Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II

[PureClassA]

Re: 70D Firmware Update?

I'm hoping that some of the new features on the 7DII will trickle down to the 70D as a firmware update in the not-to-distant future. Movie-Servo and a few other features make sense.

That will depend largely on whether or not the processing power of the 70D can handle certain functions. Remember you're talking about capabilities being handled by twin digic 6, not a single 5. I also think Canon is going to keep those features locked up in the 7 for a while anyway, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

That said.... wait to see what Magic Lantern will come up with as a hack if video is your thing

 

[weixing]

Hi,
Dpreview indictae that "It features 65 AF points spread across a significant portion of the frame, with especially wide horizontal coverage. All of these AF points are cross-type (when using lenses with a maximum aperture of f/5.6 or faster), with the center AF point capable of high-precision, dual cross-type focusing with wider aperture (f/2.8 and faster) lenses.". So all 65AF point is cross type when using a F5.6 or faster lens... that's sound good.

Look like I'm getting one...

Have a nice day.

 

[Zv]

C-net plays with the joystick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQmNsLxtkMk

Nice!

 

[fragilesi]

This will be my next camera .

But only when I can afford it .

It will be interesting to see how the reviews go! Think some people are going to have to eat some humble pie by the sounds of it though.

 

[Zv]

Re: Why is there not an L-series 24-70 equivalent for cropped sensors?!!

Scott Kelby said in his video that it produces the cleanest high ISO images he's ever seen from a crop sensor dSLR.

10-frames-per-second! (Drops the mic. Walks off stage). ;-)

someone show him the NX1.

now when it´s about tracking the 7D MK2 will be better i guess but from the FPS alone.. 15 are better than 10.

LOL. In your experience, do many static subjects require 10-15 fps bursts? For moving subjects, I bet the 10 fps of the 7DII yields a higher keeper rate than the 15 fps of the NX1. The 7DII's hit rate will also be higher than the NX1 with native lenses longer than 200mm...it's not hard to be higher than zero.

Wonder what the buffer is like on the NX-1? Can't seem to find those specs. I mean for all we know it could freeze up and choke before it even reaches 15 frames. Any sports photographer will tell you that's nae use at all!

 

[Quest for Light]

Re: Why is there not an L-series 24-70 equivalent for cropped sensors?!!

Scott Kelby said in his video that it produces the cleanest high ISO images he's ever seen from a crop sensor dSLR.

10-frames-per-second! (Drops the mic. Walks off stage). ;-)

someone show him the NX1.

now when it´s about tracking the 7D MK2 will be better i guess but from the FPS alone.. 15 are better than 10.

LOL. In your experience, do many static subjects require 10-15 fps bursts? For moving subjects, I bet the 10 fps of the 7DII yields a higher keeper rate than the 15 fps of the NX1. The 7DII's hit rate will also be higher than the NX1 with native lenses longer than 200mm...it's not hard to be higher than zero.

Wonder what the buffer is like on the NX-1? Can't seem to find those specs. I mean for all we know it could freeze up and choke before it even reaches 15 frames. Any sports photographer will tell you that's nae use at all!

it´s on dpreview. i have seen the specs.

when i remember correct it´s 31 frames for RAW and unlimited (well limited by card speed) for JPG.

 

[Zv]

Re: Why is there not an L-series 24-70 equivalent for cropped sensors?!!

Scott Kelby said in his video that it produces the cleanest high ISO images he's ever seen from a crop sensor dSLR.

10-frames-per-second! (Drops the mic. Walks off stage). ;-)

someone show him the NX1.

now when it´s about tracking the 7D MK2 will be better i guess but from the FPS alone.. 15 are better than 10.

LOL. In your experience, do many static subjects require 10-15 fps bursts? For moving subjects, I bet the 10 fps of the 7DII yields a higher keeper rate than the 15 fps of the NX1. The 7DII's hit rate will also be higher than the NX1 with native lenses longer than 200mm...it's not hard to be higher than zero.

Wonder what the buffer is like on the NX-1? Can't seem to find those specs. I mean for all we know it could freeze up and choke before it even reaches 15 frames. Any sports photographer will tell you that's nae use at all!

it´s on dpreview. i have seen the specs.

And?? What is the buffer limit? Spit it out man if you know it. I can't find it.

 

[slclick]

A very nice 2nd body to a 5D3.

 

[fragilesi]

Re: Why is there not an L-series 24-70 equivalent for cropped sensors?!!

Scott Kelby said in his video that it produces the cleanest high ISO images he's ever seen from a crop sensor dSLR.

10-frames-per-second! (Drops the mic. Walks off stage). ;-)

someone show him the NX1.

now when it´s about tracking the 7D MK2 will be better i guess but from the FPS alone.. 15 are better than 10.

LOL. In your experience, do many static subjects require 10-15 fps bursts? For moving subjects, I bet the 10 fps of the 7DII yields a higher keeper rate than the 15 fps of the NX1. The 7DII's hit rate will also be higher than the NX1 with native lenses longer than 200mm...it's not hard to be higher than zero.

Wonder what the buffer is like on the NX-1? Can't seem to find those specs. I mean for all we know it could freeze up and choke before it even reaches 15 frames. Any sports photographer will tell you that's nae use at all!

it´s on dpreview. i have seen the specs.

And?? What is the buffer limit? Spit it out man if you know it. I can't find it.

If what was quoted on another thread is true it was about 40 shots RAW. 77 JPEG I think. Pretty impressive.

 

[simonxu11]

Re: Why is there not an L-series 24-70 equivalent for cropped sensors?!!

Scott Kelby said in his video that it produces the cleanest high ISO images he's ever seen from a crop sensor dSLR.

10-frames-per-second! (Drops the mic. Walks off stage). ;-)

someone show him the NX1.

now when it´s about tracking the 7D MK2 will be better i guess but from the FPS alone.. 15 are better than 10.

LOL. In your experience, do many static subjects require 10-15 fps bursts? For moving subjects, I bet the 10 fps of the 7DII yields a higher keeper rate than the 15 fps of the NX1. The 7DII's hit rate will also be higher than the NX1 with native lenses longer than 200mm...it's not hard to be higher than zero.

Wonder what the buffer is like on the NX-1? Can't seem to find those specs. I mean for all we know it could freeze up and choke before it even reaches 15 frames. Any sports photographer will tell you that's nae use at all!

it´s on dpreview. i have seen the specs.

And?? What is the buffer limit? Spit it out man if you know it. I can't find it.

"The extra power also gives the Samsung NX1 a maximum continuous shooting rate of 15fps for up to 77 Fine Quality JPEGs or 40 raw files, the company says."

http://www.digitalcameraworld.com/2014/09/15/samsung-nx1-price-specs-release-date-confirmed/
A lot less for JPG than 7D II, but 40 raw@28mp~~that's impressive

 

[Eldar]

Has anyone seen any full size image examples? Links?

 

[notsosem]

Re: Didn't see "Cello video" having front-to-back follow focus.

Cello
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/eos_7dmkii_feature_hd

Thanks for the link.

I'm mostly ignorant about video, but in that sample video, I didn't see what I consider to be a real challenge to follow focus ... a person running diagonally through the scene towards the camera, from upper left in the viewfinder to directly in front of the camera, and then running away from the camera to the upper right.

The movement of the dancers seemed mostly side to side, rather than front to back.

That challenge would be like a baseball video from a seat just behind first base, and the batter running to beat out a bunt from home plate to first base.

I wonder how the 70d does on such a challenge, and how the 7d2 will do.

Perhaps even more challenging ... tracking a single runner among multiple runners, like at an outdoor soccer game?

And more challenging? Indoor sports with multiple players running around, like basketball action?

It's actually much better to look at the "Making of the Cello" video.. found near the bottom of this link under Advanced film-making features

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_7d_mark_ii/index.html

 

[Khalai]

Re: Why is there not an L-series 24-70 equivalent for cropped sensors?!!

"The extra power also gives the Samsung NX1 a maximum continuous shooting rate of 15fps for up to 77 Fine Quality JPEGs or 40 raw files, the company says."

http://www.digitalcameraworld.com/2014/09/15/samsung-nx1-price-specs-release-date-confirmed/
A lot less for JPG than 7D II, but 40 raw@28mp~~that's impressive

Another factor is, how fast will the buffer clear for more photos. This could be another bottleneck. But the point is, Samsung is clearly looking better on paper, no doubt about that. But since Samsung doesn't have any sport oriented lenses and their AF tracking and speed is also yet to be determined, my guess is, that it will not affect any serious sport/wildlife Canon shooters at all.

 

[wsheldon]

A very nice 2nd body to a 5D3.

True, or a great complementary body to a 6D, filling in the functionality gaps for high FPS, AF tracking and ruggedness at close to the price of a single 5D mark III body.

 

[Nazareth]

So, umm... what's special about this upgrade?


Seriously, I'm not excited about this camera.

Supposed to be better low noise at high iso than previous version, plus another 2 megapixels (for improved image quality I assume)- A little better weather sealing, 200,000 shutter ife as compared to 150,000 of previous version I believe- Better video- better autofocus, GPS - 65 point all cross focvus- Better mirror control- 10 frames a second compared to 8 of 7D- Dual DIGIC 6 Image Processors instead of digic 4 of 7D-

There's actuially quite a lot of improvements over previous model

 

[Zv]

Re: Why is there not an L-series 24-70 equivalent for cropped sensors?!!

Scott Kelby said in his video that it produces the cleanest high ISO images he's ever seen from a crop sensor dSLR.

10-frames-per-second! (Drops the mic. Walks off stage). ;-)

someone show him the NX1.

now when it´s about tracking the 7D MK2 will be better i guess but from the FPS alone.. 15 are better than 10.

LOL. In your experience, do many static subjects require 10-15 fps bursts? For moving subjects, I bet the 10 fps of the 7DII yields a higher keeper rate than the 15 fps of the NX1. The 7DII's hit rate will also be higher than the NX1 with native lenses longer than 200mm...it's not hard to be higher than zero.

Wonder what the buffer is like on the NX-1? Can't seem to find those specs. I mean for all we know it could freeze up and choke before it even reaches 15 frames. Any sports photographer will tell you that's nae use at all!

it´s on dpreview. i have seen the specs.

And?? What is the buffer limit? Spit it out man if you know it. I can't find it.

"The extra power also gives the Samsung NX1 a maximum continuous shooting rate of 15fps for up to 77 Fine Quality JPEGs or 40 raw files, the company says."

http://www.digitalcameraworld.com/2014/09/15/samsung-nx1-price-specs-release-date-confirmed/
A lot less for JPG than 7D II, but 40 raw@28mp~~that's impressive

Hmmm impressive if they are indeed 40 full size RAW files and not some compressed version like sRAW or something. The NX-1 certainly looks good on paper, I'll give ye that! But what good is all that awesomeness when you can't pair it to a decent super-tele? 15fps of a static subject 10 feet in front of you isn't all that useful.

 

[Quest for Light]

it´s a refined body that´s for sure.

i was never going to buy a 7D MK2 anyway.
that the 7D MK2 is so focused on action shooter helps me to not get tempted.

im waiting for the 5D MK 4.. my spouse would flogg me when i spend 1700 euro on this camera and another 3000 euro on a 5D MK4.

now i only hope the 5D MK4 will be out in spring 2015. :

 

[2n10]

I will scratching the itch when I have enough scratch to do it. ;D

 

[Steve]

Well, I was saying a while ago that if they deliver the spec list for under $2k this is going to be a great camera so at $1799 this looks pretty awesome. I'll probably rent one in a few months once the hype has died down and some sober reviews have come in and try it next to my 1DIV to see if its an upgrade.

That AF toggle looks brilliant and from that CNET video it looks like it still has the precision center point from the 7D. That was the one thing about the original 7D AF system I really liked. I wonder how customizeable the button layout and AF selection is, though. Would be nice to have the ability to toggle between two favorite AF settings by pushing in the joystick rather than having to cycle through all available modes. One thing I am very curious about as an improvement over my 1D is how well it handles f5.6 lenses. I'm at 5.6 min aperture 99% of the time and if the AF points are restricted it may not be worth it. On the other hand, -3EV might boost performance on those lenses so I guess I'll just have to see once its available.

 

[Lee Jay]

I still don't expect it to fix Canon's noise issues...

As for base ISO DR, how about this. It can do +/- 5 stops of bracketing for up to 7 exposures, and it can do 7 exposures in 6 tenths of a second. That's a pretty fast HDR which would probably work for all but fast moving subjects, and it would give you up to around 22 stops of DR.