This is similar to Apple's tactic, making older devices slower intentionally to get you to HAVE TO buy the newer ones...quite sinister actually...
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It’s time to fill those memory cards. Canon releases firmware v1.8.1 for the Canon EOS R5. 400mp stills are now possible
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That hasn't been my experience when my 7 year old MBP was running at the same speed as when I bought it but wasn't powerful enough for my new R5's images and video.
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the official press release/blurb says fixes minor issues... too minor to mention explicitly
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9 shot pixel shift is a major spec sheet addition despite any limitations.
But where do the 9 raw files go? Unless the R5 is actually converting to jpg first in-camera and then combining them => this could account for the artifacts.
Canon knew that pixel peepers would explore the jpg and report their findings which - so far - doesn't look positive vs upscaling.
Saving 9 raw files (like dual pixel files) could encourage 3rd party SW (even Lightroom??) to generate a better compositing algorithm. At least you have the original files to revisit if a better algorithm is available in the future.
These artifacts are overshadowing issues like colour space/bit depth for jpg vs HEIF.
But where do the 9 raw files go? Unless the R5 is actually converting to jpg first in-camera and then combining them => this could account for the artifacts.
Canon knew that pixel peepers would explore the jpg and report their findings which - so far - doesn't look positive vs upscaling.
Saving 9 raw files (like dual pixel files) could encourage 3rd party SW (even Lightroom??) to generate a better compositing algorithm. At least you have the original files to revisit if a better algorithm is available in the future.
These artifacts are overshadowing issues like colour space/bit depth for jpg vs HEIF.
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Earlier this month, CR reported delay in R5ii release and "To keep the EOS R5 viable through 2023 in the features department, Canon will release a major new feature firmware update sometime this year." I can't find anything that Canon has said publicly though.
Canon has missed an opportunity to keeping the R5 as leading class even though it is coming up to 3 years old. New features weren't ever promised and we shouldn't expect them but new buyers are comparing the existing R5 (running current firmware) vs newer bodies from Sony/Nikon etc.
Features that we (as outsiders) believe are simple to implement haven't been. They are available in other newer bodies using the same Digic X family
- removal of 30 minute limit
- variable electronic shutter fps
- pre-buffer
- turning off IBIS but leaving lens OIS on
- wider range of subject tracking
- lens breathing correction
- bracketing with flash
If these were added, then it would be manna from heaven for owners and scaring competitors!
Interesting that Canon has replaced their phrase "phenomenon" with "issues" in "5. Fixes minor issues"
Canon has missed an opportunity to keeping the R5 as leading class even though it is coming up to 3 years old. New features weren't ever promised and we shouldn't expect them but new buyers are comparing the existing R5 (running current firmware) vs newer bodies from Sony/Nikon etc.
Features that we (as outsiders) believe are simple to implement haven't been. They are available in other newer bodies using the same Digic X family
- removal of 30 minute limit
- variable electronic shutter fps
- pre-buffer
- turning off IBIS but leaving lens OIS on
- wider range of subject tracking
- lens breathing correction
- bracketing with flash
If these were added, then it would be manna from heaven for owners and scaring competitors!
Interesting that Canon has replaced their phrase "phenomenon" with "issues" in "5. Fixes minor issues"
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Some? The use cases that don’t involve using a tripod will involve setting the camera on a concrete block, on a brick wall, on a steel beam, and similar setups.
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Canon does usually let us disable lens IS without disabling IBIS.
I wonder if that is still the case with this new feature.
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I just downloaded 1.8.1 and the manual. Yes, it does disable lens IS and it is meant to be used only on a tripod (and a stable one at that). I took a couple of shots with and EF 200mm f/2.8L set at f/4 (one of the sharpest lenses I have) and gave it a go. The result compared well to a decent 600mm lens and the JPEG file is 170 MB. It takes LR several seconds to zoom in on a fast computer. Given the JPEG output, this is only good for situations with decent lighting, but the final result is remarkably sharp for nearly 10x the pixel count of the sensor. When I get some decent light, I will try some wide shots with the RF 14-35. This is not something you would use every day, but it defintely has a place.
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Let's look at things logically. People expected great things due to rumors, not facts, nor even based on what firmware updates typically include - even in the very recent past. Did Canon add these updated AF features to the R6? NO. They put them in the Mark II version of the camera. So isn't it logical that Canon will do the same with the R5?
A cunning plan? The most likely "plan" is that Canon wants them to buy the R5 II - which, like the R6 II - will have the newer features. If they put all these newer features into the firmware, what will they put in the R5 II? These are, quite possibly, the major features that will be the selling point for the R5 II.
As always, these are just my opinions and could be totally wrong (as I was wrong about the 400 high res). Maybe the rumors are true and there will be a major firmware update in the near future. But I see no reason to expect it, nor any reason to blame Canon because their firmware update is essentially just like most every firmware update (and arguably more than most).
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I thought it was included for the R3 - Maybe I am missing something @neuroanatomist
From Canon Canada's site:
Firmware Version 1.4.0 incorporates the following enhancements and fixes:
1. Adds support for Speedlite EL-5.*
*The automatic light intensity adjustment of the AF-assist beam is not supported.
2. Adds [Register people priority] to the camera menu.
Pre-registered people can now be detected and tracked with priority.**
** This feature may not operate if faces are too small to detect, in profile or turned at an angle or partially hidden; for scenes where the subject is moving; or due to certain shooting environments.
3. Adds [Save/load comm. settings on card] to the camera menu.
Network settings can now be transferred between cameras of the same model.
4. Adds [Panning Assist] to the camera menu. When a compatible lens is used for panning shots, image stabilization and subject blur correction are applied during the exposure.
5. Improves the Auto White Balance (AWB) setting to reduce the time it takes for the AWB result to be reflected in the camera’s viewfinder's display when looking through the viewfinder.
6. Adds Protect Images During [FTP Transfer] to the camera menu. Images transferred via FTP can now be automatically protected. The user can determine if images have already been transferred via FTP.
7. Fixes minor issues.
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You’re orrect. My point was that I’d be frustrated if they hadn’t provided compatibility.
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You have obviously spent no time in Sony forums ;-)Nah, Sony can do no wrong, Sony cameras are absolutely perfect in every possible way, everyone else is d00med
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Seems like the real question here is why are some people getting weird artifacts, while others are not and their test images look amazing.
More research needs to be done.
More research needs to be done.
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Perhaps some people’s setups aren’t as stable as they think. I have a rock solid tripod and head (RRS TVC-33 and BH-55). When I set them up in my living room, there’s vibration transmitted through the hardwood flooring over a wooden subfloor. In the basement (tile/wood over concrete slab) or garage (bare concrete slab), there is none.
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Same application as in my SL2. Works well for landscapes and moonshots in particular.
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Right, that's how I managed to get a test photo after careful handholding was a bust. I did not see the artifacts but It was not a very careful photo of my coffee mug at mfd.
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