Sony A7rIV
– Will be eclipsed by the the R5s/R5sR ultra-high res model.
In the meantime, if I had an A7R4, I would "downgrade" to the R5 45mp just to gain access to the RF lenses.
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Sony A7rIV
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That is some fun speculation. But it has a sprinkle too much Harry in it for me
There is nothing that Canon needs Sony for in terms of sensor tech. Despite the Dual Pixel design they have now matched Sony in DR, exceeded it in throughput and in terms of Color they were always ahead anyway. Once they decide to make more use of the two photo diodes per Pixel they can crush Sony in terms of DR as demonstrated in the C300 III and to a lesser degree, DPRAW with custom software. Sure there is the stacked sensor. But Canon is all about keeping costs low. And so far stacked sensor designs aren't about that at all.
In any case, they won't give up DPAF after slowly building up a reputation around it for so long.
And in terms of lenses, that has always been Canon's strength. Part of that certainly was their superior mount, but they have had a reputation for excellent lenses far back. And their new mount is just EF with a shorter flange distance, removing even more restrictions for the designers.
I'm a hybrid shooter. So if I had a A7R4, I would be downgrading from Sony's superior 8 bit 4.2.0 internal recording to Canon's crappy 10 bit 4.2.2. I would be sacrificing the glorious Sony 4K30p for the Canon's crippled no crop up to 8K30p or 4K120p with working autofocus in all modes.– Will be eclipsed by the the R5s/R5sR ultra-high res model.
In the meantime, if I had an A7R4, I would "downgrade" to the R5 45mp just to gain access to the RF lenses.
The point was about a competitor to the R5. The R5 is at least announced by Canon.– Will be eclipsed by the the R5s/R5sR ultra-high res model.
In the meantime, if I had an A7R4, I would "downgrade" to the R5 45mp just to gain access to the RF lenses.
All jokes aside, the Sony is what I'd consider a great high resolution photography camera with some video capabilities thrown in. I suppose if resolution was your priority, the Sony is what you'd consider first. By every other metric the R5 equals or leaves it in the dust.
4K120p will get a lot of play.Resolution and most likely dynamic range. I doubt Canon will do better in terms of the dynamic range.
There's a big overlap in usage scenarios between the R5 and the A7rIV, so they're rivals. Despite all the hype around 8K, very small percentage of R5 users will shoot 8K on regular basis.
4K120p will get a lot of play.
The point was about a competitor to the R5. The R5 is at least announced by Canon.
I wouldn't...
Still the A7rIV is/will be a rival to the R5.
I'm a hybrid shooter. So if I had a A7R4, I would be downgrading from Sony's superior 8 bit 4.2.0 internal recording to Canon's crappy 10 bit 4.2.2. I would be sacrificing the glorious Sony 4K30p for the Canon's crippled no crop up to 8K30p or 4K120p with working autofocus in all modes.
All jokes aside, the Sony is what I'd consider a great high resolution photography camera with some video capabilities thrown in. I suppose if resolution was your priority, the Sony is what you'd consider first. By every other metric the R5 equals or leaves it in the dust.
Resolution and most likely dynamic range. I doubt Canon will do better in terms of the dynamic range.
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Hmm I think they're the same class. Same market segment and (likely) similar price. A7rIII has some 42mp, is it a different class than its successor A7rIV?Only if you see it that way. Like I said, the only advantage over the R5 will be the resolution. I see them in different classes, with the R5 below the A7R4. That's why I mentioned the R5s/R5sR, as it will be the resolution-based flagship for Canon just like the A7R4 is for Sony.
Let's revisit this after the announcement or after the first DR/noise tests. I think Canon is going to surprise us.
The dynamic range of the 5div has been very adequate for my use as a fashion photographer, but perhaps landscape buffs will desire something more. If the R5 can surpass the R, then I will be happy enough to order one too..Hmm I think they're the same class. Same market segment and (likely) similar price. A7rIII has some 42mp, is it a different class than its successor A7rIV?
As in this thread above, DxOMark rated 1DxIII's sensor quite low which worries me a bit, but photonstophotos shows it in between the 5DIV and A7RIV.
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon EOS 1D X Mark III,Canon EOS 5D Mark IV,Sony ILCE-7RM4
My prediction is, the R5 performance will be around 1DXIII. Which will be great as I'm going to preorder it (if there's no surprises in its price tag). More realistically, it'll be close to 5DIV which will also be ok. There's no way it'll be better than A7rIV.
Actually I'm worried more about banding, hopefully they'll fix it. I've seen no complains on banding in 1DXIII, but the banding is still reported in the R.
– Will be eclipsed by the the R5s/R5sR ultra-high res model.
In the meantime, if I had an A7R4, I would "downgrade" to the R5 45mp just to gain access to the RF lenses.
Well, then EOS R6 will be a competitor too.Sony A7rIV
Ah yes... I know it exists but somehow I just didn't think about it like that. In my mind it is jut an R... well I lump it with it since it is essentially just a filter mod.
Hmm, I'm wondering where's the $2,500 price difference between the R5 and the 1DX Mark III coming from...Where are they taking shortcuts?Hmm I think they're the same class. Same market segment and (likely) similar price. A7rIII has some 42mp, is it a different class than its successor A7rIV?
As in this thread above, DxOMark rated 1DxIII's sensor quite low which worries me a bit, but photonstophotos shows it in between the 5DIV and A7RIV.
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon EOS 1D X Mark III,Canon EOS 5D Mark IV,Sony ILCE-7RM4
My prediction is, the R5 performance will be around 1DXIII. Which will be great as I'm going to preorder it (if there's no surprises in its price tag).