New EOS M Camera & Lens Make an Appearance

ahsanford

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That looks super tiny. This almost looks like a step downmarket rather than upmarket. This isn't the droid we're looking for... :(

http://digicame-info.com/2015/10/eos-m-ef-m15-45mm-f35-63-is-st.html

http://photorumors.com/2015/10/07/this-is-the-new-canon-eos-mirrorless-camera-m4-with-a-new-ef-m-15-45mm-lens/

- A
 
Translated link:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdigicame-info.com%2F2015%2F10%2Feos-m-ef-m15-45mm-f35-63-is-st.html&edit-text=&act=url

From the direction of the reader, we have to provide an image of the new EOS M new lens is mounted.
Canon will soon new EOS M (name is unknown), it will announce the EF-M15-45mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM.
Details are unknown, but since the new EOS M, such as the simple and compact body, it sounds like the EOS M entry model of which had been rumored abroad. Since the lens is new 15-45mm F3.5-6.3 is attached, a possibility that this lens is the kit lens is a high likely.
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canon_new_eosm_f001.jpg
 
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rs said:
Translated link:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdigicame-info.com%2F2015%2F10%2Feos-m-ef-m15-45mm-f35-63-is-st.html&edit-text=&act=url

From the direction of the reader, we have to provide an image of the new EOS M new lens is mounted.
Canon will soon new EOS M (name is unknown), it will announce the EF-M15-45mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM.
Details are unknown, but since the new EOS M, such as the simple and compact body, it sounds like the EOS M entry model of which had been rumored abroad. Since the lens is new 15-45mm F3.5-6.3 is attached, a possibility that this lens is the kit lens is a high likely.
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Thank you for those who have sent images and information.

canon_new_eosm_f001.jpg

Yep. I'm seeing chatter of this being a 'Baby EOS-M'. Yikes. Downmarket it is.

- A
 
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ahsanford said:
Yep. I'm seeing chatter of this being a 'Baby EOS-M'. Yikes. Downmarket it is.

- A

That's where the bulk of the sales are, especially when it comes to cameras which are built from the ground up to be smaller than SLR's. Small, light and cheap. I wouldn't be surprised to see this become a huge success within Japan, and do well in many other markets too.
 
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ahsanford said:
That looks super tiny. This almost looks like a step downmarket rather than upmarket. This isn't the droid we're looking for... :(

http://digicame-info.com/2015/10/eos-m-ef-m15-45mm-f35-63-is-st.html

http://photorumors.com/2015/10/07/this-is-the-new-canon-eos-mirrorless-camera-m4-with-a-new-ef-m-15-45mm-lens/

- A

It's model name will be the EOS M0, since "4" is considered bad luck. Since the next model is a "0" (or "zero" for those lacking insight), it has to be a step down. Canon have decided that mirrorless is not the future and thus their strategy to fight against it is to produce pure junk that no one in their right mind would want to buy! ;)
 
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Tugela said:
ahsanford said:
That looks super tiny. This almost looks like a step downmarket rather than upmarket. This isn't the droid we're looking for... :(

http://digicame-info.com/2015/10/eos-m-ef-m15-45mm-f35-63-is-st.html

http://photorumors.com/2015/10/07/this-is-the-new-canon-eos-mirrorless-camera-m4-with-a-new-ef-m-15-45mm-lens/

- A

It's model name will be the EOS M0, since "4" is considered bad luck. Since the next model is a "0" (or "zero" for those lacking insight), it has to be a step down. Canon have decided that mirrorless is not the future and thus their strategy to fight against it is to produce pure junk that no one in their right mind would want to buy! ;)

The entire platform remains dead to me until I see an integral EVF and native EF-M lenses with USM. I just keep hoping each new version will offer that.

- A
 
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Give them some small credit here: a 15-something APS-C zoom is so much more useful than an 18-something APS-C zoom.

I have little idea why they keep pushing 18-55 for any reason other than cost.

- A
 
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ahsanford said:
Tugela said:
ahsanford said:
That looks super tiny. This almost looks like a step downmarket rather than upmarket. This isn't the droid we're looking for... :(

http://digicame-info.com/2015/10/eos-m-ef-m15-45mm-f35-63-is-st.html

http://photorumors.com/2015/10/07/this-is-the-new-canon-eos-mirrorless-camera-m4-with-a-new-ef-m-15-45mm-lens/

- A

It's model name will be the EOS M0, since "4" is considered bad luck. Since the next model is a "0" (or "zero" for those lacking insight), it has to be a step down. Canon have decided that mirrorless is not the future and thus their strategy to fight against it is to produce pure junk that no one in their right mind would want to buy! ;)

The entire platform remains dead to me until I see an integral EVF and native EF-M lenses with USM. I just keep hoping each new version will offer that.

- A

+1 on the integrated EVF.

However the USM is probably not needed. The 18-55 kit lens can focus quite fast, much faster then the original M focus system (and probably the M3 as well). There just is so little glass, not much weight, inertial to over come.
 
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Luds34 said:
+1 on the integrated EVF.

However the USM is probably not needed. The 18-55 kit lens can focus quite fast, much faster then the original M focus system (and probably the M3 as well). There just is so little glass, not much weight, inertial to over come.

I'm sorry, I meant a proper lens: internal focusing, nearly silent focusing, fast/consistent focusing, distance scale, etc. Those are always USM lenses, so I just associated the two. If an STM lens can focus 80% as quickly at USM and give me the above features, I'd consider it.

I just want something like the 24/28/35 IS lenses in the smaller EF-M footprint. Native EF-M without an adapter for best AF speed. Basically, a 7 out of 10 lens feature-wise. That's all I need. Doesn't need to be sealed or have a red ring.

But my criteria are higher than just 'small' and 'sharp'. Features and handling matter.

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put a touchscreen interface on the back, give it WiFi and the ability to connect to hotspots, and a simple browser (uploads to facebook and twitter) and I bet it will sell quite well.....

We have to remember that it is not the Pro cameras and "Big Whites" that keeps the lights on at the factory, it's the overwhelming sales of rebels and p/s cameras that makes the company profitable....
 
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rs said:
ahsanford said:
Yep. I'm seeing chatter of this being a 'Baby EOS-M'. Yikes. Downmarket it is.

- A

That's where the bulk of the sales are, especially when it comes to cameras which are built from the ground up to be smaller than SLR's. Small, light and cheap. I wouldn't be surprised to see this become a huge success within Japan, and do well in many other markets too.

Honestly, it's just a race to the bottom, similar to the smartphone market. I don't think there is much money to be made in small mirrorless systems. Japanese companies hold some very specific patents that shield them from globalisation, but those patents are about to expire.
 
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I still wish they would sell a round camera body the same size as the back cap.
It would turn pancake lenses into pancake cameras (at lest EF-M, EF lenses would be more of a hamburger camera), it would be great for most macro work on a tripod (where the less you touch the camera the better) and it would let the 400f5.6 fit in a water bottle pouch.
 
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This is why no pros will ever switch from a proper Canon DSLR to a mirrorless - just like all mirrorless cameras this looks utterly pathetic and will probably perform even worse. Probably better than those junk toy Sonys though.
 
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ablearcher said:
Don't they already have like three entry/basic level models (M, M2, M3)?? I thought that Canon dude recently said that Canon will be coming up with a serious mirrorless body everyone is waiting for. Is that it? How more basic they wanna go?

He probably thought that everyone was waiting for a dumbed down version, because everyone knows (at Canon HQ at least) that mirrorless cameras are for non-serious photographers.
 
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rs said:
ahsanford said:
Yep. I'm seeing chatter of this being a 'Baby EOS-M'. Yikes. Downmarket it is.

- A

That's where the bulk of the sales are, especially when it comes to cameras which are built from the ground up to be smaller than SLR's. Small, light and cheap. I wouldn't be surprised to see this become a huge success within Japan, and do well in many other markets too.

The M3 has been out for a while now, but in Japan the M2 is selling better than the M3...and the M2 is smaller, lighter, and cheaper. What does that tell Canon?
 
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