How long until the next FF body? Or buy now?

[Skulls]

Hey!
I'm not familiar to the Canon ecosystem and I'm not sure what choice is wiser. So if you guys could give me some advice, it'l be highly appreciated.
If there is a new FF Canon on the horizon, how long do you think until release, based on experience with previous Canon releases in the past?
What would you do if you were like me - wait or risk and buy, and then sell it cheaper if new FF body is released eventually (can't afford to have two bodies)?
There are good 6D deals now(5Dmk3 is ridiculously overpriced, even the second hand deals).

Cheers!

 

[bholliman]

My guess is that the next FF body to be released will be the 5D Mk4 maybe by June of next year.

Personally, I feel that both 5D Mk 3 and 6D prices are pretty good now. I'm happy with my 6D, but if I was buying my first FF now I would be tempted to get a 5D Mk3 at around $2500. I paid $2100 for my 6D two years ago since I bought when it first came out.

 

[Dekaner]

The next release will either be 1) something net new 2) 1DX II or 3) 5DIV (in that order). Any of these will be far more expensive than the 6D's current pricing. The 6D won't receive an upgrade until 2) and 3), so my guess is you've got at least 12 months to wait.

 

[Skulls]

My guess is that the next FF body to be released will be the 5D Mk4 maybe by June of next year.

Personally, I feel that both 5D Mk 3 and 6D prices are pretty good now. I'm happy with my 6D, but if I was buying my first FF now I would be tempted to get a 5D Mk3 at around $2500. I paid $2100 for my 6D two years ago since I bought when it first came out.

Thank you for your reply!
Where I live the prices of 5Dmk3(body only!) are: $3680 for new, and $2700(minimum) for a used body at ~100 000 shutter count with scratches, and whatnot.

 

[sanj]

Hey!
I'm not familiar to the Canon ecosystem and I'm not sure what choice is wiser. So if you guys could give me some advice, it'l be highly appreciated.
If there is a new FF Canon on the horizon, how long do you think until release, based on experience with previous Canon releases in the past?
What would you do if you were like me - wait or risk and buy, and then sell it cheaper if new FF body is released eventually (can't afford to have two bodies)?
There are good 6D deals now(5Dmk3 is ridiculously overpriced, even the second hand deals).

Cheers!

Overpriced by what standards pls?

 

[lintoni]

Unless you need top-notch AF, buy a 6D. I've a 5D3, but I bought that before the 6D was released. If I was looking to buy a FF Canon now, I'd get the 6D.

 

[bobby samat]

a 5d3 at the current price is pretty awesome.

who knows how much the 5d4 will be.

 

[Zv]

Buy a 6D now. Canon is deliberately slow with releasing updates to their FF lineup. Most likely the next FF camera to be released is the 5D Mk4 but I feel like the Mk 3 is still new (or maybe it just seems that way to me!). I don't think we'll see a replacement anytime soon. So rest easy on that point.

Also, it had been rumored that the 6D Mk2 will be more upscale and hence cost more. Grab a 6D now and enjoy the affordable FF fun! The six is packed with features and IMO is a real bargain. The wifi is kinda meh but the GPS is solid and very useful if you travel or do any kind of work outdoors. Easy to keep track of where you took the shot for those re-shoots and fave places. Plus it makes mapping images on Flickr a thing of the past.

If you shoot things that move I recommend you stretch for a 5D Mk3, the AF capabilities are well worth the extra. The 6D is quite basic in that regard. (I miss my 7D's 19 cross type points!)

 

[gsealy]

My guess is that the next FF body to be released will be the 5D Mk4 maybe by June of next year.

Personally, I feel that both 5D Mk 3 and 6D prices are pretty good now. I'm happy with my 6D, but if I was buying my first FF now I would be tempted to get a 5D Mk3 at around $2500. I paid $2100 for my 6D two years ago since I bought when it first came out.

Thank you for your reply!
Where I live the prices of 5Dmk3(body only!) are: $3680 for new, and $2700(minimum) for a used body at ~100 000 shutter count with scratches, and whatnot.

If I had the 5DIII passion, then I would go the Canon refurbished route. At about $2700 at least you would have the comfort of knowing that Canon worked it over and tested it to their specs. Plus you get a little warranty. I also can't argue with the person that said that the 6D is a good choice. If you wanted FF, but wanted to go real low in price, then consider going to Ebay and buying a 1D. A couple of years ago I found a 1DsII for $900 with only 20K on the shutter. I use the heck out of that camera. It takes great pictures, especially landscape, and it is solid as a rock.

 

[Zv]

I feel like every other day there's a deal on 5D3 and 6D bodies on EBay. Couldn't OP get one of those deals or are they region locked? US only? Surely not. People buy from all over these days. $3600 for a 5D3 is madness. That's more than when it was new.

http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/11/deal-canon-eos-6d-body-1349/

 

[Dekaner]

Just out of curiosity - what is the rationale that the 5DIV would come out before the 1DXII? The 1DX is older and any upgrade to the 5D could potentially provide better specs/capability than the 1DX. Isn't it more likely that we'll see the 1DX come out first and then the 5DIV 6 months later with a flow down of a handful of specs?

 

[lintoni]

Just out of curiosity - what is the rationale that the 5DIV would come out before the 1DXII? The 1DX is older and any upgrade to the 5D could potentially provide better specs/capability than the 1DX. Isn't it more likely that we'll see the 1DX come out first and then the 5DIV 6 months later with a flow down of a handful of specs?

I agree with your reasoning.

 

[Dylan777]

Hey!
I'm not familiar to the Canon ecosystem and I'm not sure what choice is wiser. So if you guys could give me some advice, it'l be highly appreciated.
If there is a new FF Canon on the horizon, how long do you think until release, based on experience with previous Canon releases in the past?
What would you do if you were like me - wait or risk and buy, and then sell it cheaper if new FF body is released eventually (can't afford to have two bodies)?
There are good 6D deals now(5Dmk3 is ridiculously overpriced, even the second hand deals).

Cheers!

If that the case, I suggest you shouldn't wait for next FF.

 

[LovePhotography]

Go to www.canonpricewatch.com/ and buy a 6D for ~$1400. What you get for the money is great photographs by almost anyone's standard.

 

[Marsu42]

There are good 6D deals now(5Dmk3 is ridiculously overpriced, even the second hand deals).

There is a reason for this - apart from the 6d sensor image quality the 5d3 is superior in every way.

If you happen to shoot center point only, shoot with slower lenses and don't track, go with the 6d. Remember that even *if* Canon releases a newer 5d4/6d2 anytime soon, it'll be a lot more expensive than the current models.

The next release will either be 1) something net new 2) 1DX II or 3) 5DIV (in that order). Any of these will be far more expensive than the 6D's current pricing. The 6D won't receive an upgrade until 2) and 3), so my guess is you've got at least 12 months to wait.

I'm giving the 6d another 2 years, one year until the 5d4 release, another year to trickle down innovations to the little brother.

 

[raptor3x]

There is a reason for this - apart from the 6d sensor image quality the 5d3 is superior in every way.

If you happen to shoot center point only, shoot with slower lenses and don't track, go with the 6d. Remember that even *if* Canon releases a newer 5d4/6d2 anytime soon, it'll be a lot more expensive than the current models.

I wouldn't say 5D3 is superior in every way, the 6D center point focuses better in low light and it also adds Wifi+GPS if that's something you want. Also, I'm not sure that the 5D4/6D2 will be much more expensive than the current models; Canon's pricing strategy lately seems a bit more reasonable.

 

[racebit]

To me it is very clear that:
1D is 2015,
5D is 2016,
6D is 2017.

 

[dgatwood]

There is a reason for this - apart from the 6d sensor image quality the 5d3 is superior in every way.

If you happen to shoot center point only, shoot with slower lenses and don't track, go with the 6d. Remember that even *if* Canon releases a newer 5d4/6d2 anytime soon, it'll be a lot more expensive than the current models.

I wouldn't say 5D3 is superior in every way, the 6D center point focuses better in low light and it also adds Wifi+GPS if that's something you want. Also, I'm not sure that the 5D4/6D2 will be much more expensive than the current models; Canon's pricing strategy lately seems a bit more reasonable.

The 5D's advantages include a better focusing system, viewfinder coverage (Whee! Three whole percent!), a faster maximum shutter speed, clean HDMI output, a faster maximum frame rate, better video IQ, and two slots (though only the CF slot is really fast enough to be usable).

The 6D's advantages are in-body GPS, in-body Wi-Fi, better sensor IQ (particularly in low light), significantly lower weight, better low-light focusing (center point only), and a faster SD card slot for easier compatibility with laptops and tablets.

For sports shooters and videographers, the 5D is a soundly better choice. For everyone else, the 6D's better IQ and better low-light handling makes it a soundly better choice even if it didn't cost half as much as the 5D Mark III. IMO, that makes the 5D Mark III overpriced for what you get. It is seriously in need of an update to bring its sensor IQ closer to parity with the 1D and 6D, and ideally, to bring its feature set up to parity with the 6D.

 

[dgatwood]

I'm giving the 6d another 2 years, one year until the 5d4 release, another year to trickle down innovations to the little brother.

Seriously? I was surprised that we didn't see a new rev of the 6D at Photokina two months ago. As the Rebel of the full-frame line, I'd expect the 6D's refresh rate to be a lot closer to the 1-year Rebel rate than the 4-year high-end body rate. By two years from now, other manufacturers will be eating their lunch at the low end.

 

[sb in ak]

To put it bluntly: Do you need it now? If yes, then get it now. Life's short and the march of technology is relentless.