Poll: What Do You Think About the EOS Canon 6D Mark II?

[Canon Rumors]

<p>Now that we’ve seen Canon’s latest entry level full frame DSLR, it’s time to let us know what you think. We always hear all sorts of opinions after a product is announced, and the EOS 6D Mark II is no exception. We agree with some gripes, but not with others.</p>
<p>Cast your vote on the three polls below.</p>
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[chrysoberyl]

130 people or trolls are leaving Canon?! OK, 2 people and a bunch of trolls. I hope the trolls leave this forum, too.

 

[BeenThere]

Biggest gripe could be in a different category once the real world reviews are in. For instance, what is level of high ISO image noise? Is DR similar to the 5D4? etc.

Feature set seems to me to be well balanced for an entry level FF DSLR. Not trying to start a flame war, just stating an opinion.

 

[StudentOfLight]

I was expecting image quality improvements comparable to the 5D-IV vs 5D-III improvement. Based on DPReview article/samples this appears not to be the case. At least Canon makes the decision of not-to-buy something very easy.

 

[amorse]

Biggest gripe could be in a different category once the real world reviews are in. For instance, what is level of high ISO image noise? Is DR similar to the 5D4? etc.

Feature set seems to me to be well balanced for an entry level FF DSLR. Not trying to start a flame war, just stating an opinion.

Agreed, I need to see the DR performance first. That is definitely number 1 on my concern list. For me, everything else looks great and if the DR was at 5D IV or better I'd pre-order immediately. After the DPR article I am waiting for some in depth reviews.

 

[ethanz]

130 people or trolls are leaving Canon?! OK, 2 people and a bunch of trolls. I hope the trolls leave this forum, too.

A poll option of "I'm leaving Canon!" is just asking for trolls. I'll admit I was a little cheeky and hit that response.

 

[Ozarker]

130 people or trolls are leaving Canon?! OK, 2 people and a bunch of trolls. I hope the trolls leave this forum, too.

Why is it anyone who has a negative opion of a canon feature is immediately labeled a troll on this forum? Anyway, I'm sure this will be a fine camera. Hopefully improvements in image quality, Dynamic range and noise levels will be seen. I have to admit as someone who is wanting a first FF camera, I'm a bit dissapointed in the af point spread. I mostly shoot wildlife at the moment and the tilting screen would be a huge plus for me as well as cleaner images than what I'm getting from my 7D....Troll? I would also love to see vCanon pull the low pass filter on these cameras. At the bery least the 7D series, as a camera designed for sports and wildlife, every bit of sharpness counts. Anyway, with any luck good things will be said about the new 6D and maybe will be able to pick up a used or refurbished one down the road.

Why do some people who have a negative opinion of a Canon feature say they are jumping ship? Because they are trolls. At the least they are brats.

Not everyone, as you state, that has a negative opinion of a Canon feature is called a troll. The trolls are the people always claiming they are going to leave because Canon doesn't innovate etc... never leave. They keep coming back to the forum to troll.

The trolls are those who expect Canon to make a camera just for them. Forget profits and the market.

 

[dak723]

130 people or trolls are leaving Canon?! OK, 2 people and a bunch of trolls. I hope the trolls leave this forum, too.

Why is it anyone who has a negative opion of a canon feature is immediately labeled a troll on this forum? Anyway, I'm sure this will be a fine camera. Hopefully improvements in image quality, Dynamic range and noise levels will be seen. I have to admit as someone who is wanting a first FF camera, I'm a bit dissapointed in the af point spread. I mostly shoot wildlife at the moment and the tilting screen would be a huge plus for me as well as cleaner images than what I'm getting from my 7D....Troll? I would also love to see vCanon pull the low pass filter on these cameras. At the bery least the 7D series, as a camera designed for sports and wildlife, every bit of sharpness counts. Anyway, with any luck good things will be said about the new 6D and maybe will be able to pick up a used or refurbished one down the road.

No one ever labels everyone who has a negative opinion of Canon a troll. Anyone who gives rational opinions and can express them without whining like a 7 year old is clearly not a troll. Unfortunately, many of the naysayers do fall into the troll category.

Now that Canon is using on sensor adc, there should no doubt be an improvement in noise and DR.

Pulling the low pass filter on a 26 MP camera would be a big mistake. As pixels get smaller, there is less chance of moire, but the pixels on the 6D are still fairly large.

 

[Bernard]

My biggest (and only) gripe is the lack of interchangeable screens, but I wasn't given that option to choose that, ironically.

 

[Barbu64]

130 people or trolls are leaving Canon?! OK, 2 people and a bunch of trolls. I hope the trolls leave this forum, too.

Why is it anyone who has a negative opion of a canon feature is immediately labeled a troll on this forum?
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I'm one of those that didn't just vote, but already bought another brand (three weeks ago, and still thrilled about it).
But still, the 6DmkII looks fine to me; but I'm just using my DSLRs (3 now, and had 2 more which I already sold) for photography.
For the life of me, I really don't get how a basic camera has the main fault the lack of 4K. Do you fault the 200D for not having a full-frame sensor?
Also, a lot of people are taking issue with the fact that it doesn't have dual memory slots; again, in a basic camera it's weird to ask for more. If anything, I'm amazed that fewer people chose the „UHS-I” as a potential fault; the buffer limit is occuring way more often than a card fault that would be saved by the second slot.

 

[paxfoto]

AF spread is a big issue for me. I'm a bit tired on focus and compose and hearing the number of AF points I was really set to buy this to replace my 5D classic.

But right now I have decided not to buy it. But I will wait for the reviews and then try it in a shop before making the final decision.

I will probably end up with a Sony A7 III.

 

[miketcool]

I'm super happy with this announcement. I can use this as my backup body because it shoots 4K time-lapse video, cutting my workflow down significantly.

If you're complaining about lack of 4K video because Sony is doing it, lookup how the heat issues in their tiny mirrorless cameras are effecting their reliability. Overheating and heat related malfunctioning is causing professionals to rethink their purchases. If I want a serious 4K camera to shoot LOG, I want to make sure that it won't cause premature death or failure to the device keeping food on my table. This is an excellent update for a very lightweight companion to my Canon 5Dmkiv. Great work!

 

[Deleted member 91053]

For me and my uses this (6D2) looks like a VERY significant upgrade over the Mk1!

On paper, the frame rate, goodly number of cross type AF points, potentially better sensor etc look great. Remember that I am looking at the 6D2 as, primarily, a landscape/travel camera. Whilst the 6D was pretty good for this sort of thing the Mk2 makes it a very much better backup for my primary use - namely wildlife.

For me all the Wi Fi, GPS, video, BlueTooth twoddle is simply irrelevant - don't know how to turn it on and don't want to find out. I just regret the funds spent on R&D for these "Features" that I have to pay for.

The single card slot is not an issue for me (yet, touch wood, to have a card fail) but I would have preferred double CF card slots - either way so long as it has a decent buffer I don't care.

I wouldn't normally want a flippy screen but currently I have fluid on my right knee so I will revise that opinion!

I am sure that some reviewers/owners will find aspects of this camera that will be below par and other aspects that are top drawer - I will wait and see but it is looking promising so far for me and my uses.

 

[Jopa]

130 people or trolls are leaving Canon?! OK, 2 people and a bunch of trolls. I hope the trolls leave this forum, too.

Lots of trolls indeed. The camera is quite awesome.
I'm wondering if continuous AF works in LV via DPAF for stills? If that's the case - the limited PDAF sensor size is not a huge deal.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I've pre-ordered one to hold my place while I look at the 80D and 5D MK IV. I was able to use a demo 80D today, I brought a SD card and CF card to my local camera store and took a dozen shots using the 18-55mm lens on the camera. I was impressed by the responsiveness of the DPAF as well as the standard PDAF. It was not a thorough test. I just finished reviewing the images and they were as expected. The lens had noticeable CA's even at f/5.6, but at a normal magnification, they were fine.

I need to review the specifications closely to see how they would work for me. The camera was small, but felt solid.

The store was out of 5D MK IV's, so I may try a different store in a few days. I'm tempted to get a 80D, but would then spend another several hundred to get a wider lens which I would not need with a 6D II, so my total cost would be close to the same.

I went to a local photo swap last night, just a few sellers, and fewer customers. I noticed a D800E for sale, in original box, along with about 8 or 9 lenses. $1000 asking price for the 800E. I guess its old now, that had not sunk in.

 

[magarity]

The "will you buy one" wants an option for "yes but not until next year or 18 months when it goes on special". I got 6D about a year ago and just can't justify replacing a perfectly good camera so quickly.

 

[David_B]

I've been reading lots of posts on this website about the 6D Mark II and decided to write first post for this poll.

This camera looks good but who is it for?

Right now I have the 80D and iPhone 7. My iPhone is perfect for all of my "on-the-go" photos, including birthdays, etc, and if I want to be a little more serious, the 80D is giving me lovely images. The 6D Mark II will need to offer much more impressive images for me to upgrade from the 80D. If I was still using the 70D or 7D Mark II or some earlier Canon camera, sure I will upgrade to 6D Mark II but with the 80D, I don't need it.

When I shoot video, I'm never using my 80D, just the iPhone, same as my friends that do video. I'm thinking that the video train has already left the station and Canon is still standing on the platform. So I don't mind no 4K in the 6D Mark II.

I think this Canon camera is just for people that already own Canon and want to stay with Canon. It doesn't have good video to make people give up another camera or brand for this one if they do video and nobody that use other brand for photos is going to move for it because they already got good images too.

This is perfect camera for people that already own earlier Canon cameras and want to upgrade or have bigger Canon cameras and want to add something else (the flip-panel for video is something that more expensive cameras don't do.)

Hope that's all ok.

 

[jd7]

Nothing on the list of gripes is anything I'm really worried. I nearly voted for the AF point spread issue, but when you look at diagrams/pics which seem to show the AF point spread isn't really too different from other (Canon) full-frame cameras, it's hard to see it as a real problem. I ended up voting for the UHS-1 slot (as a gripe, I mean) because I guess if it was faster it should mean you could should longer bursts before the camera slowed down, but really I just shouldn't have voted for a gripe, given the options.

My real gripe is the lack of a joystick. No, I didn't expect the 6DII would get one. Yes, I can see Canon seems to be reserving that for 1-series, 5 series and 7 series. And I've seen others say it wouldn't have been possible/practical to include a joystick as well as the flippy screen (I think the argument is it wouldn't have been possible without increasing the size of the camera). Personally though, if I had the choice I'd take a joystick over the flippy screen without hesitating. I realise not everyone will feel the same about that.

Anyway, the 6DII is sounding really good to me overall. I will wait for reviews from independent reviewers, but I expect it will end up on my shopping list at some point.

 

[Sarpedon]

Why do some people who have a negative opinion of a Canon feature say they are jumping ship? Because they are trolls. At the least they are brats.

Not everyone, as you state, that has a negative opinion of a Canon feature is called a troll. The trolls are the people always claiming they are going to leave because Canon doesn't innovate etc... never leave. They keep coming back to the forum to troll.

The trolls are those who expect Canon to make a camera just for them. Forget profits and the market.

I think this forum has another problem not quite but almost as big as the "trolls", who are quite real and quite annoying. It's the people who almost as mindlessly defend any choice Canon makes, and who have the nasty habit of feeding those selfsame trolls by responding repeatedly and angrily to every single one of them--or even bemoaning the trolls before they've actually appeared on a thread. I think some of Canon's zealous defenders on this board are a bit too zealous, and should consider their own behavior and the effect it has on the atmosphere on this forum. To those people I say: take a deep breath, don't feed the trolls, don't condescend and insult, and don't treat every complaint as if it comes from the keyboard of a troll.

I'm considering jumping ship myself. I shoot a lot of manual focus and wide aperture lenses, and with the 6D Mark II, Canon (like Nikon), has shown that it isn't friendly to photographers who shoot that way. So I'm in the sad position of considering a switch to Sony, which means dealing with all of their problems (battery life, haptics, slow response time, etc). I'm an experienced photographer and I know what I'm doing. I'm going to take a long time to see the reviews and consider my options, but I may very well jump ship over this one issue. And I also happen to think that Canon should have included 4K, even though I don't shoot and don't care about video. So, am I a troll?

My biggest (and only) gripe is the lack of interchangeable screens, but I wasn't given that option to choose that, ironically.

Yeah, this is my biggest gripe, too.

Also, a lot of people are taking issue with the fact that it doesn't have dual memory slots; again, in a basic camera it's weird to ask for more. If anything, I'm amazed that fewer people chose the „UHS-I” as a potential fault; the buffer limit is occuring way more often than a card fault that would be saved by the second slot.

I actually think this is a fair complaint. Nikon offers dual slots on both the D610 and the D750, the 6D II's most obvious competitors. It's not really a basic camera, and Canon knows that a lot of pros and aspiring pros will use it, as they did the original 6D.

 

[duppencf]

Good updates...my next body is likely to be A7 III or A7r II, but I will keep my 6D around for now. Waiting for DR and ISO performance, which could swing me back this way if it's really outstanding.

I'm not a troll and I picked the "leaving canon" option. Nothing wrong with the camera, just that the competition is doing a lot right now compared to this.