Patent: Canon Tilt-Shift with Image Stabilization

[Canon Rumors]

A patent showing the possibility of image stabilization in a tilt-shift lens has appeared. While the patent doesn’t mention anything about a potential optical formula, it’s an interesting idea nonetheless.</p>
<p>We’ve <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/04/macro-tilt-shift-on-the-way-cr1/" target="_blank">heard in the past that Canon was working on a tilt-shift macro lens</a>, which would be an engineering challenge for the EF mount. Could we see IS appear in such a lens?</p>
<p>Patent Publication No. 2015-99216 (Google Translated)</p>
<ul>
<li>Published 2015.5.28</li>
<li>Filing date 2013.11.18</li>
</ul>
<p>Canon patents</p>
<ul>
<li>Anti-vibration possible tilt-shift lens</li>
<li>Possible anti-vibration while maintaining the tilt</li>
<li>A first vibration proof group corresponding to the tilt, the second of vibration proof group corresponding to the shift</li>
<li>Carry out the tilt vibration isolation of a shift anti-vibration, the telephoto side in the wide side</li>
</ul>
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[AcutancePhotography]

Is it common to use a T/S lens off a tripod?

 

[Canon Rumors]

Is it common to use a T/S lens off a tripod?

I usually use the 90mm without a tripod.

 

[Loswr]

Naaaah, no innovation here. :

Is it common to use a T/S lens off a tripod?

I have done so on several occasions, although only with shift.

 

[Maximilian]

Cool! I really hope this will end up in a real product.

[sarc] But I thought Canon wasn't innovative [/sarc]

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Unfortunately, there is no guarantee that a patent will result in a consumer product.

 

[slclick]

Will my popup flash cast a shadow? *snark*

 

[Jeff]

I personally would find it more useful if Canon's TSE lenses could communicate with the image's metadata file so post lens correction such as CA could be accurately applied. Yes I know the 24 II & 17 are much better than the old lenses. Of course I understand that for flower photographers the IS could be desired by them.

 

[Random Orbits]

Will my popup flash cast a shadow? *snark*

No, but with shift, it's firing in the wrong direction. ;D

 

[NancyP]

This could be interesting for some close-up/macro photographers. I could see the use of tilt in reducing the number of stack photos necessary for an insect viewed from 45 degree angle.

 

[romanr74]

Is it common to use a T/S lens off a tripod?

I never used my TS-E 17 with a tripod but always without...

 

[zlatko]

Some people still say that Canon doesn't innovate.

 

[sanj]

I am quite surprised many of you shoot T/S lenses without tripod.

 

[preppyak]

Is it common to use a T/S lens off a tripod?

I am quite surprised many of you shoot T/S lenses without tripod.

Well, and if Canon came out with an IS T/S, you might see it become more frequent. People might shoot on a tripod most of the time because they have to, not because they want to or it gives them the best shots.

I agree for flower and bug photography, going off tripod gives you a lot of flexibility when conditions and subjects are changing.

 

[IglooEater]

I am quite surprised many of you shoot T/S lenses without tripod.

But... But.. It's not innovation if it's not something I wanted...

 

[surapon]

Well Both side of coin are great, for me, When I use my TS-E 24 mm MK II =
1) If I use only straight 24 mm for wide/ super sharp photos for cityscape scenery, when I walk and shoot downtown in the big city, I use handheld only, and wish to have IS.
2) If I use Shift for panoramic photos ( of 3 Photos in 1) and Tilt functions for correct the photos of tall buildings, I must use Tripods all the times, because I do not trust my hands.
Yes, New IS. function is a dream for super wide angle T & S lens when we shoot the views with out tripods.
Have a great day, Sir, Madame.
Surapon

 

[JohnDizzo15]

I'd say the ratio for on and off tripod is about 90/10 for me. I've used the 45 and 90 on a tripod maybe 3-5 times in the last year. I don't think I've used the 24II on a tripod at all. Between the focus screen swap out and live view on the 6d, I do just fine handheld. I also use them adapted to the xt1 which has peaking and other focus aids which makes it even easier albeit without the ability to stop down.

As far as having IS on any of these lenses, I'd say it would be a huge innovation. For me, it would be useful for a lot of things since I shoot almost exclusively handheld with them. Also, it would be very interesting to test it out for handheld video.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

I should have been more specific in my question: How common is it to use tilt with a T/S lens hand held?

For simple shifting, I can understand that handheld would not be any more or less difficult than shooting straight through the lens.

It was the tilt aspect that I was wondering about. As I understand/misunderstand the Scheimpflug principle, the amount of DoF change is not strictly linear with regards to the tilting of the optics. In other words a little tilt goes a long way. I was wondering if handholding using the tilt feature would be much more difficult to keep the focus plane where you want it.

If you are handholding and using tilt, would you turn IS off until you get the focus plane where you want it and then turn it on for the shot?

 

[surapon]

This could be interesting for some close-up/macro photographers. I could see the use of tilt in reducing the number of stack photos necessary for an insect viewed from 45 degree angle.

Good Friday afternoon to dear friend NancyP.
One question, Madame, What is the better Idea to use T&S lens to capture the Macro Photos ?---Compare to my dear 100 L IS Macro Lens, 180 MM L Macro Lens and MP-E 65 MM. Macro 1X-5X ?---Thankssss, I might miss some great functions to shoot Macro Photos with T&S. Lens. Can we put the Tube between the Lens and Camera too ??.
Thanks you so much.
Surapon

 

[JohnDizzo15]

I should have been more specific in my question: How common is it to use tilt with a T/S lens hand held?

For simple shifting, I can understand that handheld would not be any more or less difficult than shooting straight through the lens.

It was the tilt aspect that I was wondering about. As I understand/misunderstand the Scheimpflug principle, the amount of DoF change is not strictly linear with regards to the tilting of the optics. In other words a little tilt goes a long way. I was wondering if handholding using the tilt feature would be much more difficult to keep the focus plane where you want it.

If you are handholding and using tilt, would you turn IS off until you get the focus plane where you want it and then turn it on for the shot?

I exclusively shoot with the tilt function without shift when handheld. The rare occasions I shoot buildings are the only times I use shift (which also happens to be the handful of times I'm on a tripod a year). Takes a lot of practice. But once you know what you are looking for with regard to finding the focus plane that you want (and exactly how to get there), it is actually pretty easy.