No innovation by Canon
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Efka76 said:If we compare with Sony A7RII we will see that AF capabilities are much better in Canon, however, DR and MP are better in Sony. If Canon would buy Sony sensors and put them into Canon cameras we would definitely have the best cameras in the world. Now we will be waiting for Canon 1DxIII and will still expect some revolution from Canon))
It seems you haven't really paid attention to Sony's flaws. Canon made an on sensor readout, that doesn't overheat in 4K filming, unlike the Sony offerings. Canon may be slow, but they do things right. Thats a major reason to invest in Canon, over Sony. I for one, am happy with evolution over revolution.
And with regards to the DR, it remains to be seen which is better.
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Yeah..... next it will be revealed that Neuro has something to do with brains, where Mt. Spokane lives, and thatClick said:
ValveBounce is into motorsports.......
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Don Haines said:
and if there is any doubt, I'm into aviation...
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mackguyver said:And don't even get me started on LiveView
I like LiveView. I had an Olympus where the LCD display screen went black. Deadview sucks! I was so disgusted that I threw the camera away....
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No, Canon doesn't "innovate". No one really does.
What they do is deliver a new piece of technology. They push some boundaries. Some of those things are pretty predictable. So sure, there's nothing I know so far about the new EOS 1D X Mark II that I find surprising. Sure, it's got new capabilities, but with every other camera manufacturer pushing 4K video (at least UltraHD if not DCI-4K) down to below $1,000, it was only a matter of time before Canon had to, as well. Despite the fact they'd rather we did 4K on CinemaEOS cameras.
Is there any frightening, amazing feature? Nope. And this IS the flagship, after all. So pretty much, no, that would never happen on a flagship model. If they had debuted DualPixel on the flagship, yeah, that would dubbed innovation, just as it was on the 70D. Of course, there were also complaints about the lack of still photo improvements on the 70D. That's one reason why the scary stuff isn't likely to be tried on a flagship model.
But the other thing about innovation: it's a judgement over time. You can have a cool new feature, but if it's worthless in practice, no one's saying "Innovation". There are plenty of good ideas that wound up on the "worst of the year" lists, because they didn't deliver an idea, they delivered one specific implementation of an idea.
So when you read a new spec product preview sheet, you're of course looking for cool new stuff which may prove to be a real innovation. Or not. And you might actually miss the deeper tweaks which, sometimes, prove to be every-day valueable. Innovative, even.
What they do is deliver a new piece of technology. They push some boundaries. Some of those things are pretty predictable. So sure, there's nothing I know so far about the new EOS 1D X Mark II that I find surprising. Sure, it's got new capabilities, but with every other camera manufacturer pushing 4K video (at least UltraHD if not DCI-4K) down to below $1,000, it was only a matter of time before Canon had to, as well. Despite the fact they'd rather we did 4K on CinemaEOS cameras.
Is there any frightening, amazing feature? Nope. And this IS the flagship, after all. So pretty much, no, that would never happen on a flagship model. If they had debuted DualPixel on the flagship, yeah, that would dubbed innovation, just as it was on the 70D. Of course, there were also complaints about the lack of still photo improvements on the 70D. That's one reason why the scary stuff isn't likely to be tried on a flagship model.
But the other thing about innovation: it's a judgement over time. You can have a cool new feature, but if it's worthless in practice, no one's saying "Innovation". There are plenty of good ideas that wound up on the "worst of the year" lists, because they didn't deliver an idea, they delivered one specific implementation of an idea.
So when you read a new spec product preview sheet, you're of course looking for cool new stuff which may prove to be a real innovation. Or not. And you might actually miss the deeper tweaks which, sometimes, prove to be every-day valueable. Innovative, even.
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takesome1 said:
If you can't beat them develop a watch that produces a fragrance. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me
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CanonFanBoy said:RGF said:CanonFanBoy said:The new 1DX Mark II specs are out and I see from many posts that there is no innovation by Canon in this new camera. *sigh* C'mon Canon! (Weeping, wailing, and the gnashing of teeth ensues).
Why can't Canon get it together and give us all what we individually want in a single camera?
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The 1Dx M2 with 5DS resolution, 14 FPS, and the size of the 6D with the price of a rebel.
Did I get your wish list correct? Or did I miss something?
Yeah, you missed the sarcasm buddy. Best to read a few posts down on page 1.I'm a total Canon Fan Boy. "How you relate to the issue is the issue."
I am joining you sarcasm. Nothing is good enough for some people, perhaps if the 1Dx M2 was free they would be happy until Canon went out of business ...
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RGF said:CanonFanBoy said:RGF said:CanonFanBoy said:The new 1DX Mark II specs are out and I see from many posts that there is no innovation by Canon in this new camera. *sigh* C'mon Canon! (Weeping, wailing, and the gnashing of teeth ensues).
Why can't Canon get it together and give us all what we individually want in a single camera?
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The 1Dx M2 with 5DS resolution, 14 FPS, and the size of the 6D with the price of a rebel.
Did I get your wish list correct? Or did I miss something?
Yeah, you missed the sarcasm buddy. Best to read a few posts down on page 1.
I am joining you sarcasm. Nothing is good enough for some people, perhaps if the 1Dx M2 was free they would be happy until Canon went out of business ...
Only if it was free and had a Sony sensor. A
...and had an M.Fn3 button to release fragrance.
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Pookie said:
Spot on. I expect to get a 5DIV to replace my 6D. But its not a given.
My best guess is that the extra MPIX and much cleaner high iso I got with the 5DSR over my 5DII's will prove a bigger performance jump than what the 5DIV eventually will bring me over my 6D.
Would be nice to be wrong of course.
Meanwhile, I'm so very happy I got myself a 5DSR in stead of waiting for the 5DIV.
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Maiaibing said:
Smart thinking. My gear works fine and I'm far from mastering it. I think skipping a generation on bodies is smart. Especially for a hobbyist like me.
Lenses? I'm not sure how often they get updated, but I can't see myself replacing any that I have (except the 400mm). I'm much more likely to add one than replace one though.
I've found that Pookie gives excellent gear advice and I've been fortunate enough to follow it. If I can get within 75% of his knowledge and skill I'll be a happy man.
The 1DX mark II is on my list, but it will take me quite a while to save for it. I'll shoot for the end of the product cycle. I think I'd add a 400mm f/2.8L IS II or the 600MM before adding a camera and maybe even an updated 85mm L. It seems that good glass is where it is really at and Canon does a spectacular job in that dept.
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Sporgon said:takesome1 said:
If you can't beat them develop a watch that produces a fragrance. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me
Nikon is way behind the curve. I've had underwear that produces a fragrance for years and years. It keeps me safe in sketchy urban settings and repels bears when I'm shooting nature photos. In fact, there's a nature sensor. Soon as I step into the woods... the fragrance automatically kicks in. C'mon Nikon!
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