Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Free CFast Card & Reader About to End
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I agree, it's absolute madness.
When I buy expensive CF cards I buy them from the States and get them sent to Hong Kong which is next door to where the things are made. They still cost well over half (about a quarter of the price) of what they would have cost to buy locally! And that's just a few hundred US dollars worth of gear. Crazy.
GuyF said:
I agree, it's absolute madness.
When I buy expensive CF cards I buy them from the States and get them sent to Hong Kong which is next door to where the things are made. They still cost well over half (about a quarter of the price) of what they would have cost to buy locally! And that's just a few hundred US dollars worth of gear. Crazy.
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And on top of that, your risk of getting a fake CF card drops significantly at the same time.
Ecco has a shoe factory just outside Xiamen (China), and in the city a pair of men's shoes would be ~2500DKK. In Denmark, they were maybe 900DKK - and I could get the 25% VAT returned, when I lived in Xiamen. The mind boggles.
expatinasia said:
And on top of that, your risk of getting a fake CF card drops significantly at the same time.
Ecco has a shoe factory just outside Xiamen (China), and in the city a pair of men's shoes would be ~2500DKK. In Denmark, they were maybe 900DKK - and I could get the 25% VAT returned, when I lived in Xiamen. The mind boggles.
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Are you in Alberta (no sales tax)? I'm debating how to proceed here in Edmonton. Last purchase was the 11-24 from McBains. I take it you deal with Canon Canada?
Jack
arbitrage said:
Are you in Alberta (no sales tax)? I'm debating how to proceed here in Edmonton. Last purchase was the 11-24 from McBains. I take it you deal with Canon Canada?
Jack
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Re: Preorder: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II
Really? $1300 off? I got my Platnium CPS membership right after I bought my first 1DX, so I didn't take advantage. If it's really $1300 off, I'm definitely buying the Mark II.
I'm heading straight to The Camera Store in Calgary when I'm home from London in March!
arbitrage said:
Really? $1300 off? I got my Platnium CPS membership right after I bought my first 1DX, so I didn't take advantage. If it's really $1300 off, I'm definitely buying the Mark II.
I'm heading straight to The Camera Store in Calgary when I'm home from London in March!
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@Eldar: I guess, the 24 MP are reserved for the 5DIV ;-) Hopefully the A/D converter is on chip as well...
Eldar said:Preorder is now open here in Norway, so I pushed the button. I hope to have seen enough initial reviews and sample shots to make a more qualified decision before cancellation rights are gone (which I won´t use anyway ... :)
I would have liked to see a few more pixels, like 24MP, but 20,2 will do. Full AF functionality (almost) at f8 is awesome and combined with further improvements in the AF system, excessive buffer capacity, improved DR and apparently also shadow noise, makes it worth it. Close to 9MP frame grabs from 4k at 60 fps will also be a cool feature to try. I am also very interested in the silent mode(s). If it is anything like the 5DSR, it is most welcome.
@Eldar: I guess, the 24 MP are reserved for the 5DIV ;-) Hopefully the A/D converter is on chip as well...
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Don't suppose any of the Canadian CPS members can buy 2 please, lol, or any Canadian CPS members not interested in a MK II can I use your offer please (my best friend lives in Toronto!) ? ;D ;D
Can$6700 is approx £3350... ouch
I appreciate we have a far higher sales tax which is why UK prices are much higher, but even so. £3350 would be a steal and go nicely with my 1DX. I might even consider "selling" my 1Ds mk IIIs, lol
PS not serious... it would not be worth the risk to your CPS !
Don't suppose any of the Canadian CPS members can buy 2 please, lol, or any Canadian CPS members not interested in a MK II can I use your offer please (my best friend lives in Toronto!) ? ;D ;D
Can$6700 is approx £3350... ouch
I appreciate we have a far higher sales tax which is why UK prices are much higher, but even so. £3350 would be a steal and go nicely with my 1DX. I might even consider "selling" my 1Ds mk IIIs, lol
PS not serious... it would not be worth the risk to your CPS !
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The Camera is packed with features, but the 4k may tempt some videographers, but...and its a big but...No built in ND filters, focus peaking, Zebra and all the other bells and whistles for a 'serious' cinematographer?
No doubt the overall specs of the camera pack a punch.
Wouldn't it be great, if they packed in a built in ND filter? :
The Camera is packed with features, but the 4k may tempt some videographers, but...and its a big but...No built in ND filters, focus peaking, Zebra and all the other bells and whistles for a 'serious' cinematographer?
No doubt the overall specs of the camera pack a punch.
Wouldn't it be great, if they packed in a built in ND filter? :
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Last I checked, this was a photo camera with some video functions. Expecting full video/cinema features on a DSLR is not only realistic but drives the price way up than the $6k mark. A serious photographer, where this camera is aimed for, wouldn't even touch it if that was the case.
Berty Rampkin said:The Camera is packed with features, but the 4k may tempt some videographers, but...and its a big but...No built in ND filters, focus peaking, Zebra and all the other bells and whistles for a 'serious' cinematographer?
No doubt the overall specs of the camera pack a punch.
Wouldn't it be great, if they packed in a built in ND filter? :
Last I checked, this was a photo camera with some video functions. Expecting full video/cinema features on a DSLR is not only realistic but drives the price way up than the $6k mark. A serious photographer, where this camera is aimed for, wouldn't even touch it if that was the case.
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At some point Canon had to distinguish it from the C300 II. True, a built in ND filter would be really nice. The Canon 1DC is best suited to shoot video at an ISO of 400. We are not sure that will be the case for the 1DxII, but we can figure that there will be an optimum ISO value. So, at a higher ISO than 100, then the ND filter definitely comes into play to get exposure or to narrow DOF. (The 1Dc should actually be under exposed a bit.) Having a built in ND would be very, very convenient.
Again using the 1Dc as a benchmark, I understand that it can internally record 4K and simultaneously externally record HD to an external device such an Atomos Ninja 2. I am expecting the 1DxII to do that too. The Ninja does have peaking and Zebra features, so we could get at it that way.
I am very surprised that the 1DxII doesn't have C- Log. I use Technicolor Cinestyle in my other cameras and I would likely load it on the 1DxII. That will have to do until Canon would do a firmware upgrade, which we can never, ever count on happening.
Good luck it you buy one. I am getting close to pulling the trigger.
Berty Rampkin said:The Camera is packed with features, but the 4k may tempt some videographers, but...and its a big but...No built in ND filters, focus peaking, Zebra and all the other bells and whistles for a 'serious' cinematographer?
No doubt the overall specs of the camera pack a punch.
Wouldn't it be great, if they packed in a built in ND filter? :
At some point Canon had to distinguish it from the C300 II. True, a built in ND filter would be really nice. The Canon 1DC is best suited to shoot video at an ISO of 400. We are not sure that will be the case for the 1DxII, but we can figure that there will be an optimum ISO value. So, at a higher ISO than 100, then the ND filter definitely comes into play to get exposure or to narrow DOF. (The 1Dc should actually be under exposed a bit.) Having a built in ND would be very, very convenient.
Again using the 1Dc as a benchmark, I understand that it can internally record 4K and simultaneously externally record HD to an external device such an Atomos Ninja 2. I am expecting the 1DxII to do that too. The Ninja does have peaking and Zebra features, so we could get at it that way.
I am very surprised that the 1DxII doesn't have C- Log. I use Technicolor Cinestyle in my other cameras and I would likely load it on the 1DxII. That will have to do until Canon would do a firmware upgrade, which we can never, ever count on happening.
Good luck it you buy one. I am getting close to pulling the trigger.
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But why order this camera with regards to its video? One should not! It ONLY provides 422 8 Bit HDMI out. This is the same as the 5D Mark III for god sake. Anyone shooting 4K knows that 4K requires MORE detail sharpness, more greyscale information and more color information. For example the $1600 GH4 has 10 bit 422. Good grief Canon this is just not acceptable in a $6000 plus state of the art top of the line camera.
But why order this camera with regards to its video? One should not! It ONLY provides 422 8 Bit HDMI out. This is the same as the 5D Mark III for god sake. Anyone shooting 4K knows that 4K requires MORE detail sharpness, more greyscale information and more color information. For example the $1600 GH4 has 10 bit 422. Good grief Canon this is just not acceptable in a $6000 plus state of the art top of the line camera.
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You seem to know a lot about 4K through HDMI, can you give an example of a recorder for 4K at 60fps and how much does it cost? I am just weighing my options (if this would happen someday)?Tiderace said:
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I don't believe this camera supports external 4K recording, only HD. It is the same as the 1Dc in that regard.
But I will say that as a benchmark the 1Dc internal 4K is pretty good. (Yes 10 bit is better, no doubt.) It can be graded, and there are lots of online examples. For my 2 cents the biggest things about 4K on this camera is the 60 FPS and the ability to re-frame for HD. That, I can definitely make use of right now. It means I can shoot a scene in 4K and then select optimal HD subframes. This adds a lot of flexibility and will make the HD productions better.
Besisika said:
I don't believe this camera supports external 4K recording, only HD. It is the same as the 1Dc in that regard.
But I will say that as a benchmark the 1Dc internal 4K is pretty good. (Yes 10 bit is better, no doubt.) It can be graded, and there are lots of online examples. For my 2 cents the biggest things about 4K on this camera is the 60 FPS and the ability to re-frame for HD. That, I can definitely make use of right now. It means I can shoot a scene in 4K and then select optimal HD subframes. This adds a lot of flexibility and will make the HD productions better.
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That is why you buy a C100, C300, etc. for serious cinematography that has all of the bells and whistles!
Mechanically, it would place the DLSR at a disadvantage to have a ND mechanism for tolerances at the front with the mirror mechanism. Even at the back, other issues would come into play. If Canon added 15+ stops of DR, like what Nikon has been achieving, and optimized light metering for highlights, then you would not need to worry about ND filters.
Berty Rampkin said:The Camera is packed with features, but the 4k may tempt some videographers, but...and its a big but...No built in ND filters, focus peaking, Zebra and all the other bells and whistles for a 'serious' cinematographer?
No doubt the overall specs of the camera pack a punch.
Wouldn't it be great, if they packed in a built in ND filter? :
That is why you buy a C100, C300, etc. for serious cinematography that has all of the bells and whistles!
Mechanically, it would place the DLSR at a disadvantage to have a ND mechanism for tolerances at the front with the mirror mechanism. Even at the back, other issues would come into play. If Canon added 15+ stops of DR, like what Nikon has been achieving, and optimized light metering for highlights, then you would not need to worry about ND filters.
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