Patent: Canon RF 180mm f/3.5L Macro and Canon RF 200mm f/4L Macro

roby17269

R5 + RF & EF L glass
Feb 26, 2014
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A 180mm or even better 200mm macro with greater than 1:1 magnification would be great. I love the 100 2.8 macro but for many subjects you have to get too close.... although I have finally pulled the trigger on a second hand MP-E 65mm, which goes even closer, reasoning (not that I really really need any logical rationales for my photographic procurement process :p ) that it would be more useable on my R5 than it was on DSLRs.

Darn! Another one on the wishlist. My poor credit card :cry:
 

entoman

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The image quality on the 180mm is superb, but it is a heavy lens and the autofocus is useless (always flip to manual).
With the 100mm macro and 180mm macro on my R5, I find the best approach is to set the lens to AF, and the camera in SERVO, but to pre-focus (approximately) with the manual focus ring, and then half-press the shutter release and let the AF do the final adjustment.

It’s a lot more reliable than using AF alone, and much faster than using MF alone, especially with a subject that is in forward-backward motion, such as a butterfly resting on a flower that’s swaying slightly in the breeze.
 
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takesome1

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All I can say is best Rumor of the month.

I would love to have either an RF 180mm or 200mm macro lens.

The very first lens I mounted to my R5 was my EF 180mm macro lens. I was impressed how much faster it was focusing compared to my old bodies.
It has been a few years but with the flip screen it will be much easier to get down on the ground bug hunting.

The EF 180mm was superior to the 100mm, but the 100mm had IS and you could hunt bugs hand held much easier.

Bring on their release!!!
 
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Jethro

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No you can't. You can fill the image with a subject from further away, but that changes the perspective, ergo different framing.
Yep, typically with better dof and better access to light. I've been using the Laowa 100mm (2x) f2.8 for a while, and even without AF, I'm thoroughly addicted now to the reach. Whether I'd pay 5x as much for one of these ... who knows, retirement looms and with it access to my superannuation.
 

takesome1

EOS 5D Mark IV
Aug 23, 2013
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No you can't. You can fill the image with a subject from further away, but that changes the perspective, ergo different framing.
Good point, for these two lenses with a minimum focal distance of 11.51' vs 1.57' and a extremely narrow DOF just about everything else is bokeh.
It was important to correct this for the conversation that was taking place.
 
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Frodo

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What would you need a 200mm macro lens for?
For flighty creatures like lizards where extra subject distance needed. Like this skink in our garden yesterday. EF 200/2.8L, with 25mm extension tube and adaptor on my R.
 

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amfoto1

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What would you need a 200mm macro lens for?
You wouldn't ask if you ever photographed biting, stinging, poisonous subjects!
The minimum focus distance of the 100mm lenses is about 11 inches. The MFD of the 180mm is around 18 inches.
I do hope Canon puts IS in their "long" macro lens, be it 180mm or 200mm. In my opinion, this lens doesn't necessarily need to be able to do more than 1:1, like the RF 100mm Macro. If higher magnification is needed, add an extension tube or switch to the 100mm lens... Or go with the MP-E 65mm for really high magnifications.
I'm not a fan of ring lites with most macro lenses (too flat lighting... I use a twin lite instead with 100mm and 180mm). But one does work well with the 65mm at magnifications 2:1 and greater ( the least that lens can do is 1:1 and it goes up to 5:1).
The 100mm is best "all purpose" macro for most people. The 65mm and 180mm are both rather specialized lenses.
 
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Bahrd

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Try the MP-E 65mm (especially with the 2x TC). :)
I do! ;) With an MT-24EX flash on the other end, but...
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I'm not a fan of ring lites with most macro lenses (too flat lighting... I use a twin lite instead with 100mm and 180mm). But one does work well with the 65mm at magnifications 2:1 and greater ( the least that lens can do is 1:1 and it goes up to 5:1).
[...]
... do you guys have any suggestions, what type[s ] of batteries are both suitable and convenient for use with the Twin Lite?
 
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neuroanatomist

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I do! ;) With an MT-24EX flash on the other end, but...

... do you guys have any suggestions, what type of batteries are both suitable and convenient for use with the Twin Lite?
I use eneloop batteries in all my flashes, including the MT-24 EX.
 
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koenkooi

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I do! ;) With an MT-24EX flash on the other end, but...

... do you guys have any suggestions, what type[s ] of batteries are both suitable and convenient for use with the Twin Lite?
Like @neuroanatomist I can recommend Eneloop batteries. I'm also using Ikea brand batteries, which seem to perform like eneloops, even after a year or 2 of use.
I'm looking at getting a CP-E4 clone to get a faster recharge time, but I live in fear of burning out the bulbs on the MT-24, I bought mine used about a decade ago and the MT26-EX is using RF-like pricing.
 
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SwissFrank

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The image quality on the 180mm is superb, but it is a heavy lens and the autofocus is useless
I love it.

When I decided to go to RF (first couple R reviews were just available) I sold a dozen-plus EF lenses, keeping only the 135/2, 180/3.5 and 600/4IS.
 
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