POLL: Price of 5Ds

[Marsu42]

It can never be a lot more then the Nikon D810 or people start running away from Canon anyways

Dead wrong (I'm afraid to say). The 5d3's pricing vs. d800 or the 24-70L2 has shown lots of people aren't ready to jump ship even over a couple of thousand $$$, and those who do already did it.

I'm sure the 5ds will be very expensive (probably why Canon leaked the specs before having to state the price), but for for the prestige of 50 - that's *F*I*F*T*Y* - metapixies this is a no-brainer as far as market demand from rich folk goes.

 

[RLPhoto]

If it's over 4 G-birds I could understand why. The S series has always been a premium product.

 

[PureClassA]

Looking at $4000 machine +/- 5%. People WAY over estimated (by 40-50%) the 7D2 when it got rumored and then did the same with 100-400 mk2. The 5D3 will get a sharp price drop into the mid-upper $2k range when this gets announced. I haven't seen anything concrete suggesting Nikon is also immediately getting Sonys new 50MP sensor either. And if the 5DS indeed comes out with the Sony, I'd be surprised if they didn't lock Nikon out in the deal. Canon wants the 5Ds vs D810 and they may well get precisely that at least for a little while.

 

[mackguyver]

If it's over 4 G-birds I could understand why. The S series has always been a premium product.

I agree, though the falling Yen and strong dollar may influence the pricing pretty heavily. That and the surprise prices of the 16-35 f/4IS and somewhat, 7DII. It seems they have learned since the 24-70 f/4 IS...hopefully.

 

[Famateur]

If it's over 4 G-birds I could understand why. The S series has always been a premium product.

I agree, though the falling Yen and strong dollar may influence the pricing pretty heavily. That and the surprise prices of the 16-35 f/4IS and somewhat, 7DII. It seems they have learned since the 24-70 f/4 IS...hopefully.

Agreed.

I like the trend (and that the 24-70 F4 IS was $799 after MIR by the time I picked one up. )

 

[PhotographyFirst]

Looking at $4000 machine +/- 5%. People WAY over estimated (by 40-50%) the 7D2 when it got rumored and then did the same with 100-400 mk2. The 5D3 will get a sharp price drop into the mid-upper $2k range when this gets announced. I haven't seen anything concrete suggesting Nikon is also immediately getting Sonys new 50MP sensor either. And if the 5DS indeed comes out with the Sony, I'd be surprised if they didn't lock Nikon out in the deal. Canon wants the 5Ds vs D810 and they may well get precisely that at least for a little while.

Yup. It also has the A7R taking many potential Canon sales.

One thing I see as a full-time landscape dude, is Nikon D800+ and Sony A7R all over the place. I'm literally the only person I know of who shoots higher-end landscapes and uses Canon 6D still. I had a D800, but didn't like the controls and layout, which matter more to me than the sensor.

Landscape photography isn't the small niche it once was, it's really damn popular these days. All of those masses of people who where buying the 5D2 have moved away from Canon for landscape bodies.

With the market leveling off, Canon has to compete much harder now to get as many people back to their system as possible. Losing market share is no laughing matter even for big old Canon.

It's going to HAVE to have 14+ stops of DR, and priced possibly below the D810, in order to get at least the Landscape guys to go back. Even then the 11-24 might not be the 14-24 killer Canon thinks it will be especially at a $3000 price point.

The vast number of landscaper these days are using wide zooms, and don't give a rat's ass about TS lenses or anything Canon has that Nikon doesn't.

I don't think people quite comprehend the mass exodus that took place over the last 3 years for landscape photography. Hopefully Canon hubris didn't cloud their judgement this time around, and they do the right thing. Otherwise, it's DOA. I spend a lot of time online and in the National Parks following what gear is being used, and Canon is not being used right now.

 

[Marsu42]

but but but... it's the system! Those people don't know what they're missing out on! CPS! CPS! CPS! Just ask any of the experts on photography here, like neuro!

Actually this is correct and wrong at the same time and no contradiction even if the usual flamewars indicate otherwise. CPS is really terrific if you're are an actual pro (like in "get things done in no time or get a free loan") or are well-off so you can benefit from Canon's whole high-end system.

But from my perspective and probably for the average layman it doesn't make that much of a difference if you buy Tamron/Sigma/Canon/... if you avoid the real cheap brands like Yongnuo or worse. For example, at my local cps center Tamron gets serviced quicker than Canon (unless you do have cps) and I've heard a lot of horror stories of very bad Canon customer service lately, look for some threads even on this board.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

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I don't think people quite comprehend the mass exodus that took place over the last 3 years for landscape photography. Hopefully Canon hubris didn't cloud their judgement this time around, and they do the right thing. Otherwise, it's DOA. I spend a lot of time online and in the National Parks following what gear is being used, and Canon is not being used right now.

but but but... it's the system! Those people don't know what they're missing out on! CPS! CPS! CPS!

Just ask any of the experts on photography here, like neuro!

Or just maybe all that those whom have switched have tried things like HDR, etc, and found that it doesn't deliver as well as native camera ability. Nah, couldn't be that. Anyone who switched must be a less than capable photographer. Afterall, what would a bunch of people that take photographs know? Internet Experts rule!

I keep using Canon because I do like the overall system more. But I am not going to pretend that the market doesn't demand more DR.

I've never missed a single shot using 2-3 shot bracketing on my Canon models, and I push the limits as far as anyone else out there.

It does take a bit more post work, but when you only have 10-30 keepers a year of high-end shots, it's not a big deal.

Believe me, I've been banging my head against a brick wall trying to point out how easy it is to get higher DR shots with Canon cameras, but people just won't have it.

Canon is my team and I want them to win the super bowl, but man, I have a feeling they are going to call a stupid 1st and goal pass play, when they have the powerhouse running back to push it into the end-zone for the death blow.

 

[3kramd5]

The 1Ds enjoyed a $2000-$3000 or so premium over the 1D.

Hard to see why Canon won't do the same for the 5Ds.

Canon realized 230% as many APS-H sensors per wafer versus Full Frame. That certainly played into the price. With 5D vs 5Ds, it's apples to apples.

 

[DavidD]

The Nikon D810 is about $3300 now so maybe $3799 MSRP at the most. I think the take rate will be a lot lower if it is more than 4K and 7.5, no way.

And the Estimation Oscar
(with absolutely zero authority whatsoever ;D )
in this poll goes to (drum roll please)
"TPhillips63" writing "maybe $3799 MSRP at the most" and
"cycleraw" with "One more vote for $3,799."

After B and H comes out with price of $3,699 and $3,899.

Three cheers !

 

[kphoto99]

The Nikon D810 is about $3300 now so maybe $3799 MSRP at the most. I think the take rate will be a lot lower if it is more than 4K and 7.5, no way.

And the Estimation Oscar
(with absolutely zero authority whatsoever ;D )
in this poll goes to (drum roll please)
"TPhillips63" writing "maybe $3799 MSRP at the most" and
"cycleraw" with "One more vote for $3,799."

After B and H comes out with price of $3,699 and $3,899.

Three cheers !

Not only that, but over 50% of voters selected the correct price bracket (3,501 to 4,000). The wisdom of the crowd

 

[Sporgon]

Interesting that in the UK the intro price ( and therefor I presume the RRP) of the 5Ds is about the same as the RRP of the 5DIII. Not sure if this is the same around the globe.