Is Canon EOS-1S the Name? [CR1]

[dafrank]

9K to compete, what a joke, Canon really are a big monopoly, I dont think I can last much longer, Ive wanted something better than the 5D2 for ages, and the 1DX is too expensive, I own a 5D3 but its not the advancement I was wishing for, its a great camera, but was always hoping for a camera imbetween 5D and 1D, this is never going to happen

You're certainly welcome to your opinion, but I disagree. I've owned the old 5D and then the 5D2, owned the 1Ds2 and now 1Ds3, and now own the 5D3 as well. From my point of view, the 5D3 is exactly that camera between the 5D and 1D. I'm very happy with it now and feel that only some future 46 MP monster with new sensor tech could lure me back to even near the old 1Ds3 pricepoint, as the increase in ruggedness and speed of the current 1D are not worth the price differential between the 5D3 and 1DX to me. If I shot sports, then my opinion might be different. But, I don't.

Regards,
David

 

[Louis]

In my opinion, the camera may be the camera that's in between for you, but certainly not for me, Im bored of the sensor, I see terrible banding in blacks, and the sensor to me does not catch enough detail, I have studied it and feel anything further than 5 feet away just turns to mush, and doesn't hold up to the detail that I would like, maybe 35mm isn't for me, who knows, but what I've seen of Sony Sensors is that they are developing rapid and they retain great detail, let me ask you, why isn't this camera a D800 competitor? I tell you why, because it would murder the 1DX I honestly think Canons line of DSLRs is a mess, the stages in which they work is all over the place,

There is no gradual ramp up to the next model, its one huge jump that costs the world, and even at that, its not pushing boundaries, and to me, Fps is not boundaries or Build, its technology.

 

[jouster]

$9k? Lol..what a joke.

 

[Louis]

$9k? Lol..what a joke.

+1

 

[35mm Film]

9K to compete, what a joke, Canon really are a big monopoly, I dont think I can last much longer, Ive wanted something better than the 5D2 for ages, and the 1DX is too expensive, I own a 5D3 but its not the advancement I was wishing for, its a great camera, but was always hoping for a camera imbetween 5D and 1D, this is never going to happen

Yes I supose 9k is a lot to spend if your not making money from photography, but for me I will wait to see if it turns out to be a good camera then I'll get the design company I work for to buy one. If I like it I'll buy one for my home business.

 

[Louis]

I agree, lets just wait and see, it may not even be 9K, so who knows,

 

[pwp]

9000$? Why not just get a MF system then?

...and two sets of lenses? Do a price search for lenses for Hasselblad and it will make your eyes water. They're very very good, but phew! Plus the general handling of MF compared to the brilliant versatility that makes cameras like EOS system the first choice for most shooters on the planet, whether professional or amateur.

If I held stocks in any MF company, I'd be calling my broker.

Even at $9k, isn't this a little less than the 1Ds Mk3 was when it launched? I believe that camera went on to sell in large numbers. Provided it's 1-series build, then $9k doesn't sound so unreasonable.

-PW

 

[Bombsight]

Kinda $hitty of Canon to say the new 1DX is their "flagship" only to come out with the "real" flagship shortly afterward. ???

This frustrats me....the 1dx is the flagship for spots action and events! This will be the studio flagship, both types of shooting have different needs and thus the bodies will be spec'ed in a different way

You & Canon both need to decide on WHAT "A" flagship is. : ....There can only be one per manufacturer ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship

 

[pwp]

Kinda $hitty of Canon to say the new 1DX is their "flagship" only to come out with the "real" flagship shortly afterward. ???

This frustrates me....the 1dx is the flagship for spots action and events! This will be the studio flagship, both types of shooting have different needs and thus the bodies will be spec'ed in a different way

Who cares? Flagship, lifeboat or surf-ski...
I'm grateful for an increasingly comprehensive EOS range to suit a variety of shooting styles, budgets and professional requirements.

-PW

 

[pwp]

$9k? Lol..what a joke.

+1

= $9001. Fine with me.

-PW

 

[Loswr]

-1 seems much more likely - $8999 sounds like a 'real' price.

 

[KT]

The best thing about this EOS-1S price of $9K is that it'll substantially drop the price of the 1D X as most of the early buyers of the 1D X will dump them on eBay and jump ship to the EOS-1S model, now you can get it for a little over 1/2 the original price with 1-2K shutter actuations.

 

[bdunbar79]

The best thing about this EOS-1S price of $9K is that it'll substantially drop the price of the 1D X as most of the early buyers of the 1D X will dump them on eBay and jump ship to the EOS-1S model, now you can get it for a little over 1/2 the original price with 1-2K shutter actuations.

Totally wrong, wrong, wrong..............WRONG!

Why in the heck would I sell the best sports/action camera in the world for something that isn't a sports/action camera? What the heck are you thinking??

 

[crasher8]

9000$? Why not just get a MF system then?

...and two sets of lenses? Do a price search for lenses for Hasselblad and it will make your eyes water. They're very very good, but phew! Plus the general handling of MF compared to the brilliant versatility that makes cameras like EOS system the first choice for most shooters on the planet, whether professional or amateur.

If I held stocks in any MF company, I'd be calling my broker.

Even at $9k, isn't this a little less than the 1Ds Mk3 was when it launched? I believe that camera went on to sell in large numbers. Provided it's 1-series build, then $9k doesn't sound so unreasonable.

-PW

MF isn't just Hassy. Do a little bit of research or check out B&H's MF listing. Not that much higher than Canon's if not even less $$

 

[Razor2012]

The best thing about this EOS-1S price of $9K is that it'll substantially drop the price of the 1D X as most of the early buyers of the 1D X will dump them on eBay and jump ship to the EOS-1S model, now you can get it for a little over 1/2 the original price with 1-2K shutter actuations.

Totally wrong, wrong, wrong..............WRONG!

Why in the heck would I sell the best sports/action camera in the world for something that isn't a sports/action camera? What the heck are you thinking??

You'll have the best studio/landscape DSLR.

 

[Loswr]

Why in the heck would I sell the best sports/action camera in the world for something that isn't a sports/action camera? What the heck are you thinking??

Well, not for sports. But if a 1-series, it would very likely have the 1D X AF and metering, and the main sacrifice would a slower frame rate. Wildlife photographers might be tempted to trade fps for pixels on target, being able to crop to the framing of the 7D and still have an 18 MP image would be nice. I know I'd be tempted (but I'd not want to give up the ISO performance of the 1D X along with the fps).

 

[Chris_prophotographic]

Kinda $hitty of Canon to say the new 1DX is their "flagship" only to come out with the "real" flagship shortly afterward. ???

This frustrats me....the 1dx is the flagship for spots action and events! This will be the studio flagship, both types of shooting have different needs and thus the bodies will be spec'ed in a different way

You & Canon both need to decide on WHAT "A" flagship is. : ....There can only be one per manufacturer ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship

i have to agree , i don't like playing guessing games with LARGE purchases though. FLAGSHIP does hint at top of the top. anywho im married to the brand.

 

[pwp]

The best thing about this EOS-1S price of $9K is that it'll substantially drop the price of the 1D X as most of the early buyers of the 1D X will dump them on eBay and jump ship to the EOS-1S model, now you can get it for a little over 1/2 the original price with 1-2K shutter actuations.

1DX vs 1S = two different target markets; very little crossover. Some shooters will be very happy to have one of each, just as the EOS pro pair of choice for plenty of photographers over the past few years has been a 1Ds3 & a MkIV. It's a great combo.

BTW a high % of 1DX bodies would do that 1-2k shutter actuations each week, and a good number will run up over 5K per week.

In the unlikely event there is an increase of any camera type on eBay as a direct result of the existence of the 1S, it's more likely to be suddenly obsolete lower end or older MF kits.

-PW

 

[V8Beast]

Yep, 1DS III was $8000 at release and for the first few months.

Heck, even the 1Ds2 was $8,000 when it was released!

 

[bdunbar79]

Let's pretend that the 1DX is exactly what it is today, only it was released with the 1Ds2 in late 2004/early 2005. I wonder what it would cost!!