Is Canon actually going to launch RF-S lenses alongside the Canon EOS R7?

[lote82]

Why not EF-M or Fuji X?

To be honest:
Fuji is the only brand who takes APS-C seriously. If R7 doesn't come and X-H2 arrives I will probably go for Fuji.
I hope this won't happen because transition costs and I will miss some lenses badly.

 

[Blue Zurich]

To be honest:
Fuji is the only brand who takes APS-C seriously. If R7 doesn't come and X-H2 arrives I will probably go for Fuji.
I hope this won't happen because transition costs and I will miss some lenses badly.

I think you should go for the Fuji and soon! Share your pics please! (Fujirumors.com)

 

[EOS 4 Life]

This is purely conjecture based upon rumour, historical behaviour and interpretation of facts, as is the entirety of this thread, including mine and your comments.

We are on a rumors site.
That is what we came here for.

 

[neuroanatomist]

You bet wrong! The front element would have the same size (Focal Length divided by f-number) so the difference would be negligible.

Exactly. For telephoto lens designs, the diameter of the image circle is not a limiting factor.

 

[John Wilde]

But the reality consists of more facts like ...

To Canon, M is "the system that dare not speak its name". They don't even acknowledge it's existence in their financial documents.

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[lote82]

To Canon, M is "the system that dare not speak its name". They don't even acknowledge it's existence in their financial documents.

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Strong commitment to a very "lively" system!

 

[tbgtomcom]

Makes perfect sense to me. Leading the way to an eventual RF-style Rebel for novices. I'm all for this happening.

 

[lote82]

I think you should go for the Fuji and soon! Share your pics please! (Fujirumors.com)

And I think you should go for the M system! Please don't share your pics! (Nobodycares.com)

 

[neuroanatomist]

To Canon, M is "the system that dare not speak its name". They don't even acknowledge it's existence in their financial documents.

They don't mention DSLRs in their financial documents, either. But in 2021, nearly half of the 2.74 million ILCs that Canon shipped were DSLRs. Both the DSLR and the APS-C MILC segments are mature markets. FF MILCs are a strong growth area for them, which is why their financial discussion in the Imaging segment focuses on that.

 

[lote82]

They don't mention DSLRs in their financial documents, either. But in 2021, nearly half of the 2.74 million ILCs that Canon shipped were DSLRs. Both the DSLR and the APS-C MILC segments are mature markets. FF MILCs are a strong growth area for them, which is why their financial reporting focuses on that.

Strong commitment to very "lively" DSLRs, too! Remember my question what M6 II and 90D had in common (not only the sensor)?

 

[Blue Zurich]

And I think you should go for the M system! Please don't share your pics! (Nobodycares.com)

You are a riot. I have the M system. Two bodies in fact. Would you like to point out my M relevant messages in this thread concerning the M system? Keep it on topic when using sardonic remarks or be dismissed.

 

[lote82]

You are a riot. I have the M system. Two bodies in fact. Would you like to point out my M relevant messages in this thread concerning the M system? Keep it on topic when using sardonic remarks or be dismissed.

Wer Wind sät, wird Sturm ernten!

Fürs Protokoll: Ich war sehr nah am topic

 

[neuroanatomist]

Strong commitment to very "lively" DSLRs, too! Remember my question what M6 II and 90D had in common (not only the sensor)?

Yes, they are both part of segments that sell very well for Canon.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Keep it on topic when using sardonic remarks or be dismissed.

@lote82's posts since joining a few months ago have been mainly toss-away one-liners. He/she/they have relegated him/her/them-self to irrelevancy, with a modicum of amusement value.

 

[SteveC]

I didn’t say it’s “about to be killed”. But I do feel that even as a mature product it will simply be kept on life support by canon, until it’s eventually phased out, similar to Sony did with the A mount.

What I did say however is I am an M user. I’m quite happy with it too.

I’m quite aware it’s a top-selling camera system in Japan, but what about outside of Japan? And I just wonder where the future lies for the M system if RF-S comes to pass.

I don't have any idea how well it's doing in the United States. I don't see many M cameras in the wild. But then, if I were to judge by what I see around me locally, Nikon has 80% market share.

My general pick-it-up-and-dash-out-the-door camera is an M6-II, generally with the Tamron 18-200 native EF-M lens. When I'm doing something more elaborate and less casual the R5 comes into play.

 

[Stig Nygaard]

To be honest:
Fuji is the only brand who takes APS-C seriously. If R7 doesn't come and X-H2 arrives I will probably go for Fuji.
I hope this won't happen because transition costs and I will miss some lenses badly.

I have also had my eyes on Fujifilm, however their AF is just not (yet?) anywhere near the performance I want.
Lately OM has caught my attention with the OM-1, and I wonder if I would feel the smaller MFT sensor would be good enough for me? For most photography I do definitely care more about optical quality than sensor size, so maybe?...
Maybe OM-1 is not yet completely where I ideally want it to be, but OM definitely seems to be going in the right direction (for me) with that body.

But if Canon gives us that R7, I can stop wondering about that for the next 4-6(?) years. As for lenses my existing EF-S will do fine for the time too, if Canon doesn't launch anything more attractive than what I already got.

 

[neuroanatomist]

My general pick-it-up-and-dash-out-the-door camera is an M6-II, generally with the Tamron 18-200 native EF-M lens. When I'm doing something more elaborate and less casual the R5 comes into play.

My grab-and-go camera is the R3, with the RF 24-105/4L for general use or the RF 70-200/2.8 for indoor events. For something more elaborate and less casual, I usually take the R3 with more esoteric lenses. I use the M6 when I am traveling light, either on an overnight trip with only carryon luggage, or a family vacation somewhere we've been before with less interesting photo ops.

 

[SteveC]

My grab-and-go camera is the R3, with the RF 24-105/4L for general use or the RF 70-200/2.8 for indoor events. For something more elaborate and less casual, I usually take the R3 with more esoteric lenses. I use the M6 when I am traveling light, either on an overnight trip with only carryon luggage, or a family vacation somewhere we've been before with less interesting photo ops.

Dash-out-the-door for me usually entails compactness. Over in R land, of course I have the same 24-105 (I bought it refurb with an RP, it's as if I got the RP for 250 bucks), and the 15-35 f/2.8; I also have the EF100-400; it basically lives in my RF bag even though I have used it with my M6-II (yes it looked funny but I wasn't photographing the camera). Those latter two are far from compact, whereas my entire EF-M gear set lives in a small bag.

I suppose I could switch to the R5 with 24-105 f/4 L for quick use, but it comes with a much larger bag and those other two lenses.

 

[SteveC]

More on topic, but really not all that much, I've noticed that Tamron EF-S lenses do not trigger the automatic cropping on R series cameras. (Unless Canon has "fixed" that in one of their firmware updates.) Though of course, you can enable it by hand.

I could imagine someone (with more ability than me) making "tunnel vision" photographs for an artistic effect with such a combo.

 

[lote82]

@lote82's posts since joining a few months ago have been mainly toss-away one-liners. He/she/they have relegated him/her/them-self to irrelevancy, with a modicum of amusement value.

I rather toss funny one-liners than bore people to death by talking the same false theories over and over again. You overestimate your relevance on a rumors(!) site!