Lens & accessory options for Sony FE mount cameras a7 & a7R

[JohnDizzo15]

Deo-Tech Falcon adapter is the one I'm curious about. They claim to have 20% faster AF than the competition. They also come with a Bluetooth link so that you can update firmware later. Around 240 bucks I think. Not much info on the net though.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Deo-Tech Falcon adapter is the one I'm curious about. They claim to have 20% faster AF than the competition. They also come with a Bluetooth link so that you can update firmware later. Around 240 bucks I think. Not much info on the net though.

Interesting ... thanks for sharing.
I just went through their website http://www.deo-tech.com/ ... but cannot find where they claim "20% faster AF than the competition". However, they do claim that their version III adapter is "20% faster than the former model by using Sony A7 / A7R" i.e. DEO Canon EF to Sony E “NEX” Adapter Mark III is 20% faster than their previous version. But a bit further down, in the product features they claim "Faster AF in Sony a7/a7R camera (20% faster in APS-C mode)".
So, its a bit confusing ... is it 20% faster then the previous version in full frame mode or is it 20% faster only in APS-C mode ... not so sure from their website.

 

[JohnDizzo15]

Deo-Tech Falcon adapter is the one I'm curious about. They claim to have 20% faster AF than the competition. They also come with a Bluetooth link so that you can update firmware later. Around 240 bucks I think. Not much info on the net though.

Interesting ... thanks for sharing.
I just went through their website http://www.deo-tech.com/ ... but cannot find where they claim "20% faster AF than the competition". However, they do claim that their version III adapter is "20% faster than the former model by using Sony A7 / A7R" i.e. DEO Canon EF to Sony E “NEX” Adapter Mark III is 20% faster than their previous version. But a bit further down, in the product features they claim "Faster AF in Sony a7/a7R camera (20% faster in APS-C mode)".
So, its a bit confusing ... is it 20% faster then the previous version in full frame mode or is it 20% faster only in APS-C mode ... not so sure from their website.

Just noticed that as well. I hadn't been on their site again since I first found out about it a few weeks ago. At that time, there was just a list of bullet points where the 20% bump in AF speed was mentioned. It also didn't mention anything about the speed being specifically for APS-C which is interesting now that it does. If only some brave soul would go and purchase/test one for the rest of us...... ;D

 

[sdsr]

Finally here. A7R with FE55mm f/1.8. Reading the manual now, but how do you move the focus point around?

Congratulations, may it serve you well. To change the focus point:
Hit "Fn" button, choose "Focus Area" and select "Flexible Spot M" ... then you can use the Control Wheel on the back of the camera to select the focus point.

In addition to that (I prefer Flexible Spot S, but there's also a large one too), it helps a lot if you assign focus point selection to an external button on the camera, which reduces the number of steps (unless I'm missing something, the smallest number of steps you can take is hit one button then use the four-way control wheel or two of the wheels near the top (one for vertical, the other horizontal, movement); too bad they didn't copy Olympus OM-Ds, where you can set up the rear control wheel so that there's no need to press some other button before using the directional buttons). I find it most convenient to assign that function to one of the four buttons on the rear control wheel, since that's what I typically use to move the focus point, but there are plenty of other options.

 

[drjlo]

Finally here. A7R with FE55mm f/1.8. Reading the manual now, but how do you move the focus point around?

Congratulations, may it serve you well. To change the focus point:
Hit "Fn" button, choose "Focus Area" and select "Flexible Spot M" ... then you can use the Control Wheel on the back of the camera to select the focus point.

In addition to that (I prefer Flexible Spot S, but there's also a large one too), it helps a lot if you assign focus point selection to an external button on the camera, which reduces the number of steps (unless I'm missing something, the smallest number of steps you can take is hit one button then use the four-way control wheel or two of the wheels near the top (one for vertical, the other horizontal, movement); too bad they didn't copy Olympus OM-Ds, where you can set up the rear control wheel so that there's no need to press some other button before using the directional buttons). I find it most convenient to assign that function to one of the four buttons on the rear control wheel, since that's what I typically use to move the focus point, but there are plenty of other options.

I'm finding I like flex spot S. Also the C1 button is assigned by default to be AF point movement activator, after which you have to use the two round dials front and back on top for horizontal/vertical movement. It's kind of a pain and slow, and the dials are too stiff. I miss my 5D III AF setup but it will have to do. Oh, and that shutter release button should have been physically more forward.

Zeiss 55 mm is built way better than I expected from internet pictures, where it kind of looks like my Canon EOS M lenses but way heavier and sturdier. AF speed seems perfectly fine and accurate too for my purposes, even in dark interiors. Would hate to slow it down with adapter+Canon lens setup and may spend that $400 for Metabones towards a used Sony/Zeiss 35 mm f/2.8.

Looking at that Deo-Tech adapter, it looks the same to me as TechArt and RJ visually. I strongly suspect same oem, and researching them further, Fred Miranda is saying those have more softness and CA in corners compared to Metabones, which suffer from internal reflections themselves :-\

 

[Dylan777]

Finally here. A7R with FE55mm f/1.8. Reading the manual now, but how do you move the focus point around?

Congratulations, may it serve you well. To change the focus point:
Hit "Fn" button, choose "Focus Area" and select "Flexible Spot M" ... then you can use the Control Wheel on the back of the camera to select the focus point.

In addition to that (I prefer Flexible Spot S, but there's also a large one too), it helps a lot if you assign focus point selection to an external button on the camera, which reduces the number of steps (unless I'm missing something, the smallest number of steps you can take is hit one button then use the four-way control wheel or two of the wheels near the top (one for vertical, the other horizontal, movement); too bad they didn't copy Olympus OM-Ds, where you can set up the rear control wheel so that there's no need to press some other button before using the directional buttons). I find it most convenient to assign that function to one of the four buttons on the rear control wheel, since that's what I typically use to move the focus point, but there are plenty of other options.

I'm finding I like flex spot S. Also the C1 button is assigned by default to be AF point movement activator, after which you have to use the two round dials front and back on top for horizontal/vertical movement. It's kind of a pain and slow, and the dials are too stiff. I miss my 5D III AF setup but it will have to do. Oh, and that shutter release button should have been physically more forward.

Zeiss 55 mm is built way better than I expected from internet pictures, where it kind of looks like my Canon EOS M lenses but way heavier and sturdier. AF speed seems perfectly fine and accurate too for my purposes, even in dark interiors. Would hate to slow it down with adapter+Canon lens setup and may spend that $400 for Metabones towards a used Sony/Zeiss 35 mm f/2.8.

Looking at that Deo-Tech adapter, it looks the same to me as TechArt and RJ visually. I strongly suspect same oem, and researching them further, Fred Miranda is saying those have more softness and CA in corners compared to Metabones, which suffer from internal reflections themselves :-\

You sound like a dude name Dylan777 on CR ;D

If Sony/Zeiss releases FE 16-35 f4 OS(same body size as E-mount 10-18 f4 OS) & IQ same or better than Canon 16-35 f2.8 II, I'm ALL IN

My wish is a small FE UWA prime f4 lens. If possible, keep it same side as FE 35mm or tiny bit bigger is fine. Focal lenght can be anywhere from 16 to 20mm.

Look forward to see your photos here: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=19484.0

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Finally here. A7R with FE55mm f/1.8. Reading the manual now, but how do you move the focus point around?

Congratulations, may it serve you well. To change the focus point:
Hit "Fn" button, choose "Focus Area" and select "Flexible Spot M" ... then you can use the Control Wheel on the back of the camera to select the focus point.

In addition to that (I prefer Flexible Spot S, but there's also a large one too), it helps a lot if you assign focus point selection to an external button on the camera, which reduces the number of steps (unless I'm missing something, the smallest number of steps you can take is hit one button then use the four-way control wheel or two of the wheels near the top (one for vertical, the other horizontal, movement); too bad they didn't copy Olympus OM-Ds, where you can set up the rear control wheel so that there's no need to press some other button before using the directional buttons). I find it most convenient to assign that function to one of the four buttons on the rear control wheel, since that's what I typically use to move the focus point, but there are plenty of other options.

I'm finding I like flex spot S. Also the C1 button is assigned by default to be AF point movement activator, after which you have to use the two round dials front and back on top for horizontal/vertical movement. It's kind of a pain and slow, and the dials are too stiff. I miss my 5D III AF setup but it will have to do. Oh, and that shutter release button should have been physically more forward.

Zeiss 55 mm is built way better than I expected from internet pictures, where it kind of looks like my Canon EOS M lenses but way heavier and sturdier. AF speed seems perfectly fine and accurate too for my purposes, even in dark interiors. Would hate to slow it down with adapter+Canon lens setup and may spend that $400 for Metabones towards a used Sony/Zeiss 35 mm f/2.8.

Looking at that Deo-Tech adapter, it looks the same to me as TechArt and RJ visually. I strongly suspect same oem, and researching them further, Fred Miranda is saying those have more softness and CA in corners compared to Metabones, which suffer from internal reflections themselves :-\

If Sony/Zeiss releases FE 16-35 f4 OS(same body size as E-mount 10-18 f4 OS) & IQ same or better than Canon 16-35 f2.8 II, I'm ALL IN

My wish is a small FE UWA prime f4 lens. If possible, keep it same side as FE 35mm or tiny bit bigger is fine. Focal lenght can be anywhere from 16 to 20mm.

+1 ... but I prefer 16 to 24mm reach, so I'll have a 16-70mm reach between 2 lenses.

 

[J.R.]

I'm thinking of getting the A7R and am going through a ton of information right now. Found this interesting article at diglloyd, it is worth a read:

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013-index-12.html#20131201_2-SonyA7R-Zeiss-Leica-lens-options-support

 

[Rienzphotoz]

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013-index-12.html#20131201_2-SonyA7R-Zeiss-Leica-lens-options-support

Thanks for sharing that link ... very interesting article there about:

Samyang Builds in the Lens Adapter for Sony A7R / A7 E-Mount

Samyang has been rolling out lenses for still and video use, aggressively adding support for various lens mounts—hard to beat that kind of enthusiasm. See the review of the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 in DAP.

For the Sony A7R / A7 (Sony E mount), Samyang has essentially added a built-in extension tube to the rear of each DSLR lens. It’s like adding a lens adapter, but without the adapter and additional flange between lens and adapter. A cool idea for which Samyang deserves credit. It doesn’t optimize the lens for A7R/A7 mirrorless use, but DSLR designs should generally perform well due to a long backfocal distanc

 

[Dylan777]

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013-index-12.html#20131201_2-SonyA7R-Zeiss-Leica-lens-options-support

Thanks for sharing that link ... very interesting article there about:

Samyang Builds in the Lens Adapter for Sony A7R / A7 E-Mount

Samyang has been rolling out lenses for still and video use, aggressively adding support for various lens mounts—hard to beat that kind of enthusiasm. See the review of the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 in DAP.

For the Sony A7R / A7 (Sony E mount), Samyang has essentially added a built-in extension tube to the rear of each DSLR lens. It’s like adding a lens adapter, but without the adapter and additional flange between lens and adapter. A cool idea for which Samyang deserves credit. It doesn’t optimize the lens for A7R/A7 mirrorless use, but DSLR designs should generally perform well due to a long backfocal distanc

Rienz, do you know Samyang will have AF or manual?

 

[Dylan777]

I'm thinking of getting the A7R and am going through a ton of information right now. Found this interesting article at diglloyd, it is worth a read:

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013-index-12.html#20131201_2-SonyA7R-Zeiss-Leica-lens-options-support

JR, why A7R?

 

[J.R.]

I'm thinking of getting the A7R and am going through a ton of information right now. Found this interesting article at diglloyd, it is worth a read:

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013-index-12.html#20131201_2-SonyA7R-Zeiss-Leica-lens-options-support

JR, why A7R?

AR7 = High MP + DR. I'm contemplating the A7R only for landscaping with the TS-E lenses.

I am perfectly happy with my Canon system for everything else I shoot.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013-index-12.html#20131201_2-SonyA7R-Zeiss-Leica-lens-options-support

Thanks for sharing that link ... very interesting article there about:

Samyang Builds in the Lens Adapter for Sony A7R / A7 E-Mount

Samyang has been rolling out lenses for still and video use, aggressively adding support for various lens mounts—hard to beat that kind of enthusiasm. See the review of the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 in DAP.

For the Sony A7R / A7 (Sony E mount), Samyang has essentially added a built-in extension tube to the rear of each DSLR lens. It’s like adding a lens adapter, but without the adapter and additional flange between lens and adapter. A cool idea for which Samyang deserves credit. It doesn’t optimize the lens for A7R/A7 mirrorless use, but DSLR designs should generally perform well due to a long backfocal distanc

Rienz, do you know Samyang will have AF or manual?

I think these are the same manual lenses already available for other mounts but with a built in adapter to work on Sony E mount.

 

[JohnDizzo15]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone in here adapted EF lenses to the A7? Seems like most of the stuff I find is for people adapting them to the 7r.

Also, kind of off topic but figured I would pose the question since there are plenty of Sony adopters in here. The rumors re the successor to the A99 seems very intriguing between the potential IBIS, same big mp sensor, and Z shift. The IBIS and Z Shift seems like they would be completely game changing. The full sized body also wouldn't be a deterrent for me since I wouldn't be looking for a small package as I am more focused on absolute best feature set and IQ regardless of dimensions. Are any of you going to consider the updated body (considering price range, etc)?

 

[J.R.]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone in here adapted EF when lenses to the A7? Seems like most of the stuff I find is for people adapting them to the 7r.

Hi John,

Somehow the A7 doesn't make sense to me. A7R gives me high MP + DR which I will use till canon comes up with its own high MP/DR camera.

I'm not sure I'm looking for a light weight camera system. I'm healthy enough to get around with my Canon system right now... Maybe when I am 70 i'll need it.

 

[Cali_PH]

For those of you considering these cameras, Focus Camera and B&H are running promotions to get $300 credit for used cameras traded in when you buy the A7 or A7r.

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/extended-trade-in-any-used-camera-and-get-300-for-the-a7-a7r/

Rented the A7r during a trip through Utah & Arizona; think I may jump on this myself if they'll take one of the p&s I no longer use. Will try to post some shots in the A7/A7r thread later when I get home.

 

[JohnDizzo15]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone in here adapted EF when lenses to the A7? Seems like most of the stuff I find is for people adapting them to the 7r.

Hi John,

Somehow the A7 doesn't make sense to me. A7R gives me high MP + DR which I will use till canon comes up with its own high MP/DR camera.

I'm not sure I'm looking for a light weight camera system. I'm healthy enough to get around with my Canon system right now... Maybe when I am 70 i'll need it.

My curiosity lies in whether the AF would be any faster if the EF lenses were coupled with the PDAF of the a7 since the 7r is without it. I am personally probably in the same boat as you with wanting maximum res, DR and sharpness if I were to add one of these to the bag.

I was looking for a lightweight system when I picked up the xe2 but decided that I am good with just the x100s most of the time when I need a light pick and up and go cam. I've decided that my wants now are for a system that just gives me maximum IQ at the lower ranges for when I'm shooting things that give me the time to do so regardless of size (but still keeping price in mind ;D).

 

[drjlo]

For those of you considering these cameras, Focus Camera and B&H are running promotions to get $300 credit for used cameras traded in when you buy the A7 or A7r.

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/extended-trade-in-any-used-camera-and-get-300-for-the-a7-a7r/

Rented the A7r during a trip through Utah & Arizona; think I may jump on this myself if they'll take one of the p&s I no longer use. Will try to post some shots in the A7/A7r thread later when I get home.

I bought from Focus Camera because that $300 for any camera trade-in, even a non-working point-and-shoot, is stackable on top of the $650 ($200 without flash) Sony instant rebate, leading to $950 total off the package (body+lens+sony flash). Granted, that Sony flash is the HVL60M, which has known overheating issues similar to Nikon SB900, but it is still a top-of-the-line Sony flash and should work fine for casual use without continuous flashes. If needing continuous flashing, SPTS will repair it for $100. http://www.sp-ts.com/

One last thing, Focus Camera website does NOT list a package with body+flash+FE55mm, only one with FE35mm. So if you want the 55 mm in package, call focus camera and point them to their eBay listing package and order that one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291079850904?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

[RGF]

If I bite on the Sony A7R, I would want to get a Nikor 14-24, since the Canon 16-35 is not exactly the sharpest lens on the block.

Does anyone experience with this combo? Or any reviews on to adapt the 14-24 to the Sony?

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone in here adapted EF lenses to the A7? Seems like most of the stuff I find is for people adapting them to the 7r.

Also, kind of off topic but figured I would pose the question since there are plenty of Sony adopters in here. The rumors re the successor to the A99 seems very intriguing between the potential IBIS, same big mp sensor, and Z shift. The IBIS and Z Shift seems like they would be completely game changing. The full sized body also wouldn't be a deterrent for me since I wouldn't be looking for a small package as I am more focused on absolute best feature set and IQ regardless of dimensions. Are any of you going to consider the updated body (considering price range, etc)?

Yes, I have used all of my EF lenses, (as well as Sigma 15-500 OS, Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC and Rokinon 24 f/3.5 T/S lenses) with the metabones adapter on my Sony a7.
It auto focuses on all of those lenses (except for 50 f/1.4 ... and Rokinon is manual anyway) ... all of my lenses autofocused as quick/slow as the EOS-M ... on one of the Sony a7 threads I shared my experience using those lenses as well as Kenko extension tubes (coupled with metabones) ... the good thing about the metabones+Sony a7 combo is that it is very quick to focus, if you use the focus peaking feature.

No matter how low the price is for the updated a99, I would not touch it with a ten foot pole ... I do not like Sony SLT cameras and I really like my Canon system for everything ... but I will buy the Sony a6000, when it is available at B&H, for its compact size ... till then I really like my Sony a7.