Nikon Sales Rising
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Nikon did increase sales, but only by slashing prices. Sales increased 2.2% over the last 6 months, but profits dropped 36.9%.verysimplejason said:
Its difficult to compare Canon and Nikon figures, because they report the information differently.
However, looking at the same two periods, I have Canon sales off 3.1% and profits off 18.6%. So profit wise, they are not having to slash prices as much as Nikon, or they just have a bigger profit margin.
The next quarter is one that will be interesting, Spring and Christmas are the big sales quarters. If sales are slow, we will see even bigger sales.
Both Nikon and Canon know that its better to keep their skilled labor employed by cutting prices. It costs a lot to cut production by a drastic amount.
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Actually I am surprised at people saying that most anyone new to photography automatically jumps on the Nikon bandwagon. Not that their products are any bad, but this is not the reality I see.
In camera stores I find it not uncommon to see people being new to photography buying Nikon gear based on specs or usability preferences or whatever other reasons. Amongst people I know anyone actually taking a deep look at photography and asking photographers what they are using and how, ended up investing in Canon.
At the same time I know many shooting Nikon for years with good results not upgrading whatsoever, which I at first could not understand, because I expected people would have more than enough reason to upgrade, but those Nikon shooters were quite unwilling to upgrade their gear. Since many of those unwilling to join the megapixel rat race were shooting Nikon a couple of years back, it would actually be weird to expect the same people to throw their personal views overboard and now they should be all crazy about high megapixel cameras.
In camera stores I find it not uncommon to see people being new to photography buying Nikon gear based on specs or usability preferences or whatever other reasons. Amongst people I know anyone actually taking a deep look at photography and asking photographers what they are using and how, ended up investing in Canon.
At the same time I know many shooting Nikon for years with good results not upgrading whatsoever, which I at first could not understand, because I expected people would have more than enough reason to upgrade, but those Nikon shooters were quite unwilling to upgrade their gear. Since many of those unwilling to join the megapixel rat race were shooting Nikon a couple of years back, it would actually be weird to expect the same people to throw their personal views overboard and now they should be all crazy about high megapixel cameras.
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Most people new to photography end up buying bridge cameras with tiny sensors.
I think we're talking about people that are new to photography but are well informed or well advised. The kind of people that will later on buy some decent lenses and not a 18-300 superzoom. You can read it as: "anybody new to photography that comes to me for advice is going to end up with a Nikon or a Sony". And you may add to that: "and, as everybody else does, I presume other people are just like me".
I think we're talking about people that are new to photography but are well informed or well advised. The kind of people that will later on buy some decent lenses and not a 18-300 superzoom. You can read it as: "anybody new to photography that comes to me for advice is going to end up with a Nikon or a Sony". And you may add to that: "and, as everybody else does, I presume other people are just like me".
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The only thing I can see causing this are extremely high prices and a lack of innovation. I don't think the sensor stuff and DR stuff matters to the majority of DSLR users. I know quite a few pro-photographers and not one of them ever mentions dynamic range. It sounds like a lot of benchmarking tech geeks are on the message board. It reminds me of how people judge graphics cards by using 3DMark scores instead of actually using real games to judge their GPU. Even though I have a 5D3, in 2012 a camera should have built in wifi and usb 3.0 for $3500. I wonder how much these cameras actually cost to make and how much profit would they lose by adding little modern conveniences.
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My Wife and I run a photography business and own the D800/D800E and 2 X 5D mmiii and we use the D800 in the studio work mainly for product photography(with a tripod) and both of us prefer (and always grab) the 5D mmiii's when we are out on the road and need to move about quickly. They are far quicker to capture the moment. Both are excellent cameras.
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Whenever I head out to the mountains (Banff, Lake Louise), I tend to see the tourists sporting shiny new Nikon bodies with only the odd Canon thrown in. I always find that interesting.
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neuroanatomist said:
+1 AF performance will ALWAYS be my main priority.. I can have all the detail in the world, and a slightly (and I mean slightly) OOF image makes that advantage go away. I have literally hundreds and hundreds of images that are truly insane moments that the 1d X catches that no other camera has done before. It's not that it's just quick on the trigger , it focuses subjects and images one would haven't even bothered to try catching with other cameras. And when there's such moments that are just TOO insane movements up close at f1,4, it still only misses by a centimeter, and I couldn't expect anything to catch it perfectly, BUT set it in 12 fps mode and you still get one sharp of those WAY beyond moments...
But imho, the 1d X is the only camera Canon have gotten right since the 5d2, I mean as an upgrade. The mk4 only fixed what was terribly wrong and flawed with the 1d3 and the 5d3 is a fantastic camera, but makes no improvement in IQ.
And that would be easier to take if the prices wasn't ridicolous... I mean, here in Norway the price difference of the mk4 at launch and the 1d X at launch is 2200 USD.. And now TWICE the price for the 24-70 II that is more prone to flare, way less protection for the lens barrel, bigger more expensive filters. For that price it should be better in every aspect, not just almost all. Canon must make their new products better in EVERY way and launch at the same price as the old new.
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We have a small local Camera store which is actually run by photographers. They sell both Nikon and Canon. The owner tells me that Canon is much better to deal with than Nikon. As a result, he sells more Canon Cameras even though he is happy to sell you Nikon if he can get it. He did get a D800 for me, its a nice camera. Lenses and service are a different story.
I'm back to a 5D MK III, its just much more usable over a wide range of applications, and I use mine tethered to a pc for product photography a lot. Nikon loses big time there.
I'm back to a 5D MK III, its just much more usable over a wide range of applications, and I use mine tethered to a pc for product photography a lot. Nikon loses big time there.
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Let be honest with us ( Canon users)... we add in front better Canon specs compared with Nikon; like AF, speed etc.... and yes the AF, and speed of 5D3 is better than D800.
Let's face it... OVERALL, TODAY Nikon produce better DSLR cameras than Canon. and we can't do anything (except change brands).
Let's face it... OVERALL, TODAY Nikon produce better DSLR cameras than Canon. and we can't do anything (except change brands).
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
That's one area that's usually overlooked: if you're going to use the software that comes with the camera, Canon wins BY A HUGE MARGIN.
Canon's DPP is a joy to use, simple and effective. Nikon's ViewNX is a nightmare that takes ages to update the metadata on an image and crashes more often than any other piece of commercial software I've ever used.
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verysimplejason said:
how much moneys nikon did in the quarter? canon did over 900 millions usd...nikon in 6 months less than half of moneys with big hit compared with last year results while selling more...maybe they are spending a bit too much in r&d (licensing sensors from sony...lol)
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