Have most now forsaken the 5dMk3 and jumped on to the Mk4?

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Mt Spokane Photography said:
The simple reason that MK IV's are already in stock everywhere is that the supply is exceeding the demand.

I think that the list price of the Mark IV will drop from its launch price faster than it did for the Mark III, simply because the III was more of a leap over the II than the IV is over the III.

The selling price of the MK III dropped very fast, I paid $2750 for my 2nd one less that 6 months after it came out on a Adorama one day special. I really doubt that I'll see a deal like that. What we will see is bundled items, but Canon will not let the advertised price drop below MAP.

It is possible to get deals using Greentoe or Canon Price Watch street price, those will get better if the supply exceeds demand and dealers are stuck with too much inventory, or Canon dumps inventory to boost year end sales figures.
 
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H. Jones said:
Got a 1DX mark II two months ago and my 5D Mark III is still as amazing as it ever was! Although the new sensor tech is great and I love the 14 FPS on the 1DX2, the 5D mark III still makes incredible images for me as a second body and I'm glad I have access to both my 24-70 and 70-200 at any given time.

That said, the little plastic cap on the mode dial fell off around the time the 5D mark IV was released, so it did kinda get a little worse when the Mark IV came out.

The Mk3 is an amazing camera, and those who buy now surly get the best value for money DSLR ever! I have a 1DX2 and no doubt the sensor is amazing, but yes, the Mk3 makes buitiful images. Use my 1DX2 and Mk3 yesterday side by side, love the old ;) Mk3 even up against Canons best.
 
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don't see any reason to replace my 5D3 with yet another boring iteration of a marginally improved big fat and way too expensive mirrorslapper. i am done with SLRs, my next camera will be mirrorless. Canon or not Canon.

actually my 5D3 and assorted L lenses are sotting in their pelicase at home most of the time, while my EOS M 1st gen and those small EF-M lenses are with me, every time i expect and encounter something of visual interest to me. i may buy EOS M5, because of built-in viewfinder, although M5 is too big for my taste with the cludgy hump and its bulky "mini-DSLR" design. would have greatly preferred a super-compact "rangefinder"-style design with pop-up EVF ... ideally as small as Sony RX1R-II ... only with Canon EF-M lens mount ...but ... stupid, Canon!
 
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Video Guy: Nope still on the MK3 here. Simply because it has Magic Lantern which gives me all the video features available on any camera possible, plus the more important 2K 14bit RAW recording, which is something NO other camera can do!

I prioritize FF look and Colour over more resolution (4k):


1- FF look meaning the shallow depth of field, and the use of the whole lens image circle to see the edges of the lens, the beautiful light fall off, softness, bokeh swirl, etc. We like that in video.

2- Colours at 14bit Raw vs MJPEGs on the MK4 give the exact same difference you get in shooting 14bit raw stills vs 8bit JPEGs. Just much richer colour and tonality.

3- The 5D Raw is incredibly sharp. As sharp as HD/2K gets. C300 sharp, and I don't need anymore than that. (but if I had it I wouldn't mind, just never felt a need during post-processing for more resolution)

4- The 5D3 FAAAR exceeds a filmmaker's passion for photography (which we all have). I shoot the MK3 at Small (1920x1280) or Medium MAXIMUM. Jpeg, with Monochrome picture style (only shoot B&W) with sharpness +7 and contrast at zero. Giving PERFECT results. So the 5D3 really does exceed my needs by a large margin!

5- To be clear, I am sure the 5DIV can make amazing videos, the MJPEG 500Mbps 422 is far beyond any other codec in the ILC market, and the crop is S35ish image aesthetic, the cinema standard. So not hating on it. Just like the FF RAW more.
 
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My two 5D3's are great for shooting events where the silent shutter is a must and I have no intention of upgrading to the 5D4. Sure, the resolution and AF upgrades are solid improvements that I know I would enjoy. But, I don't flirt with the limits of the 5D3's resolution and AF enough to warrant an upgrade.

The 1Dx2 is a different story. Action under challenging lighting is my staple and I have pushed the limits of my 1Dx to the point where the 1Dx2 would increase my keeper rate. For me, the 1Dx2 is far more tempting. Someday...
 
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cellomaster27 said:
well, I just got mine today. went from a SL1/100D to a 5D3! crazy and awesome. haha I got it for a decent price too. All thanks to the mark 4.

now whether to keep or sell my SL1.. I also have a eos M.
Congrats! :)

Up to your decision:
It depends on how happy you are with your M.
I have the same combo 5D3/100D (but no M) and when I'm on vacation I wouldn't want to go without a viewfinder, esp. on the beach or skiing in snow.
And when you look at the prices for a new 100D/SL1 and make your guess what you'll get for a used one I'd keep it.
 
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I too awaited the 5d4 for a while and when it came the high price and feature list was just not enough to sway me , so I opted for a second 5D3 like many others as its still one hell of a camera and can easily stand up to most of what the 5d4 will do or what i need it for and i got the 5D3 for £1500 with a 3yr guarantee so it was a no brainer.

Wedding Photographers North East
 
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Well I actually had £3,000 saved up long before the 5D mark 4 was announced and I could not wait until the end of August when finally it was available to pre-order. However after more than 4 years to me it is really just a very minor upgrade to the 5D mark 3 and it is simply not worth £3,600. At a push I might have gone up to £3,200 or even higher if it had some compelling feature that I really wanted, but there is nothing in the new camera that I really need or want.
With the pound dropping like a stone it is likely the price will go up before it comes down, so I have given up all ideas of upgrading and I will stick with my 5D mk 3 for another 4 years.
 
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Maximilian said:
cellomaster27 said:
well, I just got mine today. went from a SL1/100D to a 5D3! crazy and awesome. haha I got it for a decent price too. All thanks to the mark 4.

now whether to keep or sell my SL1.. I also have a eos M.
Congrats! :)

Up to your decision:
It depends on how happy you are with your M.
I have the same combo 5D3/100D (but no M) and when I'm on vacation I wouldn't want to go without a viewfinder, esp. on the beach or skiing in snow.
And when you look at the prices for a new 100D/SL1 and make your guess what you'll get for a used one I'd keep it.

Thanks! I was going between a 6D and 5D3 but I definitely wanted the AF system of the 5D3 and better build. I guess I should keep my SL1. It is a snappy camera that really doesn't have much value now. Especially with the use it has seen with me. the eos m, I'll definitely be keeping that. I don't shoot much with it but I got that for so cheap, it isn't worth selling. I gave that to my parents to use... but they rather use their iphones. ;D
 
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There seems to be a pattern here: the IV may be improved, but people a large number of users are very reluctant to upgrade with the Mk IV costing what it does (at the moment). I suspect I will pick up a Mk IV, keep my III and sell my II. At a later date I may replace the III with another IV, but at current prices nothing will be happening.
 
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turtle said:
There seems to be a pattern here: the IV may be improved, but people a large number of users are very reluctant to upgrade with the Mk IV costing what it does (at the moment). I suspect I will pick up a Mk IV, keep my III and sell my II. At a later date I may replace the III with another IV, but at current prices nothing will be happening.

You are jumping to conclusions. Many with agree with the price being high, but others may feel the 5D3 more than adequately suits their needs.

Two things to consider:

  • A camera getting all-around better by 20% isn't necessarily what people want. I wanted spot-metering at a non-center AF point. Canon continues to withhold this feature -- which is on your cell phone, by the way -- to the 1D line.

  • The quality of my photography is limited by hardware / sensor / AF limitations only a fraction as much as my own skill / discipline / patience as a photographer. When I look at my non-keepers from a trip, they overwhelmingly are due to my not taking the time to methodically frame and reel in the shot -- not because the sensor clipped the highlights or because the AF whiffed. So a 5D4 will not benefit me nearly that much.

So I've come to the conclusion that I just need to shoot more and perhaps pick up a lens or two during this cycle. Until I am regularly exceeding the limits of my rig, a new rig will not take my photography to new heights.

- A
 
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My 5diii is still a remarkable device. It has been to multiple continents, in extremes of cold / wind / dust / heat (with precautions and care) and remains reliable. What "limitations" it may have do not keep me from creating some decent photos. And I fully agree that those images that are not keepers are usually due to the skills of the photographer and not the camera.

While some increased DR, a little better high ISO performance, a touch screen, a little less weight, GPS, Wifi and a camera body with controls that are almost identical to what I now have seems very enticing, I have no need to jump.........yet ;)

Down the road, when the prices come down and if my 5diii starts to fade away like an old soldier, I'll make the change. I am reading reviews and listening to what others have to say about the new product but that does not mean I don't appreciate what I am using now.
 
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Baba_HT said:
Am I the only one still Mk3 user? All I see on here now are threads regarding the Mk4.
To me the MK 3 is still an amazing camera. Maybe cause the 4k in the Mk4 sucks and I am not too fussy about touch screen. But that's me been me I guess.

I am very much still in love with my Mk3. I never leave home without her. ;D

I'm still using the 5D3 and 6D. I would love to have a 5D4 but can't afford it.
 
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AvTvM said:
don't see any reason to replace my 5D3 with yet another boring iteration of a marginally improved big fat and way too expensive mirrorslapper. i am done with SLRs, my next camera will be mirrorless. Canon or not Canon.

actually my 5D3 and assorted L lenses are sotting in their pelicase at home most of the time, while my EOS M 1st gen and those small EF-M lenses are with me, every time i expect and encounter something of visual interest to me. i may buy EOS M5, because of built-in viewfinder, although M5 is too big for my taste with the cludgy hump and its bulky "mini-DSLR" design. would have greatly preferred a super-compact "rangefinder"-style design with pop-up EVF ... ideally as small as Sony RX1R-II ... only with Canon EF-M lens mount ...but ... stupid, Canon!

This is exactly what I was thinking, except I gave away my EOS M to family as gift and got a Sony A7R, not Mk II, which I regret got larger in size..
 
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