x-vision said:Seriously, it would have been much cheaper and easier for me to upgrade to the 7DII.
So, in your specific case, the 7DII beats the D750.
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x-vision said:Seriously, it would have been much cheaper and easier for me to upgrade to the 7DII.
tiger82 said:x-vision said:Seriously, it would have been much cheaper and easier for me to upgrade to the 7DII.
So, in your specific case, the 7DII beats the D750.
neuroanatomist said:raptor3x said:East Wind Photography said:you know this no wifi thing has got me pondering a bit. If the rumor is true that multiple 7DII can sync time with each other, it would seem that they have to have some kind of wifi going there to make that happen. One could assume that a GPS enabled camera could get it's time from the GPS sats and all should be within 50 ms of each other. However it was specifically mentioned that the cameras can sync time together. That to me means some kind of wireless communication is going on. Wifi would be the easiest way to do that with current tech.
I'd lean more towards the camera having a built in radio commander that can act as a wireless trigger than a true wi-fi setup.
I'd lean more towards you needing to buy a WFT-E7 II for each camera on which you want to sync the time. I know you think I'm probably joking, I wish I could say that I was...
x-vision said:7DMarkIV said:This is not a troll attempt, i really would like to hear people's thoughts on the upcoming 7D Mark II when put up against the new Nikon D750.
Technically, the 7DII and the D750 are not supposed to be compared, as one is FF and the one is crop.
The two cameras will be close in price, though. So, they will both be under consideration for enthusiasts looking to step up from their current gear.
And to me at least, the D750 is much more appealing than the 7DII.
When Canon and Nikon announced their entry-level FF cameras, I was underwhelmed.
Despite the 'entry-level' moniker, these are still premium, expensive cameras.
And yet, except for the FF sensors, their specs are somewhat modest (especially the 6D).
The D750 fully addresses my concerns.
With a modern FF sensor and an advanced AF system, it's a camera that can last me for years.
Thus, the higher prices tag becomes justifiable for me.
I can't say the same thing about the 7DII.
I'm still a crop user and I was hoping that the 7DII would have an updated sensor.
From the rumored specs, though, the sensor doesn't promise to be a meaningful improvement.
So, despite the great specs, its appeal as an upgrade option for me is limited.
Not that I'll be switching to Nikon right away.
But it's very nice to know that there's a very appealing FF camera out there with specs that are tailored to my needs, basically.
And whenever I get the urge to switch to FF, I can do it without a second thought 8).
+1000. I couldn't have said it better myself.AvTvM said:Nikon 750D looks like the most affordable, decently capable, UNIVERSAL digital camera.
Exactly.Both 6D and D610 unfortunately are too crippled as serious, longer-term useful, UNIVERSAL cameras ...
Efka76 said:I am looking at Canon 7D MKII specs and I am quite surprised that Canon who is a leader in image making made such a poor job. The reasoning is as follows:
1) MKII version is released after 5 years!!!! This is extremely long period of time for technology makers.
2) 7D at release date was the best APS-C camera which was using breaktrough technology, however, looking at current 7D MkII specs I do not see any INOVATIONS.
3) Looking at current 7D MK II specs I see very little effort from Canon side:
a) Practically the same body design - no efforts in this area. I like this design but I am a bit surprised that Canon goes such way
b) 2 DIGIC 6 processors - it is very simple to replace DIGIC 4 processors with current DIGIC 6 processors. Absolutely no efforts required. I would have expected DIGIC 7 processors. Of course dual DIGIC 6 will bu much better than older processors.
c) AF technology form 1DX and dual pixel technology - no efforts from Canon side. They just simply included very good autofocus in this camera. I expected a bit more from them.
4) Sensor - everybody expected to see a new technology in this area, which would put Canon and Nikon sensors on the same plate. Now it is very big disappointment from Canon side.
By all means, the new 7D MkII will be extremely good camera with much better autofocus, better battery, GPS (personnaly GPS and WiFi are not needed features for me but RT technology would be useful). Canon could release such camera at least 2-3 years ago as we see that it just implemented a current technology in this camera but it lacks innovations which we see especially in Sony.
Will I buy this camera? Definitely not That's because my current 7D is very good camera, I am happy with AF abilities (mainly shoot weddings and studio) and have intentions to buy FF camera (5D MKIII or MK IV)
AvTvM said:x-vision said:7DMarkIV said:This is not a troll attempt, i really would like to hear people's thoughts on the upcoming 7D Mark II when put up against the new Nikon D750.
Technically, the 7DII and the D750 are not supposed to be compared, as one is FF and the one is crop.
The two cameras will be close in price, though. So, they will both be under consideration for enthusiasts looking to step up from their current gear.
And to me at least, the D750 is much more appealing than the 7DII.
When Canon and Nikon announced their entry-level FF cameras, I was underwhelmed.
Despite the 'entry-level' moniker, these are still premium, expensive cameras.
And yet, except for the FF sensors, their specs are somewhat modest (especially the 6D).
The D750 fully addresses my concerns.
With a modern FF sensor and an advanced AF system, it's a camera that can last me for years.
Thus, the higher prices tag becomes justifiable for me.
I can't say the same thing about the 7DII.
I'm still a crop user and I was hoping that the 7DII would have an updated sensor.
From the rumored specs, though, the sensor doesn't promise to be a meaningful improvement.
So, despite the great specs, its appeal as an upgrade option for me is limited.
Not that I'll be switching to Nikon right away.
But it's very nice to know that there's a very appealing FF camera out there with specs that are tailored to my needs, basically.
And whenever I get the urge to switch to FF, I can do it without a second thought 8).
I agree with you. 7D II really looks more like a specialized solution for focal length limited, good light action shooters (sports, wildlife, birds, etc.). Nikon 750D looks like the most affordable, decently capable, UNIVERSAL digital camera. While in Canon land, the "cheapest" such solution currently is a 5D III. Both 6D and D610 unfortunately are too crippled as serious, longer-term useful, UNIVERSAL cameras - if moving subjects and challenging lighting conditions are also encountered shooting scenarios.
AvTvM said:7D II really looks more like a specialized solution for focal length limited, good light action shooters (sports, wildlife, birds, etc.). Nikon 750D looks like the most affordable, decently capable, UNIVERSAL digital camera.
Sporgon said:I hope for the sake of those potential 7DII users the rear wheel doesn't feel like the 6D. I see it now has some four way function set inside it, it looks very much like the 6D outer wheel, but hopefully it won't feel like it to use.
x-vision said:7DMarkIV said:This is not a troll attempt, i really would like to hear people's thoughts on the upcoming 7D Mark II when put up against the new Nikon D750.
Technically, the 7DII and the D750 are not supposed to be compared, as one is FF and the one is crop.
The two cameras will be close in price, though. So, they will both be under consideration for enthusiasts looking to step up from their current gear.
And to me at least, the D750 is much more appealing than the 7DII.
When Canon and Nikon announced their entry-level FF cameras, I was underwhelmed.
Despite the 'entry-level' moniker, these are still premium, expensive cameras.
And yet, except for the FF sensors, their specs are somewhat modest (especially the 6D).
The D750 fully addresses my concerns.
With a modern FF sensor and an advanced AF system, it's a camera that can last me for years.
Thus, the higher prices tag becomes justifiable for me.
I can't say the same thing about the 7DII.
I'm still a crop user and I was hoping that the 7DII would have an updated sensor.
From the rumored specs, though, the sensor doesn't promise to be a meaningful improvement.
So, despite the great specs, its appeal as an upgrade option for me is limited.
Not that I'll be switching to Nikon right away.
But it's very nice to know that there's a very appealing FF camera out there with specs that are tailored to my needs, basically.
And whenever I get the urge to switch to FF, I can do it without a second thought 8).
The 6d IQ is outstanding and aside from AF points what is basic in the 6d? Ive used this camera at air shows, race tracks, concerts, travel photography, landscape, macro and been pleased with the results far more often than any other digital camera Ive owned.
neuroanatomist said:raptor3x said:I'd lean more towards the camera having a built in radio commander that can act as a wireless trigger than a true wi-fi setup.
I'd lean more towards you needing to buy a WFT-E7 II for each camera on which you want to sync the time. I know you think I'm probably joking, I wish I could say that I was...
raptor3x said:neuroanatomist said:raptor3x said:I'd lean more towards the camera having a built in radio commander that can act as a wireless trigger than a true wi-fi setup.
I'd lean more towards you needing to buy a WFT-E7 II for each camera on which you want to sync the time. I know you think I'm probably joking, I wish I could say that I was...
maybe they included the 1DX's Gigabit lan port?
Ugh, I'd really like to think that they'll include at least some basic RT functionality built into the body but you're probably correct.
AvTvM said:Both 6D and D610 unfortunately are too crippled as serious, longer-term useful, UNIVERSAL cameras - if moving subjects and challenging lighting conditions are also encountered shooting scenarios.
drmikeinpdx said:Just small incremental upgrades. Not much to show for all the years of development if you ask me. I'll skip the mark II, thank you.
Lee Jay said:drmikeinpdx said:Just small incremental upgrades. Not much to show for all the years of development if you ask me. I'll skip the mark II, thank you.
Since I skipped the 30D, 40D, 50D, 60D and 7D, this looks like a huge upgrade to me over the 20D I shot with (very successfully) all day today.
Don Haines said:Lee Jay said:drmikeinpdx said:Just small incremental upgrades. Not much to show for all the years of development if you ask me. I'll skip the mark II, thank you.
Since I skipped the 30D, 40D, 50D, 60D and 7D, this looks like a huge upgrade to me over the 20D I shot with (very successfully) all day today.
I'm shooting with a 60D and it looks like a huge upgrade
At the moment, we don't have a clue if Canon has addressed the noise problem or not.... I give it 50/50 odds. Rumours say a new sensor, yet at the same size as the 70D. It is possible that the 70D sensor was the first "kick at the cat" for an APS-C sensor with finer lithography and that the 7D2 builds on that sensor and adds in cleaner A/D... It would certainly make sense, but it is just a guess... We should find out in a week or so.Lee Jay said:Don Haines said:Lee Jay said:drmikeinpdx said:Just small incremental upgrades. Not much to show for all the years of development if you ask me. I'll skip the mark II, thank you.
Since I skipped the 30D, 40D, 50D, 60D and 7D, this looks like a huge upgrade to me over the 20D I shot with (very successfully) all day today.
I'm shooting with a 60D and it looks like a huge upgrade
My biggest question is, should I get a 70D or a 7DII? Some advantages for each. I'll wait for the announcement and first tests on the sensor of the 7DII before I make a decision.
Interestingly, I was considering between 70D & 6D versus 7DII & 5DIII. I like my 20D and 5D because they basically have the same user interface. But, for what I use it for, the 6D would actually probably be better than the 5DIII (WiFi would help at times, GPS would certainly help to keep the clock accurate, the low-light focusing point is probably more useful for me than the 5DIII's advanced super-fast focusing). So my wife basically told me to suck it up and get the 7DII and 6D, and just learn to handle the UI differences. Still thinking about that, but she probably has a point.
Lee Jay said:Since I skipped the 30D, 40D, 50D, 60D and 7D, this looks like a huge upgrade to me over the 20D I shot with (very successfully) all day today.
Don Haines said:At the moment, we don't have a clue if Canon has addressed the noise problem or not.... I give it 50/50 odds. Rumours say a new sensor, yet at the same size as the 70D. It is possible that the 70D sensor was the first "kick at the cat" for an APS-C sensor with finer lithography and that the 7D2 builds on that sensor and adds in cleaner A/D... It would certainly make sense, but it is just a guess... We should find out in a week or so.Lee Jay said:Don Haines said:Lee Jay said:drmikeinpdx said:Just small incremental upgrades. Not much to show for all the years of development if you ask me. I'll skip the mark II, thank you.
Since I skipped the 30D, 40D, 50D, 60D and 7D, this looks like a huge upgrade to me over the 20D I shot with (very successfully) all day today.
I'm shooting with a 60D and it looks like a huge upgrade
My biggest question is, should I get a 70D or a 7DII? Some advantages for each. I'll wait for the announcement and first tests on the sensor of the 7DII before I make a decision.
Interestingly, I was considering between 70D & 6D versus 7DII & 5DIII. I like my 20D and 5D because they basically have the same user interface. But, for what I use it for, the 6D would actually probably be better than the 5DIII (WiFi would help at times, GPS would certainly help to keep the clock accurate, the low-light focusing point is probably more useful for me than the 5DIII's advanced super-fast focusing). So my wife basically told me to suck it up and get the 7DII and 6D, and just learn to handle the UI differences. Still thinking about that, but she probably has a point.