Patent: Canon RF 35mm f/1.2L USM as well as an RF 24mm f/1.2L USM and RF 28mm f/1.2L USM

Berowne

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I am happy with my affordable 35mm & 85mm f/1.4 - dont need more speed.
 

Larsskv

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These lenses will be 4cm longer than the already large RF50L. I don’t like it at all. I would much rather have a smaller 500grams f1.4 lens with “normal” L quality, than a big 1kg f1.2 lens with RF 50L quality. Some will think otherwise but for me, the difference in IQ is most apparent for pixel peeping, not for real world significance.

I find the RF50L to be so large that I often leave it at home.

edit: I do want L level quality. The RF 35 f1.8 for instance, is a really good lens, but it lacks the clarity, color, contrast and bokeh that I would expect from a L lens.
 
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These lenses will be 4cm longer than the already large RF50L. I don’t like it at all. I would much rather have a smaller 500grams f1.4 lens with “normal” L quality, than a big 1kg f1.2 lens with RF 50L quality. Some will think otherwise but for me, the difference in IQ is most apparent for pixel peeping, not for real world significance.

I find the RF50L to be so large that I often leave it at home.

edit: I do want L level quality. The RF 35 f1.8 for instance, is a really good lens, but it lacks the clarity, color, contrast and bokeh that I would expect from a L lens.
Ha, you wrote this in the time in the time it took me to write mine about the lengths. Great minds think alike, no? :cool:
 
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As none of those lenses are stabilized, does that mean that all future mirrorless cameras will have IBIS or does Caon think that somebody who buys those expensive lenses will also buy a high end mirrorless camera?
isnt ibis easier in small sensors. seems like they had it before the bigger sensors.
 

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1.2 rumors and patents always bring out the cries for 1.4 and 1.8 primes missing from the lineup (which in the big scheme of things is still in it's infancy) What with the lower end R bodies supposedly coming, there is no cause for concern that they won't be making more consumer primes. Those of us that love our RF 35 1.8 just need to be patient....the 24/28/40 etc should be around the corner. Good thing we can shoot adapted, imagine being in the Nikon camp.
 

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1.2 rumors and patents always bring out the cries for 1.4 and 1.8 primes missing from the lineup (which in the big scheme of things is still in it's infancy) What with the lower end R bodies supposedly coming, there is no cause for concern that they won't be making more consumer primes. Those of us that love our RF 35 1.8 just need to be patient....the 24/28/40 etc should be around the corner. Good thing we can shoot adapted, imagine being in the Nikon camp.
I’m not sure I agree. Back in the FD days the 50mm focal length, for instance, was available in f1.8, f1.4, f1.2, and f1.2 L and that is ignoring the specialist 50mm macro. In EF we had the 85 f1.8, f1.4 L IS, and f1.2 L. It’s not about ‘consumer primes’ it’s about a range of primes with a broad appeal.

I love the 35mm focal length and am fortunate enough to be in the position to buy an RF 35 1.2L, but the idea of traveling with a 2lb, $2,000+ prime is simply not appealing. I don‘t want a consumer prime or a huge heavy and overly valuable prime, I want the equivalent of the EF 85f1.4 L IS.
 

Frodo

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Not at all interested in these. Too heavy and too expensive.
Give me quality silver class lenses at f/1.8 or 1.4.
 
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isnt ibis easier in small sensors. seems like they had it before the bigger sensors.
Would be cool to get an APS-C camera with IBIS for less than $1000 or so. Then I would ad the 800mm f/11 and effectively have a 1280mm lens that is stabilized in the lens AND in the body.
 

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As much as I love this (especially the 28mm f/1.2), aren't they a little on the long side?
24mm (143.97mm)
28mm (146.96mm)
35mm (154.96mm)

Compare this to the RF 50L and 85L:
50mm (108mm)
85mm (117mm)

Just saying...
If I remember correctly, these patent lengths measure from front lens to image plane, so you can easily shove off 20mm flange distance.
 

slclick

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I’m not sure I agree. Back in the FD days the 50mm focal length, for instance, was available in f1.8, f1.4, f1.2, and f1.2 L and that is ignoring the specialist 50mm macro. In EF we had the 85 f1.8, f1.4 L IS, and f1.2 L. It’s not about ‘consumer primes’ it’s about a range of primes with a broad appeal.

I love the 35mm focal length and am fortunate enough to be in the position to buy an RF 35 1.2L, but the idea of traveling with a 2lb, $2,000+ prime is simply not appealing. I don‘t want a consumer prime or a huge heavy and overly valuable prime, I want the equivalent of the EF 85f1.4 L IS.
I'm not sure you are actually disagreeing with me but instead making other points. Maybe your disagreeing is nitpicking my usage of the word 'consumer'. Whatever....MOST folx will buy the 1.4 and up varieties, not the 1.2 glass. These lenses are trickling in, lower cost bodies coming out will facilitate that. THAT was my point. Do you disagree with that?
 

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As none of those lenses are stabilized, does that mean that all future mirrorless cameras will have IBIS or does Caon think that somebody who buys those expensive lenses will also buy a high end mirrorless camera?
It probably just means that ultra wide aperture lenses are not easy to have lens stabilization. When the 85mm f/1.4 IS came out, Canon made a big deal about how challenging it was to design.
 

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I said this in the RF 35mm rumor before, but I'll remind people again that Canon explained that larger aperture primes give IBIS more room to work, which allows the RF 85mm F/1.2 to have 8 stops of IBIS without having IS in the lens.

So I wouldn't expect any fast primes with IS, considering Canon can save money, make lenses more durable without IS, and reduce optical complexity by relying on the large apertures to boost IBIS. 8 stops is far better than what the EF lens IS systems could get.
Are you sure about that? I believe Canon has said RF lens can have a relatively large image circle (linked to the fact that the EF and RF lens mounts have the same diameter but RF has a shorter flange distance), and a larger image circle allows the IBIS to be more effective because the sensor can be allowed to move further. I don't believe it has anything to do with the maximum aperture of the lens though. (Well, wide aperture lenses tend to be relatively large and expensive anyway so it may be that from a practical perspective Canon is generally willing to go to more trouble and expense to design a lens with a larger image circle for those sorts of lenses, but that is a separate issue.)

 
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I'm not sure you are actually disagreeing with me but instead making other points. Maybe your disagreeing is nitpicking my usage of the word 'consumer'. Whatever....MOST folx will buy the 1.4 and up varieties, not the 1.2 glass. These lenses are trickling in, lower cost bodies coming out will facilitate that. THAT was my point. Do you disagree with that?
Well yes, I think I do. I don't see how bargain priced R bodies, crop R bodies, or 'consumer' f1.8 lenses (or even crazy sized and priced f1.2 primes) increases the likelihood or speed of release of more 'modest' and practical f1.4 L's.

As far as I can see everything else is a distraction from the lenses many of us here actually want to buy. And whilst I know we are not particularly representative of the market in general I believe we are representative of the R5/6 market, which seems to be where Canon is making their money in the MILC space.
 
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