More Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II Talk [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

We’re told that the eagerly anticipated Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L II is now being tested by select photographers and should be to market within the next 6 months. An announcement date hasn’t yet been set, but expect it some time in 2015.</p>
<p>The new lens will have the latest coatings from Canon, dust and weather resistant, a smaller filter thread (67mm?), and will be physically longer than the current version. The difference in weight wasn’t known, but I suspect it’ll be very close to the current lens.</p>
<p>More to come…</p>

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Filter thread 67mm (less than the current), ??? and longer than the current one?

A clone 35mm Sigma Art.

 

[ScottyP]

Filter thread 67mm (less than the current), ??? and longer than the current one?

A clone 35mm Sigma Art.

Except for the small matter of price, perhaps. The current Canon lens is already twice the price of the Sigma. They will undoubtedly feel the urge to increase the price if they are doing a full re-design of the lens (unlike the new 50mm where they did show admirable price restraint, but also the lens is optically the same).

 

[brad-man]

Filter thread 67mm (less than the current), ??? and longer than the current one?

A clone 35mm Sigma Art.

Except for the small matter of price, perhaps. The current Canon lens is already twice the price of the Sigma. They will undoubtedly feel the urge to increase the price if they are doing a full re-design of the lens (unlike the new 50mm where they did show admirable price restraint, but also the lens is optically the same).

I doubt the new Canon will improve upon the optics of the Sigma, so how much are you willing to pay for weather sealing and Canon AF?

 

[Luds34]

I doubt the new Canon will improve upon the optics of the Sigma, so how much are you willing to pay for weather sealing and Canon AF?

That's the $64k question. Weather sealing not so much, but focus. I really want a fast 35mm prime for my 6D and I've been tempted to pull the trigger on a 35mm Art off Craigslist but Sigma focus still has me nervous.

Here's hoping the Sigma has put pressure on Canon and this thing debuts at "reasonable" price.

 

[Viggo]

"How much are you willing to pay for weather sealing and Canon AF?" ANYTHING they ask, quite simply. If Canon made the 50 Art with Canon AF, I would pay 5000 dollars for it.

 

[ScottyP]

"How much are you willing to pay for weather sealing and Canon AF?" ANYTHING they ask, quite simply. If Canon made the 50 Art with Canon AF, I would pay 5000 dollars for it.

The weather sealing is meaningless to me but the AF is important. I have read that you had bad luck with Sigma 35's (or was it the 50's?), but fortunately I definitely did not. My 35 Art nails focus quickly and dependably, and of course the optics are incredible for color, contrast and sharpness.

 

[Viggo]

"How much are you willing to pay for weather sealing and Canon AF?" ANYTHING they ask, quite simply. If Canon made the 50 Art with Canon AF, I would pay 5000 dollars for it.

The weather sealing is meaningless to me but the AF is important. I have read that you had bad luck with Sigma 35's (or was it the 50's?), but fortunately I definitely did not. My 35 Art nails focus quickly and dependably, and of course the optics are incredible for color, contrast and sharpness.

It was actually 2x 35 Art and 2x 50 Art, all four with the same issue. I'm beginning to think that it might be a 1dx issue, because I know a few 5d3 owners that are very happy with them, and no 1dx owner that is happy with them.

 

[TommyLee]

ajfotofilmagem......you beat me to it...
ha!

description sounds familiar.....
I always swore I would get the new 35L mk II .......IFF it wasa good bit better than my sigma...
.......which beat up the 35L mk I......


67 mm, longer?....that's a start


my sig 35 focuses fine on a 5D3.....
the 50mm looks less reliable from reports...but I dont know ....about that real performance...
just my reliable sig 35

Tom

 

[sagittariansrock]

With all the talk about the mark II, and the exceptional 24-70 II in my arsenal, I was almost tempted to put my 35/1.4 on Craigslist. However, last week I visited the Portland Rose festival and the amazing portraits I was able to get at f/1.4-1.6 made me change my mind.

I don't know what I will gain from weather sealing, and I don't think the AF and image quality on the Canon 35/1.4 can be much improved upon. So I suppose I am definitely not going to be one of the early adopters of the mark II.

 

[niels123]

"How much are you willing to pay for weather sealing and Canon AF?" ANYTHING they ask, quite simply. If Canon made the 50 Art with Canon AF, I would pay 5000 dollars for it.

The weather sealing is meaningless to me but the AF is important. I have read that you had bad luck with Sigma 35's (or was it the 50's?), but fortunately I definitely did not. My 35 Art nails focus quickly and dependably, and of course the optics are incredible for color, contrast and sharpness.

It was actually 2x 35 Art and 2x 50 Art, all four with the same issue. I'm beginning to think that it might be a 1dx issue, because I know a few 5d3 owners that are very happy with them, and no 1dx owner that is happy with them.

Here's an owner of the 5d3, the 7d2, the 24A, the 35A and the 50A.

the 24A and 35A work fine on both 5d3 and 7d2. The 50A is a bit inconsistent on both camera's, but it's still very usable for me. What I experience in 'real life' is also confirmed by the FoCal focus reliability tests that I have done with all six combinations.

 

[Machaon]

I doubt the new Canon will improve upon the optics of the Sigma, so how much are you willing to pay for weather sealing and Canon AF?

With those wide-aperture lenses & narrow DOF, high reliability AF certain becomes more valuable.

Not much point buying an f/1.4 lens that misses focus half the time when you're wide open.

 

[vscd]

For me the weathersealing is very important as I really like to go out for streetphotography in the rain. I don't know why Sigma isn't able to include some rubberelements into it, but it seems it's not that easy anyhow.

 

[niels123]

For me the weathersealing is very important as I really like to go out for streetphotography in the rain. I don't know why Sigma isn't able to include some rubberelements into it, but it seems it's not that easy anyhow.

What body do you use? Canon told me that even on the 5D3 and 1D X, there is no warranty on weather sealing and that they highly recommend to keep both camera's out of the rain...

 

[TeT]

I doubt the new Canon will improve upon the optics of the Sigma...

I bet you are wrong... The current 35 2 IS is better than the sigma in the mid range apertures. I imagine the 35 L II will not take a backseat to the sigma in any aspect outside of price.

 

[Viggo]

For me the weathersealing is very important as I really like to go out for streetphotography in the rain. I don't know why Sigma isn't able to include some rubberelements into it, but it seems it's not that easy anyhow.

What body do you use? Canon told me that even on the 5D3 and 1D X, there is no warranty on weather sealing and that they highly recommend to keep both camera's out of the rain...

Perhaps no warranty, but considering the conditions I've used my 1-series cameras in, no doubt it works. I once took out an 85 L II in the rain, and after 50 meters walking, I had to return home and dry it off. Never experienced that with any sealed L-lens.

 

[meywd]

For me the weathersealing is very important as I really like to go out for streetphotography in the rain. I don't know why Sigma isn't able to include some rubberelements into it, but it seems it's not that easy anyhow.

What body do you use? Canon told me that even on the 5D3 and 1D X, there is no warranty on weather sealing and that they highly recommend to keep both camera's out of the rain...

Perhaps no warranty, but considering the conditions I've used my 1-series cameras in, no doubt it works. I once took out an 85 L II in the rain, and after 50 meters walking, I had to return home and dry it off. Never experienced that with any sealed L-lens.

I still didn't try the 5D3 in the rain, however I once took the 600D + 50mm 1.8 II out in the snow for a 30 min walk around the block, it was snowing and the snow was melting on the camera, however nothing happened, and when I arrived home I kept it in a cool area until it dried, but yeah a weather sealed lens is less risky.

 

[vscd]

What body do you use? Canon told me that even on the 5D3 and 1D X, there is no warranty on weather sealing and that they highly recommend to keep both camera's out of the rain...

For most street+wet shootings I use an EOS 1n and some black/white rolls. The EOS 1n is rated for 1/3 inch of rain, so this is really strong rain but no tornado As the 5DM3 is announced to be at least equal to the EOS1n I think there should be really no problem with the body under any circumstances. I had my own doubts about it but as the (old) body only costs about 100$ at ebay I tried it with intense rain and now I know you can do *anything with* it except of swimming. Just trust the engineers.

The successor EOS 1V was sealed far more than the 1n and is known to be nearly waterproof in any condition. I think the 1DX even tops that one out.

Some informations: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/eos/EOS-1n/Reliability/index.htm

 

[paulrossjones]

what are they changing the filter size? One of the nice things about the canon primes is that they almost all take 72mm (the 24,35,50, 85 and 135 primes).
this is a big deal for me, and I use a lot of ND's and filters, and having to have multiple sets is a pain.

not sure how they will improve on the sigma 35mm art though, its a very good lens and leaves my canon 35mm 1.4 in edge sharpness and lack of CA.
I have been using a 67 to 72mm step up on the sigma.

paul

 

[Pixel]

My 35 1.4L is the finest optic in my arsenal already. Other than weather sealing, I can't see where an improvement will come from.