Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?

Poll: Would you buy a high MP Canon EOS 5DIV?


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Would I buy a high MP Canon EOS 5D4?
YES! (with provisos)

Until the D800, I had been a loyal Canon user since my first real digital camera.
In this last generation of cameras (5D3, D800), half of all of my friends and associates (pro and amateur) have switched away from Canon, to either Nikon or Sony.

File storage cost is not an issue for me. Storage is extremely cheap, all things considered, and continues to get cheaper!

Cost-effective image quality is paramount for me. (A $50,000+ "medium-format" system is not cost effective for me.) Image quality includes dynamic range, noise, resolution, banding and other artifacts, false-color, and many other factors.

At significant cost and inconvenience I switched from Canon to Nikon and went with the D800 instead of the Canon 5D3. I wanted to stay with Canon. But the Nikon files are much more malleable in that I can better enhance shadow detail and dynamic range.

I am a full-time pro and do aerial photography, architecture, landscapes, cityscapes, portraiture, lifestyle, and product photography. The image quality that the Nikon D800 series gives me is currently the best solution for me.
The physical attributes of the camera are acceptable (focusing, button placement, ergonomics, etc.). The 5D3 is better in some ways, and the D800 is better in some ways, so it is a wash. Both do a pretty good job in creating a physically usable photographic tool.

Would I go back to Canon if they offered higher image quality?
Yes, but only if it were extremely compelling.
I am sick of Canon's betraying me and their lack of good faith. (likewise with Nikon). Canon could and should provide a camera with these productivity features that most pros need or could use:
This is mostly technology that is current and readily available even on some of the cheapest consumer-grade cameras!
  • Built-in Wi-Fi
  • Built-in GPS with automatic clock and time-zone setting (I always need to know where a file was captured, and always need my clock and time zone to be accurate. And having to reset the clocks on 5-20 devices every time I cross a time zone (sometimes multiple times per day) is absurd!!!)
  • User-configurable "A-Dep" to accurately control depth of field
  • Speech recognition IPTC field data insertion, and voice memo
  • Excellent image quality with 50MP+ resolution

Lenses that are fully up to the task are a crucial part of this mix. Sigma seems to be taking this seriously with their "Art" line of lenses. Truly excellent zoom lenses in the $1000-$2500 price range seem reasonable. We already have some truly excellent primes for as little as $125 (Canon 50mm f1.8 ).

Bayer technology has some inherently huge limitations to image quality, but most of those can be overcome by increased sampling (higher resolution).

YES!!!! I want a high MP (50MP+) camera (5D4?) from Canon!!!
A lower resolution (25MP), and higher-ISO 6D camera line could directly handle the niche needs of event-only photographers, who sometimes crank out a HUGE number of frames per day.
But Canon are really going to have to up their game to win me (and many of my friends and associates) back!
 
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Dave Sucsy said:
YES!!!! I want a high MP (50MP+) camera (5D4?) from Canon!!!
A lower resolution (25MP), and higher-ISO 6D camera line could directly handle the niche needs of event-only photographers, who sometimes crank out a HUGE number of frames per day.
But Canon are really going to have to up their game to win me (and many of my friends and associates) back!
Event-only photographers are a niche market? ;D ;D ;D ;D This is the largest market for Canon and the reason for its leadership in sales. ::) In most countries the photographers who make events work with 60D and 6D. :o In richer countries 5D Mark ii, and 5D Mark iii are most at events. ???

D800 and D800E was a niche market, the same as 1DS Mark iii was. ;)
 
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If I had all the money in the world I would buy a 100MP medium format body.
The majority of the time I can take a few seconds to set up each shot. More FPS is better, it would be nice to shoot BIF with the same body, but if Canon produced a body with an insanely high megapixel count and low FPS I wouldn't complain.
 
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My highest interest would be guaranteed if not only the resolution
would increase (moderately) but much more important: A new sensor
doing away with color problems that Bayer patterns bring to the table.
And a global shutter that serves both for video as well as overcomes
the x-sync barrier. And more ISO power.

A 3 or 4 layer sensor might cope much better with discontinuous light
sources such as fluorescent and many LEDs, and global flash sync would
be a godsent for sports with flash.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
Event-only photographers are a niche market?

A niche market need not necessarily be a small market. Diapers are also a niche market ... ;D

Also interesting is that you mentioned four different cameras as being used by "event-only" photographers. If Canon was really on the ball with their cameras, then all "event-only" photographers would be using the same camera. But four different cameras simply means that these photographers are compromising due to what is offered. (And then we're not even counting all those RX100's and X-Pro's in use by said niche market.)
 
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Maiaibing said:
Sella174 said:
AlanF said:
I would buy if it had a crop mode so I didn't have to download horrendously huge files.

That feature is called a 70D and you already own one. :D
Its also in both the 5DII and 5DIII as well as in the Nikon D800 and D810 - so I can venture to say already; It will!

The 5DIII and 5DIII have a crop mode? News to me... mRAW and sRAW deliver the full FoV, as do the more compressed JPG files. A crop mode delivers a FoV less than the full sensor.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Maiaibing said:
AlanF said:
I would buy if it had a crop mode so I didn't have to download horrendously huge files.
Its also in both the 5DII and 5DIII as well as in the Nikon D800 and D810 - so I can venture to say already; It will!
The 5DIII and 5DIII have a crop mode?

No, my answer was to the main question which was about avoiding huge files.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
No, but I'd likely buy a high MP 1-series body.
You don't know as yet, but I know you will buy the 7D2, despite what you already stated.

Because it has an amazing autofocus.

Because GPS is a feature that will be very useful in many situations.

Because you'll admit to yourself that price is not the only advantage of a crop body (well, you already admitted it when you recently modified your previous convinction by stating that it's the main advantage, not that you were wrong before, but because the 7D2 didn't exist yet): apart from the other advantages, you might find that, with good light, your 600L on its 20 MP sensor produces better images than 600L+1,4x extender on FF without losing 1 f/stop and with the plus of slightly more reach.

Because having 1Dx+600 and 7D2+70-300 handy (or the opposite on occasion) can be really useful.

Because it's a nice toy to play with.

Because it's cheap, it costs only a small fraction of the value of all your gear put together.

Because the Black Rapid Double Strap is cool.

But, most of all, because I need your hands-on advice to help me decide: 70D or 7D2? :) :) :)

Preorder now!
 
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I'm holding out for a 5DIV in the hopes of it having significantly better IQ over the MkII that I have. Not concerned with megapixels at this moment in my photographic life. The 20 or so that I have now seems to work just fine, I would be fine with something like 24MP. Anything more would mean upgrading my laptop, software and getting more HD's etc etc.
 
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Well, it would depend on a few things.

Firstly, does a high mega pixel camera mean geared towards only landscape shots or will it have a competent AF system that will make me feel easy about shootings events on it?

I don't want a lumbering beast that only does 3-5 fps and would take too long to write images to a card.
 
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This is what I'd like to see in a new 5 d order of importance:

Same mount or at least use of current lenses w/o adapter.

MP in range of 26-36 for better crop resolution. I expect we'll get 24MP.

Gain in high ISO quality, decreased noise. One stop would be wonderful.

Better autofocus.

Wifi and gps and eos utility for iOS to tether to ipad. Built in radio flash control

6-8 frames per sec.

Price $3500 range compete w d810


And almost last in order of importance to me better DR.

Intervalometer, focus bracketing. No loss of current functions HDR etc.
 
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When Canon finally gets into the high MP game, I would probably buy either a 1D series or a 5D series regardless of price in the 40MP area or better. As a landscape guy I don't need a fast camera but I would like one with a large buffer with a frame rate of 3 fps is probably good enough but for 50 raw full res images for tracking slow moving animals. The frame rate should be programmable.

Are things so bad now - NO. I love my D800 series cameras but I miss the Canon tilt shift lenses. I also have some other favorite Canon lenses but I'm not going to put any more money into Canon until they have the high MP camera. I'd rather not hear about market share or the issues confronting Canon marketing. I have no doubt that Canon will continue to prosper very well with out a high MP camera and does not need to have a photographer such as myself. However, if Canon wishes to sell equipment to folks like me, they will need to bring some sort of high MP product to market. And NO development announcement of a sensor or camera will do me any good. No announcement of a product next year, or the year after, or the year after that will help Canon or me.

I can wait. Too bad because that new 400mm DO lens looks tempting.....
 
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