Official Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sample Images and Videos

https://www.focus-numerique.com/reflex/tests/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-3365.html

The french website focus numérique did several tests of the pre-production model.
They tested the dynamic range and their conclusion was the 6d has about the same DR as the 5D mark IV (about 6/7 Ev recovery range, under the 8Ev of the Sonys).

"Au final, le 6D Mark II semble présenter une latitude de travail assez proche de celle du 5D Mark IV, entre 6 et 7 IL. Dans ce domaine, les capteurs 24x36 de Sony dominent encore la concurrence et peuvent remonter des informations avec une plus grande souplesse."
 
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oh nooooes, so much for my hope that the 6D II's price will be dropping like no tomorrow and I order a couple of these at $1,000 each by Christmas
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D


CanonCams said:
https://www.focus-numerique.com/reflex/tests/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-3365.html

The french website focus numérique did several tests of the pre-production model.
They tested the dynamic range and their conclusion was the 6d has about the same DR as the 5D mark IV (about 6/7 Ev recovery range, under the 8Ev of the Sonys).

"Au final, le 6D Mark II semble présenter une latitude de travail assez proche de celle du 5D Mark IV, entre 6 et 7 IL. Dans ce domaine, les capteurs 24x36 de Sony dominent encore la concurrence et peuvent remonter des informations avec une plus grande souplesse."
 
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Why does everyone CARE about what the Canon 6D mk2 Naysayers Say?

I can make ANY camera look good if I (or YOU!) just Crop Hard,
lower your highlights by 10+%, raise your shadows by 10+%,
increase contrast by 5+%, add extra colour saturation of about
5% to 15% and finally add a 1.5 or 2 pixel Unsharp Mask
to your hopefully properly IN-FOCUS final image!

The below three photos were done on a mere 9 megapixel
seven year old CONSUMER POINT AND SHOOT camera AND
a smartphone cropped hard in Adobe Photoshop
and Corel Photopaint imaging programs!

Make it about the Photograph and the Photographer and NOT the camera!

So who CARES what camera you have! Focus on Framing, Focus and Iris
and let the image speak for itself! If you don't have enough light OPEN
the IRIS and de-noise later or even better yet....LIGHT THE NIGHT!
(i.e. use a flash or extra diffuse lighting!)

If I can do THESE PHOTOS on a smartphone and
point and shoot camera, image if you get a NEW
camera and LEARN HOW TO USE IT AND ALL ITS
FUNCTIONS PROPERLY! Imagine all the photos
you too can take if properly trained!
 

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sebasan said:
IQ = DR?
I think that the most funny thing you can read in these forums is people claiming that the 5D3 has very bad IQ, that statements show how much they know about IQ

But some people apparently believe just that, including some otherwise very rational and intelligent individuals (e.g., one poster who claimed the 5DIII has "...poor, sub-par, unacceptable IQ,").
 
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neuroanatomist said:
sebasan said:
IQ = DR?
I think that the most funny thing you can read in these forums is people claiming that the 5D3 has very bad IQ, that statements show how much they know about IQ

But some people apparently believe just that, including some otherwise very rational and intelligent individuals (e.g., one poster who claimed the 5DIII has "...poor, sub-par, unacceptable IQ,").

You forgot the bit about only being useable up to a 10 x 8 print ;D

Seriously though, the amount of people who consider DR to equal IQ is not even a tiny pimple on the hairy backside of humanity. I think Canon has done this to give the forums something to talk about again. Forum life had got so boring since Canon introduced a few cameras with on-chip ADC. I mean we had gravitated down to arguing about duel card slots for heavens sake , and there is no way to have so much fun in posting demonstrations of card failure as there is in concocting up specific scenario that demonstrates that another stop of shadow lifting ability improves your sex life, gets you a promotion at the office and works deepest, darkest voodoo on your unpleasant neighbour. ( Who shoots Canon). So I say happy times ahead ;)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
sebasan said:
IQ = DR?
I think that the most funny thing you can read in these forums is people claiming that the 5D3 has very bad IQ, that statements show how much they know about IQ

But some people apparently believe just that, including some otherwise very rational and intelligent individuals (e.g., one poster who claimed the 5DIII has "...poor, sub-par, unacceptable IQ,").

Sometimes it seems that some people was cheated with somebody with a 5D3 in the hand.
A user called Arbitage on fred miranda forum is the best example. So much lies only could be maintened if you were very emotionaly damaged, I can't find another reason.
 
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M42 said:
There are some reasons to be concerned with the dynamic range. Here are a couple of points :
First, a lot of people noted the following highlight on DPR hands-on preview : "When shadow areas are lifted by a couple of stops, there's no obvious banding, but noise becomes prominent". However, the previous sentence is much more revealing : "According to Canon representatives, the 6D Mark II should outperform the original 6D (which it very evidently does) but may not offer the same kind of dynamic range and absolute resolution of the EOS 5D Mark IV.".

Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model! It would appear that 6D2's DR is far less than that of 5DIV, which has a proven 4-stop noiseless shadow detail recovery.
 
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PhotoCat said:
M42 said:
There are some reasons to be concerned with the dynamic range. Here are a couple of points :
First, a lot of people noted the following highlight on DPR hands-on preview : "When shadow areas are lifted by a couple of stops, there's no obvious banding, but noise becomes prominent". However, the previous sentence is much more revealing : "According to Canon representatives, the 6D Mark II should outperform the original 6D (which it very evidently does) but may not offer the same kind of dynamic range and absolute resolution of the EOS 5D Mark IV.".

Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model! It would appear that 6D2's DR is far less than that of 5DIV, which has a proven 4-stop noiseless shadow detail recovery.

Are you trying to recover JPEG? I'm not sure if it has as much color information as a 14-bit RAW...
 
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Jopa said:
PhotoCat said:
Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model!

Are you trying to recover JPEG? I'm not sure if it has as much color information as a 14-bit RAW...

Wait, you mean I can't push my jpg images 2 stops? Oh no! Time to switch to Sony. ::)
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Jopa said:
PhotoCat said:
Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model!

Are you trying to recover JPEG? I'm not sure if it has as much color information as a 14-bit RAW...

Wait, you mean I can't push my jpg images 2 stops? Oh no! Time to switch to Sony. ::)

Actually I don't know... :) 8bit per channel (+ lossy compression) is a big difference compared to 14bit per channel lossless. I never pushed more than 2 stops my A7r2 files, otherwise they start looking pretty ugly. Same with Canon. I can't tell if Canon's files were 10% more ugly or so, but that doesn't make much difference. I know, I'm probably an old fashioned person since I don't push 5-6 stops, but I really prefer to take care of a correct exposure before snapping my pictures :)
 
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HarryFilm said:
Why does everyone CARE about what the Canon 6D mk2 Naysayers Say?

I can make ANY camera look good if I (or YOU!) just Crop Hard,
lower your highlights by 10+%, raise your shadows by 10+%,
increase contrast by 5+%, add extra colour saturation of about
5% to 15% and finally add a 1.5 or 2 pixel Unsharp Mask
to your hopefully properly IN-FOCUS final image!

The below three photos were done on a mere 9 megapixel
seven year old CONSUMER POINT AND SHOOT camera AND
a smartphone cropped hard in Adobe Photoshop
and Corel Photopaint imaging programs!

Make it about the Photograph and the Photographer and NOT the camera!

So who CARES what camera you have! Focus on Framing, Focus and Iris
and let the image speak for itself! If you don't have enough light OPEN
the IRIS and de-noise later or even better yet....LIGHT THE NIGHT!
(i.e. use a flash or extra diffuse lighting!)

If I can do THESE PHOTOS on a smartphone and
point and shoot camera, image if you get a NEW
camera and LEARN HOW TO USE IT AND ALL ITS
FUNCTIONS PROPERLY! Imagine all the photos
you too can take if properly trained!

Three thumbs UP!
 
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I am risking being flamed and labeled racist, but the requirement to pass photography 101 crash course and exams should be made compulsory for this forum (sufficient evidence of completion has to be produced) and only then allow posting on this resource. Or make all new forum members wearing high visibility jackets at all time or inscribe large and colorful letter "P" (probationary) on his forhead. sorry, cannot resist the urge :D


neuroanatomist said:
Jopa said:
PhotoCat said:
Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model!

Are you trying to recover JPEG? I'm not sure if it has as much color information as a 14-bit RAW...

Wait, you mean I can't push my jpg images 2 stops? Oh no! Time to switch to Sony. ::)
 
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You guys are kind of ridiculous. We know that DR does not equal IQ, but it is a component of IQ and one that is important to a lot of people. If you guys don't care about it that's one thing, but for those of us that do, to not have any improvement over the 6D is disappointing and a factor in whether we want to purchase the camera or not. I know it will still take excellent images just as my 6D does, but I don't think I want to spend $2000 on a camera right now that gives me no improvement in DR because that is important to me.

I also know that these measurements are from apreproduction model so I will reserve full judgement until real measurements and reviews come out. And if it turns out that it will be mostly an ergonomics and features upgrade for me, I will have to determine if that's enough to warrant spending the money.
 
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mashuto said:
You guys are kind of ridiculous. We know that DR does not equal IQ, but it is a component of IQ and one that is important to a lot of people. If you guys don't care about it that's one thing, but for those of us that do, to not have any improvement over the 6D is disappointing and a factor in whether we want to purchase the camera or not. I know it will still take excellent images just as my 6D does, but I don't think I want to spend $2000 on a camera right now that gives me no improvement in DR because that is important to me.

I also know that these measurements are from apreproduction model so I will reserve full judgement until real measurements and reviews come out. And if it turns out that it will be mostly an ergonomics and features upgrade for me, I will have to determine if that's enough to warrant spending the money.

Maybe ask them what do they think is more important to IQ and then compare what SONY or Nikon offered us 3 or 4 years ago. Some of the topics are way off, we are talking about IQ not the person's skill. Indeed a person with great skill could take a photo with whatever camera they use, but give them a better IQ camera, the picture would just look better.
 
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mashuto said:
You guys are kind of ridiculous. We know that DR does not equal IQ, but it is a component of IQ and one that is important to a lot of people. If you guys don't care about it that's one thing, but for those of us that do, to not have any improvement over the 6D is disappointing and a factor in whether we want to purchase the camera or not. I know it will still take excellent images just as my 6D does, but I don't think I want to spend $2000 on a camera right now that gives me no improvement in DR because that is important to me.

I also know that these measurements are from apreproduction model so I will reserve full judgement until real measurements and reviews come out. And if it turns out that it will be mostly an ergonomics and features upgrade for me, I will have to determine if that's enough to warrant spending the money.

Now this is worth the three thumbs up, not the post where we've learned, that we can make great shots using even a cell phone. We all know that 6D2 is going to take great photos, but why not let it take even better under certain circumstances? It all boils down to Canon explaining, why using the same production process, we got worse sensor characteristics at low ISO, than even the APS-C 80D/77D.

Of course, there is still chance, that something is wrong with the initial measurements and that the final product deliver better results.
 
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