I've got a feeling: EF 24/2.8, 28/2.8, 28/1.8, 35/2, 50/1.4, 50/1.8, 85/1.8...

[elflord]

I am really not sure wht people are carrying on about EF-s primes it just doesnt make business sense to make EF-S primes, there would be no size/weight savings to speak of and the EF range can be used on both EFa nd EF-s bodies you just have to use different lenses to get the desired focal length on EF-S. It's hardly a matter of APS-C vs FF if anything FF miss out because they cant use the 17-55 f2.8 IS

It makes sense with wider lenses. It's much cheaper to make a fast 35mm for APS-C than one that covers a full frame sensor. The 50mm f/1.4 is $300 or so, there's no reason a 35mm /1.4 couldn't also be in the same price ballpark (except they wouldn't want to take sales from the L lens)

 

[jseliger]

These lenses were all designed in an era when that entire range of cameras was full frame, i.e. film. Today, FF cameras from Canon cost $2K and up, and the quality (and thus, consumer popularity) of zoom lenses is an order of magnitude higher than what it was when these EF primes came out. I doubt we'll see the cheaper EF primes updated as anything other than EF-S, and very few of those, probably only one 'normal' prime, maybe one wide prime.

I don't see why many people would want wide-to-normal angle primes at f / 2.8, when there are zooms with virtually indistinguishable image quality at f / 2.8, or, alternately, faster f / 1.4 – 2.0 primes for slightly more money. Something like a 28mm f / 2.8 sits in an awkward middle ground that I can't imagine being hugely popular, given the other options.

Personally, I'd like to see a 28 - 35mm f / 2 for ~$200, a la the Nikon 35mm. I'd use it in lieu of the 50 f / 1.8, which I like but find too narrow for a lot of what I do.

 

[noodles]

Personally, I'd like to see a 28 - 35mm f / 2 for ~$200, a la the Nikon 35mm. ............

I paid for my current 35mm f/2 around 245 euro
Maybe it will drop in price if a 35mm f/2 IS will be introduced. On the other hand, they may take it out of the market. With IS I am sure the price will go up.

 

[moreorless]

As far as EF-S goes my guess would be that part of the reason for the 24mm and 28mm's being revamped is to potentially sell them to crop users as 40-45mm standards. Add in IS aswell and you have the potental for a very compact and versatile setup on a Rebel.

 

[jseliger]

As far as EF-S goes my guess would be that part of the reason for the 24mm and 28mm's being revamped is to potentially sell them to crop users as 40-45mm standards. Add in IS aswell and you have the potental for a very compact and versatile setup on a Rebel.

At f / 2.8? That's so slow: in most circumstances outside of landscapes, I suspect most photographers would rather have the Canon 28mm f / 1.8 or Sigma 30mm f / 1.4, shoot at 2 – 2.4, and, if people are involved, increase the shutter speed.

I posited this elsewhere, but perhaps Canon is using these two lenses as "test run" to see if people really value IS and will pay substantially more for it.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Good Call, the first ones are here. They likely use that new patent that reduces lens abberations, its a form of diffractive optics, resin (plasti) and able to vary thickness radially much more than a ground lens. This has been mentioned in many of the recent patents, so much, that you could see it coming.

It also gives them a excuse to raise prices. adding IS is expensive, so the high price should be expected.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

From the various rumors we've been hearing over the last few months, I'm getting the feeling that Canon is about to revamp their entire line of EF primes.

Possibly all at once, even.

I just wonder if they'll turn them all into EF-S lenses, and keep EF mainly for L and specialty lenses from here on out?

wow, good call

 

[moreorless]

As far as EF-S goes my guess would be that part of the reason for the 24mm and 28mm's being revamped is to potentially sell them to crop users as 40-45mm standards. Add in IS aswell and you have the potental for a very compact and versatile setup on a Rebel.

At f / 2.8? That's so slow: in most circumstances outside of landscapes, I suspect most photographers would rather have the Canon 28mm f / 1.8 or Sigma 30mm f / 1.4, shoot at 2 – 2.4, and, if people are involved, increase the shutter speed.

I posited this elsewhere, but perhaps Canon is using these two lenses as "test run" to see if people really value IS and will pay substantially more for it.

Landscapes are going to be part of most peoples general purpose shooting I'd guess plus with the Sigma your looking at a lens that weighs twice as much.

In todays market with decent high ISO and mirrorless options the worth of primes has I'd say become more about space saving.

If anything else follows I'd guess it will be the 35mm f/2 and 50mm 1.4 rather than any of the long/more specialist lenses.

 

[Ellen Schmidtee]

In todays market with decent high ISO and mirrorless options the worth of primes has I'd say become more about space saving.

I bought a 5Dmk2, rather than some APS-C or m43 or whatever, because I care about low light performance more than I care about equipment size & weight.

I care more about what I can get out of the equipment I have now than what I could get out of the equipment I might have in a couple of years.

In other words, I'd rather have a 1-2 stops faster lens now (and for the years in which I'll own the lens) rather than another 1-2 stops cleaner body in two years, which would perform even better with faster lens.

 

[ejenner]

I love IS. I wish my 17-40 had IS, and would pay a lot extra for it.

But these? Nah. I would want either a relatively cheaper f4 IS or a f1.4 and I'd go without IS assuming they had substantially better IQ than any of the zooms in this range.

I'm thinking they are primarily for video on a crop sensor.

Also no-one has really seemed to mention it, but 24 and 28mm seem really close together. Is this just becasue they were designed similarly, so canon thought 'what the heck, we might as well make both'?

Or is is more 24 is a well liked FL on FF and 28 is closer to 50mm on crop?

No next we should get a 50mm IS lens for FF video.

 

[TW]

**UPDATE: Well, I think my worry that Canon would move away from ES primes towards EF-S appears to have been unfounded. Thank goodness!