Mobius by Vincent Laforet on the EOS C300

[HurtinMinorKey]

People want tech that looks good right now. And there is reason to believe that the C300 looks better than the red at 1080, so it can still compete in the format that's currently most in demand. Clearly there are problems with Red's sensor if directors need to adjust makeup and set design to account for it, and it doesn't seem to be a problem that can be fixed in post, even in RAW.

I like the Red concept. But I've been disappointed at the quality of the feature films I've seen shot on it.

Also, I think the people working at RED certainly were not laughing, and their actions support this notion. Because at the end of the day, the Red Scarlet is just a nerfed version of the old Red Epic. After all that time, that's their new technology?????? That should have taken them 2 days, not two years.

Lets face it, RED knew Canon was jumping into the game; but Red was nowhere close to feasible new technology, so they decided to rename old technology and just throw it out there.

 

[docrender]

...I like the Red concept. But I've been disappointed at the quality of the feature films I've seen shot on it...

Which one is the most disappointing? I think RED ONE is already almost 30% of mainstream productions. EPIC will be a good successor than. 1080P useless for feature no matter what, but OK we can shoot descent video with iPhone 4s as well )) And it is 1080P.

 

[docrender]

CANON completely obsolete PRO market for last 3 years. They suppose to be way farther then they are now. They do have everything to be not just the best imagine company but like way beyond that. At least they start looking again in this direction. This is great for everyone

 

[HurtinMinorKey]

Which one is the most disappointing? I think RED ONE is already almost 30% of mainstream productions.

You think wrong then...

As I said on another thread. Compare the "Social Network"(RED) to "Fight Club"(FILM).
It's the same Director, and same DP on both. The Social Network looks like sh*t in comparison.

 

[docrender]

Agreed. Social Network looks not that nice - maybe it lack of post production? Don't you think they want it to be the way it is? And it is a lots of nice looking movies on market anyway Shoot on RED.

 

[Jedifarce]

You think wrong then...

As I said on another thread. Compare the "Social Network"(RED) to "Fight Club"(FILM).
It's the same Director, and same DP on both. The Social Network looks like sh*t in comparison.

That's a bit of a simplistic comparison is it not? Just looking at production costs alone, the Fight Club when adjusted for inflation in 1999 cost close to 30 million dollars more than the price tag to put out the Social Network.

 

[HurtinMinorKey]

You think wrong then...

As I said on another thread. Compare the "Social Network"(RED) to "Fight Club"(FILM).
It's the same Director, and same DP on both. The Social Network looks like sh*t in comparison.

That's a bit of a simplistic comparison is it not? Just looking at production costs alone, the Fight Club when adjusted for inflation in 1999 cost close to 30 million dollars more than the price tag to put out the Social Network.

I don't think it is.

1. Sure, shooting on RED can save you a bunch of money(especially since Fincher likes to do 100 takes for everything), but my point was that even thought RED is 4K, the picture doesn't look so hot, especially when compared to film. So since they haven't proved they can make 1080p look like film yet, let's not get ahead of ourselves and call anything that doesn't output in 4k "obsolete".

2. The budget disparity is exaggerated by the fact that Fight Club had Brad Pitt and Edward Norton, whereas the Social Network had Jessie Whatshisname and Mara Whatsherface.

 

[docrender]

Same sensor as DSLR (less pixels, actually), older GPU, no mechanical shutter, no Lens Reflex mechanism? At least suppose to be just a fraction of D1 X price, like 3-4 K$

W H Y 20K$ ????!!!! W T F???

Because it looks so sexy