Moderators: You are Too Sensitive

[FatDaddyJones]

Most forum software deletes all posts and threads that were made by a banned member. Other posts in the same thread are "collateral damage." It's too much work to remove them all manually, and the threads usually wouldn't make sense anyway with some of the posts being removed.

 

[sanj]

"The point was that it should be left up to the discretion of the site moderators as to what is allowed and not allowed"

I do not like the sound of that. Nope. As then it is not evenly fair. Please read MANY more fights on this forum which have not been deleted as the moderators did not find them wrong.

"There has to be rules". I like that. Then it is even for all...

In any case he is not my friend nor was the post important. Am out of here...

Peace!

 

[Larry]

That post had NO "theorem"!

My question was not about the offending post, but rather about previous threads which, according to the moderator were "worthwhile".

To Moderator - Thanks for the quick response.

 

[FatDaddyJones]

"The point was that it should be left up to the discretion of the site moderators as to what is allowed and not allowed"

I do not like the sound of that. Nope. As then it is not evenly fair. Please read MANY more fights on this forum which have not been deleted as the moderators did not find them wrong.

"There has to be rules". I like that. Then it is even for all...

In any case he is not my friend nor was the post important. Am out of here...

Peace!

I never said it was fair. But someone has to make the decisions, even if it is subjective. In this case, he broke the rules that were posted for this forum, so this wasn't just a subjective judgment.

 

[Patrick]

Almost sorry that I missed that thread!

 

[And-Rew]

I thought the only thing that upset Americans was gun control!

Seriously though, as daft as the post was, it provided a talking point over values and morals etc. I didn't see the racist comment - but sadly, i have to agree that such comments have to be deleted and the Member banned.

Disagreeing with some one is one thing, even sarcasm is tolerable, but offensive hatred in any form is just not acceptable. There always has to be a line - and once crossed - should not be surprised to see action taken to remedy the infringement.

For those demanding Free Speech - remember that free speech carries with it the duty of respect. If you can't treat people with respect, you forego the right to free speech

 

[Faxon]

I am in favor of the moderators rejecting posts that do not relate to Canon cameras or photography. The deleted thread seemed to be only about the family problems of the poster, and made me feel quite uncomfortable seeing it here. If my son dropped my lens or something, I might post asking about repair or selling for salvage, perhaps, but I certainly would not use this space to recreate my angry response to the accident. I really enjoy this forum, almost as much as I enjoy thumbing through Shutterbuy or Pop Photo.

 

[Click]

Well, I still think an Eos-5D MarkIII would have been the better choice..................

+1

ROFL ;D

 

[Marsu42]

Most western countries, with the exception of the USA, have enacted hate crime legislation, legislation which also covers "hate speach". Here in Canada, it also applies to internet activity and those running a website can be liable for what others post on it. Obviously, other countries differ to various degrees.... and this is an international forum and things get nebulous...

Indeed, and while I I guess US law would apply to CR I can only comment on Germany: Over here it's pretty easy to get sued for "Volksverhetzung" when posting nationalsocialist propaganda and emblembs, but other than that most recent trials ended up supporting the freedom of speech, again idiotic as the content may have been.

Completely separate from this fact is that most forum admins rather delete when in doubt than pay a ~€1000 fee just for freelance lawyers threatening to sue them, even if the trial most likely would end in the forum owner's favor. But there is a law in the making limiting these lawyer's fees, so there's hope that the balance will be restored.

 

[Area256]

Rules for posting on the internet......

Imagine you are standing in the middle of an intersection and you are about to shout something out to the world.... On one corner is your family.... spouse, children, parents, etc... On the second corner there is a group of policemen, judges, and lawyers.... On the third corner are your friends and aquaintences.... On the fourth corner is your boss and co-workers.... and behind you is the criminal element and in front an assortment of religious leaders.... If it's still a good idea to shout whatever it is out, then it is safe to be posted on the internet.

that post failed on so many levels......

+1

I am in favor of the moderators rejecting posts that do not relate to Canon cameras or photography. The deleted thread seemed to be only about the family problems of the poster, and made me feel quite uncomfortable seeing it here. If my son dropped my lens or something, I might post asking about repair or selling for salvage, perhaps, but I certainly would not use this space to recreate my angry response to the accident. I really enjoy this forum, almost as much as I enjoy thumbing through Shutterbuy or Pop Photo.

+1

Personally I'm also glad that thread was deleted. These forums should be about photography and our random gear talk - mature (and sometimes passionate, but polite) debates about lenses, cameras, photography techniques, company polices, best stores to buy from, ect. are what belongs here. No need to have the forums polluted with trolling posts, clearly intended to offend or provoke. It doesn't make for a welcoming place to talk about our collective hobby or profession.

 

[serendipidy]

I read every post on that thread and even replied several times trying to help the obviously seriously disturbed OP (I made the comment about sending his wife roses). At the end, he finally admitted (as many of us suspected) to being a troll whose only purpose posting was to amuse himself by seeing how much he could make fools of anyone on this forum and to get even for an earlier perceived slight to a previous post.

His OP had almost nothing to do about photography but was about a personal and family situation. Most of the replies also were really not about photography. Like rpt said...no theorems here. I like this forum due to it's congenial tone and helpful knowledgeable members who teach and share their knowledge. His last post was full of obscenities (spelled out with initials) attacking a person of "middle eastern" origin who sold his wife the camera.

I wish to thank the CR moderator/s for removing this trash. I wish it had been done earlier but I think they tried to give the OP every benefit of a doubt and his final post showed his true colors. Allow too much of this type of rubbish to pile up here and I think a lot of posters will go elsewhere.
If that's what a person wants, they could look for a forum called "I'm a jerk troll who likes to cause as much acrimonious fighting and trouble as I can".

 

[distant.star]

If that's what a person wants, they could look for a forum called "I'm a jerk troll who likes to cause as much acrimonious fighting and trouble as I can".

I tried that forum for a while -- didn't really care for it.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Indeed, and while I guess US law would apply to CR

Nope, CR is in Canada. Those who post are responsible for their own posts, but the moderators try to make it a plesant place to carry on reasonable conversations about photography.
They even let some of the US citizens like Neuro and myself post here. My son was born in Toronto and has a Canadian father, so I guess that makes me part Canadian - eh

 

[Loswr]

Indeed, and while I guess US law would apply to CR

Nope, CR is in Canada. Those who post are responsible for their own posts, but the moderators try to make it a plesant place to carry on reasonable conversations about photography.
They even let some of the US citizens like Neuro and myself post here. My son was born in Toronto and has a Canadian father, so I guess that makes me part Canadian - eh

...and my mom was born in Regina and is still a Canadian citizen with permanent resident status in the US. Maybe we should start a conspiracy theory about a requirement for a 'Canadian connection'...

 

[serendipidy]

In college one summer, I worked for Canada Dry Bottling Co. Does that count? ;D

 

[jp121]

I read the OP and couldn't really understand the whinge. I didn't read past the first page.

My first thought was WOW what a great wife & kid and what a fantastic family. Most people have lost count of how many useless/thoughtless presents they have received over the years. You have an amazing thoughtful family and you're complaining to the world! I wondered how they felt, after they put in so much effort, and spent so much money.

My second thought was it's not the camera but the person behind the camera. The camera (especially these 2 juggernauts: 5DM3 vs 1DX) is the least limiting factor to capturing great images.

I couldn't read anymore.

About this thread:

American "freedom of expression" is used to override the laws of defamation and put forth a message of hatred. We are not all American and don't have that legal freedom. As was previously mentioned, some of us do however have a legal obligation to quash acts/messages based on hatred.

However if people would take a moment to construct their messages. They would find that there are many ways convey the same sentiment and with the same gravity to get their point across (or float their boat).

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

In college one summer, I worked for Canada Dry Bottling Co. Does that count? ;D

Check out the history of the company, your citizenship will be really difficult to prove. Canada Dry seems to have been passed around from Company to Company over the years. You are as of now, a Texan.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

It is amusing to note that those who claim that this is a photogrpahy forum and that they come here to know/learn photography and that there is no room for this, that and the other are still replying/posting in this "supposedly useless" thread, when there is nothing of photographic value here or in any such similar threads ;D ... I mean if one thinks the egg is rotton from the first bite, does one have to eat the whole egg to make sure it really is rotton!
Ironically these "supposedly useless" threads somehow seem to go on and on, largely thanks to those who claim they do not like these kind of posts/threads. ;D

 

[AprilForever]

Indeed, and while I guess US law would apply to CR

Nope, CR is in Canada. Those who post are responsible for their own posts, but the moderators try to make it a plesant place to carry on reasonable conversations about photography.
They even let some of the US citizens like Neuro and myself post here. My son was born in Toronto and has a Canadian father, so I guess that makes me part Canadian - eh

...and my mom was born in Regina and is still a Canadian citizen with permanent resident status in the US. Maybe we should start a conspiracy theory about a requirement for a 'Canadian connection'...

I once dated a girl from Quebec... I suppose I count?

 

[serendipidy]

Indeed, and while I guess US law would apply to CR

Nope, CR is in Canada. Those who post are responsible for their own posts, but the moderators try to make it a plesant place to carry on reasonable conversations about photography.
They even let some of the US citizens like Neuro and myself post here. My son was born in Toronto and has a Canadian father, so I guess that makes me part Canadian - eh

...and my mom was born in Regina and is still a Canadian citizen with permanent resident status in the US. Maybe we should start a conspiracy theory about a requirement for a 'Canadian connection'...

I once dated a girl from Quebec... I suppose I count?

Only if you kissed her ;D

@Rienzphotoz...no fair using logic

@Mt Spokane...Texas? I had no idea.