Is a G1X III still in the pipeline or has Canon abandoned this series?
thetechhimself said:I wouldn't call the G5X/G7X a replacement, but, all movements on behalf of Canon indicate 1" is "the" platform for Powershot G series going forward. G3X, G5X, G7X, G9X are all 1" Sony sensors. The G1X series is overdue for a refresh I might add.
There could be a G1X III, but, it may very well carry a 1", maybe with a faster lens than the G5/G7X. I'd be very surprised if the 1.5" sensor makes a return. If that answers your question.
powershot2012 said:Is a G1X III still in the pipeline or has Canon abandoned this series?
thetechhimself said:Indeed, that patent makes sense. I had a theory if Canon ever revived the G1X series it'd be an APS-C; they aren't going to make another custom 1.5" for a powershot, they'll reuse an APS-C.
Makes sense on a couple counts why now...
A. G1X II uses DIGIC6, I won't get too much into it, but needless to say they need DIGIC7 for a true refresh. It impacts AF performance, battery life, and movie capability too much to leave DIGIC6 in a G1X III, they needed to wait for 7.
B. They may use the latest APS-C tech, IE 80D sensor, that'd be interesting, but that takes some work to make it happen.
C. G1X II is long in the tooth now. It's optics were a bit if-y to begin with. If they improved them, albeit at the cost of some light on the tele end, that's an upgrade in my book.
Perhaps that rumor of a new PowerShot at Photokina could be a G1X III. Dunno. They'd fight for the same turf as the EOS M4 if they did release it same time. They'd both fight for my wallet too. I might buy both if both came out at the same time, and perhaps convert back to G1X turf if it's good enough. I loved my G1X II, it just didn't quite hold up enough IQ for me, especially when the EOS M and it's 22mm pancake hit the scene... Been EOS M2 and now M3 ever since.
thetechhimself said:Why not? 24MP APS-C sensor will make the 1" RX100 series seem antiquated
That said if they do that, it'll be expensive. They might do the 750D/760D/M3 sensor instead, a lot cheaper if so.
But, if they do the 80D sensor, in addition to better AF and ADC, imagine a DPAF Powershot, that'll make potential Nikon DL owners think twice, or even RX10 owners think twice as it'll be a phase detect Powershot vs contrast detect of the RX series, minus the RX1 II. Also nobody has yet to prove the 80D sensor can't do 4k readout, if they throw say DIGIC7/DIGIC7+ in there, it could do 4k.
Mt Spokane Photography said:I read thru the patent, as I recall, there were 5 examples, all had a 11.14 or slightly larger image height, so the sensor would have to fit in that 22mm image circle.
The G1X Image sensor is 18.70 X 14mm so it would fit. A Canon APS-C is 22.3 X 14.9mm and too large to have good coverage from the image circle.
So, this could very well be a lens for a G1X MK ??.
Here is the artists rendition of a camera
thetechhimself said:To your point, as I mentioned in the other thread, that it's common practice in the compact camera industry skip ever so slightly on the imaging coverage on the wide end of the imaging circle, and stretch the image with built-in firmware to compensate, even on the RAW.
thetechhimself said:I wouldn't call the G5X/G7X a replacement, but, all movements on behalf of Canon indicate 1" is "the" platform for Powershot G series going forward. G3X, G5X, G7X, G9X are all 1" Sony sensors. The G1X series is overdue for a refresh I might add.
There could be a G1X III, but, it may very well carry a 1", maybe with a faster lens than the G5/G7X. I'd be very surprised if the 1.5" sensor makes a return. If that answers your question.
The rumored powershot for Photokina is almost certain a G5X refresh, IE G5X II, which will probably be a G7X II with EVF and added dials.
thetechhimself said:Why not? 24MP APS-C sensor will make the 1" RX100 series seem antiquated
That said if they do that, it'll be expensive. They might do the 750D/760D/M3 sensor instead, a lot cheaper if so.
But, if they do the 80D sensor, in addition to better AF and ADC, imagine a DPAF Powershot, that'll make potential Nikon DL owners think twice, or even RX10 owners think twice as it'll be a phase detect Powershot vs contrast detect of the RX series, minus the RX1 II. Also nobody has yet to prove the 80D sensor can't do 4k readout, if they throw say DIGIC7/DIGIC7+ in there, it could do 4k.
XC15 costs 3000USD and same len as XC10thetechhimself said:powershot2012 said:Announcement coming soon or is this camera never going to materialize?
DC is reporting the LX200 is coming to PK if you must grab something newer.
G1X III is not coming to PK, it's a 5D centric PK this year.
Now that said, it may be coming later this year, like my M5 supposedly is. XC15 is coming shortly too. Obviously there is another Canon announcement after PK for at least the confirmed XC15, which may or may not have a new powershot coming. And to that point, which Powershot gets an update? Dunno. Canon is very secretive as of late.
powershot2012 said:Are we finally getting the G1X III?
http://thenewcamera.com/canon-g1x-mark-iii-camera-spotted-at-russian-certification-agency/
Image height 9.22 10.23 11.25, Canon's variable image height technology 8)powershot2012 said:Looking good!
An optical formula for a 12-60mm f/2-4 for 1.5″ sensors has appeared. Egami is suggesting this development could be for the PowerShot G1 X Mark II successor, as that lens is 12.5-65mm f/2-3.9.
Patent publication number 2016-212248 (Google Translated)
Release date 2016.12.15
Application date 2015.5.8
Zoom ratio 4.72
Focal length 12.84 20.16 60.62
F number 2.06 3.50 4.02
Half angle of view (degree) 41.74 28.80 10.33
Image height 9.22 10.23 11.25
Lens total length 83.06 84.07 101.55
BF 8.02 12.32 13.44
We expect to see some enthusiast PowerShot cameras announced in the very near future.
powershot2012 said:Is a G1X III still in the pipeline or has Canon abandoned this series?