Perfect Camera features

[Kiran]

Folks,

Intension is to discuss the features we all think a perfect camera should have, hopefully Canon can see and understand what the users are looking for in a perfect DSLR body and incorporate these features in the future releases, hoping to see some exciting ideas

These are some features I think Canon can incorporate in the pro bodies with a full frame sensor

1) Capability to select the different crop factors with in the full frame sensor
2) Inbuilt variable neutral density (the technology exists and is available in C300)
3) Inbuilt graduated neutral density feature

What do you all think about the above features and any more features you want to add?

By the way lets not discuss what features we don’t want for now

Thoughts please..

Kiran
5D Mark II, 16 – 35mm f/2.8L II, 70 -200mm f/2.8L, 100mm Macro f/2.8L IS…...

 

[Tijn]

What do those "neutral density" things mean?

 

[Kiran]

what I mean by that is inbuilt neutral density filter, which reduces the amount of light enters, we generally throw one on the lens while shooting sunset or waterfall etc.

 

[briansquibb]

what I mean by that is inbuilt neutral density filter, which reduces the amount of light enters, we generally throw one on the lens while shooting sunset or waterfall etc.

Ah - like an extended exposure compensation then?

I would llike dynamic ranges better than the best film

 

[Tijn]

Ah, like ND grey filters. Ah, ND... Neutral Density... *mind blown*

Might I ask, how does the ISO-50-"extension" compare to an in-built ND filter?

 

[Kiran]

ISO 50 is already available in some of the bodies, but I think with ND filter capability up to 7 or 9 stops like any typical variable neutral density filter works at your disposal in a DSLR body feature helps a lot

 

[Tijn]

My particular body doesn't have ISO 50. But my question was: is the f-stop from ISO 100 to 50 comparable to an ND filter? Would ISO expansions to 25, 12, etc effectively be the same as "ND" filters, or is there something totally different going on on a hardware level?

 

[distant.star]

I'd rather talk about the perfect camera user.

 

[Kiran]

yes!! that might work Tijn, not sure if there are any negative impact on the IQ but it works great as we don't have to spend on filters or lug them around any more

Brain, I agree, improved dynamic rage a great addition

 

[Kernuak]

My particular body doesn't have ISO 50. But my question was: is the f-stop from ISO 100 to 50 comparable to an ND filter? Would ISO expansions to 25, 12, etc effectively be the same as "ND" filters, or is there something totally different going on on a hardware level?

As it's generally an extended setting, you tend to take a hit on image quality to some degree. At ISO 50 on the 5D MkII, there is a slight reduction in dynamic range, but to be honest, for the situations I tend to use it, that isn't really noticeable in the real world. Given the choice of using it or not being able to get a slow enough shutterspeed for water, for example, I'd use it and work around the reduced DR. Overall, the hit is probably similar to the slight (and probably not noticeable) reduction in image quality with a good quality ND filter because of the extra layer of glass, the difference is, you can get more than one stop with ND filters, with extra expense of course.

 

[Kiran]

how about one or two of crop factor options? selecting like we select various JPEG sizes?
Wouldn't that be helpful to make your 100 mm to 170 mm just by selecting 1.7 crop factor,

I know probably the view finder needs to be tweaked too or at least show a frame on the overlap display in the view finder to see how you are composing.

Just wondering if any one else likes this feature of its just me

 

[stabmasterasron]

I think mirrorless is eventually coming to full frame. As processing power increases and the focus systems catch up and pass conventional dslrs, I think mirrorless will be inevitable. Sony has announced that a new full frame is under development, I wonder if it will be SLT? Mirroless offers all kinds of possibilities like touchscreen focus and so forth. Not to mention possible size advantages, although I think full frames are the correct size to support the necessary external controls and body robustness.
For the next year or two, I think mirrorbox cameras still have advantages for studio shooting as well as sports and wildlife. But beyond that, I don't know.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

A ND Filter in a camera body will make it larger and deeper. Right now, the back of the lens almost hits the mirror as it swings up. Another big issue is reflections off the front and rear surfaces of any filter, causing what is known as ghosting. Sony has it on their mirrorless cameras, its very difficult to eliminate totally.

Its much better to let those who need one to add it to the front of their lens where it will have much less affect on the image quality.

 

[D.Sim]

The perfect cameras are your eyes, imho. If you could convert them to capture as well, thats your perfect images all set.

What do your eyes have? Dynamic Range for one. Size, lightweight...


Lots more to go from.

 

[AprilForever]

how about one or two of crop factor options? selecting like we select various JPEG sizes?
Wouldn't that be helpful to make your 100 mm to 170 mm just by selecting 1.7 crop factor,

I know probably the view finder needs to be tweaked too or at least show a frame on the overlap display in the view finder to see how you are composing.

Just wondering if any one else likes this feature of its just me

APS-C is cheaper than a full frame which crops... and less bulky...

 

[D.Sim]

how about one or two of crop factor options? selecting like we select various JPEG sizes?
Wouldn't that be helpful to make your 100 mm to 170 mm just by selecting 1.7 crop factor,

I know probably the view finder needs to be tweaked too or at least show a frame on the overlap display in the view finder to see how you are composing.

Just wondering if any one else likes this feature of its just me

APS-C is cheaper than a full frame which crops... and less bulky...

not quite the perfect camera though... unless you want a small camera...

 

[briansquibb]

Wont be long before APS-C is relagated to the realms of the P&S

 

[D.Sim]

Wont be long before APS-C is relagated to the realms of the P&S

some would argue it already is

 

[Kiran]

A ND Filter in a camera body will make it larger and deeper. Right now, the back of the lens almost hits the mirror as it swings up. Another big issue is reflections off the front and rear surfaces of any filter, causing what is known as ghosting. Sony has it on their mirrorless cameras, its very difficult to eliminate totally.

Its much better to let those who need one to add it to the front of their lens where it will have much less affect on the image quality.

I am not talking about adding physical filters to the camera body, more like provide some controls on the sensor to adjust to get the effect, same goes for "graduated neutral density" if we get controls to adjust the ISO levels of a sensor's different sections (Example top and bottom section) then we have the feature inbuilt without adding more bulk to the camera.

 

[Kiran]

how about one or two of crop factor options? selecting like we select various JPEG sizes?
Wouldn't that be helpful to make your 100 mm to 170 mm just by selecting 1.7 crop factor,

I know probably the view finder needs to be tweaked too or at least show a frame on the overlap display in the view finder to see how you are composing.

Just wondering if any one else likes this feature of its just me

APS-C is cheaper than a full frame which crops... and less bulky...

True but having full frame with crops is like having multiple cameras in one body, in the end much cheaper compared to having to buy multiple bodies for landscapes, sports, wildlife photography..