Leica to Announce the M11-V, but is it still a Rangefinder?

[Richard CR]

It appears as if it's the end of an era in Leica land. The M11-V is expected to be announced soon, but it has a feature that no other Leica M series cameras have had - no optical viewfinder, and it uses an EVF. This makes it the first M-mount camera with an EVF. This camera would supplant the M11 that was announced on January 13, 2022.

Leica to Announce the M11-V, but is it still a Rangefinder? - Canon Rumors

It appears as if it’s the end of an era in Leica land. The M11-V is expected to be announced soon, but it has a feature that no other Leica M series cameras have had – no optical viewfinder, and it uses an EVF. This makes it the first M-mount camera with an EVF. This […]

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[Del Paso]

I have been a Leica M user since the early 80s. Leica was expensive, but still affordable.
These days are over, pricing is, in my opinion, no longer justifiable. Reliability use to be a main strength of the Ms, nowadays, broken or stuck ISO selector wheels occur quite often, if you don't handle the M like a raw egg. Not to mention freezing...Lenses: I've had to send in for repair or back to the seller at least 5 newer ones (28mm Asph, Summicron 50mm, Elmarit 35 etc...). The reason was always a loose front lens-tube.
If it weren't for the extreme optical quality of the lenses, I would have left the brand long time ago.
Don't misunderstand me, I still like the M. But I deeply regret it has gone a long way from the M3's quality standards, and I'm no longer ready to accept collector's prices for what it should be, a tool. Nothing else!
A purely digital M, with exclusively manual digital focusing? Not for me, but the collectors will enjoy buying a new toy for their showcase.
The Leica SL system is even a different chapter, selling Panasonic or Sigma lenses as Leicas at sometimes the quadruple price is just insane.

 

[Canon Rumors]

I have been a Leica M user since the early 80s. Leica was expensive, but still affordable.
These days are over, pricing is, in my opinion, no longer justifiable. Reliability use to be a main strength of the Ms, nowadays, broken or stuck ISO selector wheels occur quite often, if you don't handle the M like a raw egg. Not to mention freezing...Lenses: I've had to send in for repair or back to the seller at least 5 newer ones (28mm Asph, Summicron 50mm, Elmarit 35 etc...). The reason was always a loose front lens-tube.
If it weren't for the extreme optical quality of the lenses, I would have left the brand long time ago.
Don't misunderstand me, I still like the M. But I deeply regret it has gone a long way from the M3's quality standards, and I'm no longer ready to accept collector's prices for what it should be, a tool. Nothing else!
A purely digital M, with exclusively manual digital focusing? Not for me, but the collectors will enjoy buying a new toy for their showcase.
The Leica SL system is even a different chapter, selling Panasonic or Sigma lenses as Leicas at sometimes the quadruple price is just insane.

I have up for the most part because of my eyes. I couldn't use one with glasses.

I kept the M9 (my favourite sensor) and a Canadian special edition M4. I don't use either very often. The m4 gets used more. Film looks better out of focus.

This EVF thing was necessary to keep the M line going. They need younger albeit wealthy customers. Though, China is probably their go-to market now.

It'll probably also benefit people with aging eyes, just not me. It's losing its one of a kind experience.

 

[Del Paso]

I have up for the most part because of my eyes. I couldn't use one with glasses.

I kept the M9 (my favourite sensor) and a Canadian special edition M4. I don't use either very often. The m4 gets used more. Film looks better out of focus.

This EVF thing was necessary to keep the M line going. They need younger albeit wealthy customers. Though, China is probably their go-to market now.

It'll probably also benefit people with aging eyes, just not me. It's losing its one of a kind experience.

I'm not sure EVF focusing will be precise enough (and fast enough) with a Noctilux. What I particularly liked about the M was the "on the point focusing", not some kind of spatial focusing.
Yet, you are absolutely right! The new, young and rich M customers will certainly prefer "modern" over "traditional".
But, honestly, I am totally in love with some newer Canon lenses (zooms!), and also bodies. If I entered the Leica sytem nowadays, then certainly wit a Q3.
It is digital, with EVF, but incorporates the Leica "spirit" much better than the fragile luxury M bodies.
Sorry, but I've had too many repairs (VF disadjusted, shutter bounce, winders and motordrives kaputt, loose lenses). I'd presently be bankrupt if I hadn't fixed most issues myself...
And yet, I love the M!

 

[Bob Howland]

How does Leica's triple resolution technology differ from Canon MILC's ability to output JPGs in three or four different resolutions (L, M, S1 and S2 for the R5)? Can the Leica output raw images in multiple resolutions?

 

[Del Paso]

How does Leica's triple resolution technology differ from Canon MILC's ability to output JPGs in three or four different resolutions (L, M, S1 and S2 for the R5)? Can the Leica output raw images in multiple resolutions?

They just use some cropping. In Lightroom, you still can afterwards opt for 28mm, even if you took your picture at "75"mm. No magic...
That's why, when you shoot at 75mm for instance, you won't get the 60MP, but the corresponding cropped MP count.

 

[m4ndr4ke]

How does Leica's triple resolution technology differ from Canon MILC's ability to output JPGs in three or four different resolutions (L, M, S1 and S2 for the R5)? Can the Leica output raw images in multiple resolutions?

Yes, they can.

Some Canon cameras also have mRAW and sRAW, for instance, although I’m not sure whether Leica’s option is essentially the same or not.

 

[Canon Rumors]

How does Leica's triple resolution technology differ from Canon MILC's ability to output JPGs in three or four different resolutions (L, M, S1 and S2 for the R5)? Can the Leica output raw images in multiple resolutions?

It uses pixel-binning and it's RAW (DNG). It's quite a cool feature. I never have the Q3 at 60mp.

 

[john1970]

I own a M11 monochrome, which I now see the cost is north of $10K. I do enjoy the M11 monochrome and the few Leica lenses that I own, but at this stage until the M11 monochrome breaks I cannot justify replacing it. So far no issues with the Leica lenses which were purchased over five years ago.

 

[jjanusz]

How does Leica's triple resolution technology differ from Canon MILC's ability to output JPGs in three or four different resolutions (L, M, S1 and S2 for the R5)? Can the Leica output raw images in multiple resolutions?

Yes, they can produce different raw file resulution thanks to Triple Resolution (in-camera pixel binning) technology. Very handy if you don't need full resolution all the time.