New APS-C Camera in February?

[Canon Rumors]

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<p><strong>APS-C Before Full Frame?

</strong>Received word today, that the next planned DSLR announcement from Canon will be in February 2012. It’s a loose date and could happen at the end of January as well. The floods in Thailand are messing with parts availability.</p>
<p>It will most likely be a camera using the current 18mp sensor, with some modifications. Expect DIGIC V as well.</p>
<p><strong>Lenses?

</strong>I’m told from the same person we’ll see a lens announcement before the next DSLR. No word on what.</p>
<p><strong>Next “G”?

</strong>Again, the same person is saying the next “G” series camera will be a departure from what we have now.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[Woody]

Coool. My planned purchases include the next Rebel (T4i?) + 5D2 + 35 f/1.4L lens.

PS: I hope Canon has improved their sensor quality. Will really like them to match up to the sensors in the Pentax K-5 and Nikon D5100. Don't really care if they resort to in-camera RAW NR like their competition.

 

[gene_can_sing]

SWEET!!

I'm thinking since it's digic V, that means it will fix the moire / aliasing in the video. This is a long, long time coming for Canon video DSLR people.

This will get me by until the DSLR / video full frame hybrid comes out. Then the T4i will become a good B-Cam.

Oh yes, and please include 1080p 60fps like the latest Sony Alpha.

 

[gmrza]

It will most likely be a camera using the current 18mp sensor, with some modifications. Expect DIGIC V as well.

I am pretty certain that the first APS-C camera with a new sensor will be the 7DII (or whatever it is called).

Again, the same person is saying the next “G” series camera will be a departure from what we have now.

This is the interesting bit, and something I would like to hear more about. I do recall one comment from Canon saying that they would introduce a "small" product that would be "interesting" (I think that was the word) next year.
I hope that Canon move the G series towards something with a bigger sensor - to give better low light performance and shallow depth of field. That would be a strong motivation to replace my G11. A brighter lens would be nice as well - I do still like the f/2 that my G5 has at the wide end.

 

[wickidwombat]

A revision to the 7D would be awesome I would snap one up for sure

dual Digic V maybe if they keep 18 MP it will hit 10fps? maybe not if the shutter cant keep up
hope they keep the same battery
improve the sharpness and high iso
18MP is fine for me
maybe some tweeks to the AF system

 

[Loswr]

Last February it was the T3i announced from "Lake Success, N.Y.". What are the odds we'll see a repeat of that announcement? Or is this rumor simply predicated on past Canon announcements?

Even if it is, there's been a new Rebel/xxxD in 1Q for the past several years, so another one seems likely. I agree that it will use the same sensor (a three-peat for that sensor in the xxxD line), but with Digic5, and possibly the 3.2" LCD in the 1D X - that will likely be sufficient differentiation for the marketing department to run with.

 

[Rocky]

Hoe there there is micro adjustment for the AF. Canon shouild have make it as a standrd feature accross the entire DSLR line. With that, Canon can sell more fast lense.

 

[psycho5]

If Canon was smart they would outfit the 7Dii with a sensor with the same philosophy as the 1Dx... lower mp count with larger pixels! ;D

 

[gmrza]

If Canon was smart they would outfit the 7Dii with a sensor with the same philosophy as the 1Dx... lower mp count with larger pixels! ;D

Unfortunately, Sony has already set the bar, I think, in the APS-C space, with their recent 24MP offerings. Canon will have difficulty backing below 18MP, but hopefully won't go hunting higher resolutions.

Given than APS-C sensors use the "sweet spot" in the centre of the lens, they can get away with a bit more resolution, but they do become diffraction-limited sooner.

One benefit of 18MP is that it does give you a lot of lattitude for cropping.

 

[pj1974]

I'd like to see a 7D mk II with lower noise at all ISOs, same resolution (18 MP = fine for me), some AF tweaks maybe.

Canon, even though I don't use video much, if you could allow it to have full time AF while recording that would be good (and I'd use video more). Maybe a swivel screen to help filming bur more-so, for live-view / macros at odd angles!

My 7D serves me very well... I really don't need more than 7 or 8 fps (I like the 3fps and 8fps options). What would be handy is more than 3 bracketed exposures (eg up to 7 or 9).

Paul

 

[dstppy]

My vote:
A new 7D/60D . . . figure a 7D with articulating screen and Digic V . . . seriously, what else do you need? Oh yeah, and a metal internal body with plastic external so it's superior, yet people can complain -- before smiting, at least post and admit that's why you're doing it

 

[Meh]

If Canon was smart they would outfit the 7Dii with a sensor with the same philosophy as the 1Dx... lower mp count with larger pixels! ;D

If Canon was smart? I just checked, they are. Market cap is $53B, annual revenue $47B, annual income about $8B, $11B in cash, and most important of all... this site has 13,840 members who just can't get enough of Canon cameras! But seriously, I'm with gmrza, I think they'll stick to 18MP in the APS-C line and work on improving noise and DR just a touch.

 

[EYEONE]

Well, it's the new Rebel time of the year I guess. Wouldn't be too far out of line for it to be a 70D either.

But I still think we're too early for a 7DII... Well, I dunno. By summer of next year the 7D will be 3 years old. But it will be a very difficult camera to improve upon. As the Rebels are at this point.

 

[c.d.embrey]

Unfortunately, Sony has already set the bar, I think, in the APS-C space, with their recent 24MP offerings. Canon will have difficulty backing below 18MP, but hopefully won't go hunting higher resolutions.

The Sony 16Mp NEX 5n has a great sensor -- excellent color and low noise. I use mine strictly for video, 1080x1920 60P, 30P and 24P. If you like Auto Focus it does Face Recognition and Auto Follow Focus. If you like Manual Focusing, it has Focus Peaking just like a Broadcast video camera. If Sony can provide high-end features like this on a $600.00 camera, why can't Canon do it on their more expensive cameras???

Now I'm hoping that Canon's new APS-C will be competitive with the Nikon D400. If it isn't, I'll just keeping using my 40D.

 

[polpaulin]

if they could do a G with a bigger sensor ! actually the G is a total crap camera
and a new 50 mm 1.2 !!!

 

[kode]

Releasing an EOS 650D 25 years after the EOS 650? Quite believable, I say.

 

[RichST]

A very believable rumor, Sony has been outinnovating them for a while now and if it's costing them sales they surely aren't going to take it lying down. Digic V with better video is almost certain (I hope they get rid of the moire and increase detail before they try and get any bright ideas about 1080/60p; given the 1Dx's specs I'd say that's probably reasonable to assume). It would be nice to see built-in HDR but Canon seems hell-bent on making you do it by hand (which is sooo five years ago).

 

[dr croubie]

I'd be voting for a 650D, same 18MP sensor, maybe a digic5 to make upgrading worthwhile. I don't think there's anyone I know who's "upgraded" from a 550 to 600, but seeing as canon call the shots they can just discontinue the 550D, and then users upgrading from P&S or 1000D can choose the 600/650.

7D2 will almost definitely hve a new sensor, what it is i don't know. Either 18MP with a lot higher IQ than currently (larger pixels a la 1dx), or the same IQ-per-pixel as the current 7D with more of them (keeping pixel-size the same and fitting more in the same space). If it's 24mp or more current-7D-owners might upgrade, but either option would be a nice upgrade for 60D/xxxD-owners. Keep the rest of the features the same, there's nothing wrong with it.

I still think that there'll be another wildlifing body out to replace the 1D4, whether it's what the 1D5 should have been (18-21mp aps-h, same af, same body, 8-10fps), or it could be a high-mp aps-c (21-30, same af, same body, 8-10fps) for somewhere between 5D2 and 1D4 price.

But not yet, feb will be a 650D. (if there's a lens, please please please EFs 35/1.4)

 

[hambergler]

A very believable rumor, Sony has been outinnovating them for a while now and if it's costing them sales they surely aren't going to take it lying down. Digic V with better video is almost certain (I hope they get rid of the moire and increase detail before they try and get any bright ideas about 1080/60p; given the 1Dx's specs I'd say that's probably reasonable to assume). It would be nice to see built-in HDR but Canon seems hell-bent on making you do it by hand (which is sooo five years ago).

I agree on paper Sony may have the upper hand but in practice the A77 is way too noisy compared to the 7D, K-5 or D7000 which are relatively close with each other.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonyslta77/page14.asp

Just look at the RAW there is very visible noise even at 400 ISO

 

[Woody]

We will know in 2012 how well Sony really performed in 2011. FWIW, folks predicted Canon would do poorly in terms of market shares during 2010... but the truth just went the other way. Nikon's V1/J1 (not affected by the Thai floods since these are made in China) are not faring well in Japan, quite a surprise since small stuff are quite popular in Japan. I predict Canon will once again rule the 2011 market shares chart when the final numbers are released next year.

Personally, I am only interested in how well the new Canon 18 MP APS-C sensor performs.