathing, sounds like it goes as crazy as the 70-300L. But as mentioned, at the end of the day you get .31 vs .12 from the 400L.

I wonder how bad the breathing is at decently beyond MFD but not all that far distances though for small birds, if it acts like 250-300mm instead of 400mm that could be a bit rough.
 
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