CanonCams said:https://www.focus-numerique.com/reflex/tests/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-3365.html
The french website focus numérique did several tests of the pre-production model.
They tested the dynamic range and their conclusion was the 6d has about the same DR as the 5D mark IV (about 6/7 Ev recovery range, under the 8Ev of the Sonys).
"Au final, le 6D Mark II semble présenter une latitude de travail assez proche de celle du 5D Mark IV, entre 6 et 7 IL. Dans ce domaine, les capteurs 24x36 de Sony dominent encore la concurrence et peuvent remonter des informations avec une plus grande souplesse."
ricky_005 said:Canon Sabotages the 6D II in attempt to push users to the 5D IV
Its time to Jump Ship......
bholliman said:The sky is falling, the sky is falling! :
Let's wait until results are available from independent testing by trusted reviewers on production copies before we start drawing conclusions.
Don Haines said:bholliman said:The sky is falling, the sky is falling! :
Let's wait until results are available from independent testing by trusted reviewers on production copies before we start drawing conclusions.
But I want topanicbelieve Canon is doomed now........
sebasan said:IQ = DR?
I think that the most funny thing you can read in these forums is people claiming that the 5D3 has very bad IQ, that statements show how much they know about IQ
neuroanatomist said:sebasan said:IQ = DR?
I think that the most funny thing you can read in these forums is people claiming that the 5D3 has very bad IQ, that statements show how much they know about IQ
But some people apparently believe just that, including some otherwise very rational and intelligent individuals (e.g., one poster who claimed the 5DIII has "...poor, sub-par, unacceptable IQ,").
neuroanatomist said:sebasan said:IQ = DR?
I think that the most funny thing you can read in these forums is people claiming that the 5D3 has very bad IQ, that statements show how much they know about IQ
But some people apparently believe just that, including some otherwise very rational and intelligent individuals (e.g., one poster who claimed the 5DIII has "...poor, sub-par, unacceptable IQ,").
M42 said:There are some reasons to be concerned with the dynamic range. Here are a couple of points :
First, a lot of people noted the following highlight on DPR hands-on preview : "When shadow areas are lifted by a couple of stops, there's no obvious banding, but noise becomes prominent". However, the previous sentence is much more revealing : "According to Canon representatives, the 6D Mark II should outperform the original 6D (which it very evidently does) but may not offer the same kind of dynamic range and absolute resolution of the EOS 5D Mark IV.".
PhotoCat said:M42 said:There are some reasons to be concerned with the dynamic range. Here are a couple of points :
First, a lot of people noted the following highlight on DPR hands-on preview : "When shadow areas are lifted by a couple of stops, there's no obvious banding, but noise becomes prominent". However, the previous sentence is much more revealing : "According to Canon representatives, the 6D Mark II should outperform the original 6D (which it very evidently does) but may not offer the same kind of dynamic range and absolute resolution of the EOS 5D Mark IV.".
Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model! It would appear that 6D2's DR is far less than that of 5DIV, which has a proven 4-stop noiseless shadow detail recovery.
Jopa said:PhotoCat said:Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model!
Are you trying to recover JPEG? I'm not sure if it has as much color information as a 14-bit RAW...
neuroanatomist said:Jopa said:PhotoCat said:Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model!
Are you trying to recover JPEG? I'm not sure if it has as much color information as a 14-bit RAW...
Wait, you mean I can't push my jpg images 2 stops? Oh no! Time to switch to Sony. :![]()
HarryFilm said:Why does everyone CARE about what the Canon 6D mk2 Naysayers Say?
I can make ANY camera look good if I (or YOU!) just Crop Hard,
lower your highlights by 10+%, raise your shadows by 10+%,
increase contrast by 5+%, add extra colour saturation of about
5% to 15% and finally add a 1.5 or 2 pixel Unsharp Mask
to your hopefully properly IN-FOCUS final image!
The below three photos were done on a mere 9 megapixel
seven year old CONSUMER POINT AND SHOOT camera AND
a smartphone cropped hard in Adobe Photoshop
and Corel Photopaint imaging programs!
Make it about the Photograph and the Photographer and NOT the camera!
So who CARES what camera you have! Focus on Framing, Focus and Iris
and let the image speak for itself! If you don't have enough light OPEN
the IRIS and de-noise later or even better yet....LIGHT THE NIGHT!
(i.e. use a flash or extra diffuse lighting!)
If I can do THESE PHOTOS on a smartphone and
point and shoot camera, image if you get a NEW
camera and LEARN HOW TO USE IT AND ALL ITS
FUNCTIONS PROPERLY! Imagine all the photos
you too can take if properly trained!
neuroanatomist said:Jopa said:PhotoCat said:Exactly! Looks like 6D2 doesn't bring anything new to the table in terms of Dynamic Range at ISO100.
The portrait 03.jpg is about 1EV underexposed at ISO100. So adding +1EV in lightroom fixes it. Taking it up another EV i.e. +2EV in lightroom will show some chroma noise in some darker part of the hair of the model!
Are you trying to recover JPEG? I'm not sure if it has as much color information as a 14-bit RAW...
Wait, you mean I can't push my jpg images 2 stops? Oh no! Time to switch to Sony. :![]()
mashuto said:You guys are kind of ridiculous. We know that DR does not equal IQ, but it is a component of IQ and one that is important to a lot of people. If you guys don't care about it that's one thing, but for those of us that do, to not have any improvement over the 6D is disappointing and a factor in whether we want to purchase the camera or not. I know it will still take excellent images just as my 6D does, but I don't think I want to spend $2000 on a camera right now that gives me no improvement in DR because that is important to me.
I also know that these measurements are from apreproduction model so I will reserve full judgement until real measurements and reviews come out. And if it turns out that it will be mostly an ergonomics and features upgrade for me, I will have to determine if that's enough to warrant spending the money.
mashuto said:You guys are kind of ridiculous. We know that DR does not equal IQ, but it is a component of IQ and one that is important to a lot of people. If you guys don't care about it that's one thing, but for those of us that do, to not have any improvement over the 6D is disappointing and a factor in whether we want to purchase the camera or not. I know it will still take excellent images just as my 6D does, but I don't think I want to spend $2000 on a camera right now that gives me no improvement in DR because that is important to me.
I also know that these measurements are from apreproduction model so I will reserve full judgement until real measurements and reviews come out. And if it turns out that it will be mostly an ergonomics and features upgrade for me, I will have to determine if that's enough to warrant spending the money.