Prosumer Level Canon Mirrorless Camera to Have 4K [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

We’re told that “at least one of the three mirrorless cameras coming in 2016 will feature 4K video recording”, though the size of the image sensor was unknown.</p>
<p>We’ve heard from a few places that we’ll see a fixed lens mirroress camera along the lines of the Leica Q and Sony RX1 R, but we don’t know what the sensor size would be, one would hope it would be full frame. The other two mirrorless cameras would be a new APS-C model, as well as the introduction of a full frame model, which we assume would be the camera most likely to shoot 4K.</p>
<p>The current estimate on when such products would be announced is the end of August, in time for Photokina 2016 in Cologne, Germany.</p>
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[Pitbullo]

This is great news!
Looking forward to the FF mirrorless from Canon.

 

[Chaitanya]

Since this is Canon related rumour, this camera wont come in 2016 but somtime after 2020 when 6k/8k will be standard across the competition.

 

[Etienne]

Announced in August, delivered by Christmas. You need the patience of Job to wait for a top MILC from Canon.
I hope it at least has DPAF.

 

[gargamel]

Just speculating, but: Could it be that this mirrorless FF camera is the 6D Mk II?
We have heard that the 6D gets a successor this year and that it would be smaller than the original 6D. Small size and light weight are key features of mirrorless cameras. Many landscape photographers are currently using Sony cameras with Canon lenses. Also, the time would just perfectly fit for a 6D replacement --- announcement at Photokina, starting sales around Christmas.

What do you think: Could this make sense?

gargamel

 

[gn100]

Just speculating, but: Could it be that this mirrorless FF camera is the 6D Mk II?
We have heard that the 6D gets a successor this year and that it would be smaller than the original 6D. Small size and light weight are key features of mirrorless cameras. Many landscape photographers are currently using Sony cameras with Canon lenses. Also, the time would just perfectly fit for a 6D replacement --- announcement at Photokina, starting sales around Christmas.

What do you think: Could this make sense?

gargamel

I was wondering exactly the same thing - it would make sense to introduce FF mirrorless more at the consumer level, where demand would be greater, and many users of the 6D would have been swayed by the smaller size than the 5D.

 

[jebrady03]

I don't think it makes sense at all.

If a FF mirrorless is introduced, it will have the "M" product line name. Not the typical DSLR naming convention. So, IMO, if a product is labeled 6D Mark II, it will be a DSLR.

Now, might they introduce a FF mirrorless which would appeal to current 6D users, or be of similar specification/ability to a 6D Mark II? Sure. That's possible. Heck, they might even name it the Canon EOS 6M - just so people know where it's intended to fit. But I don't think it'll REPLACE the 6D. I think there will be a 6D Mark II with a mirror. That camera is practically a necessity. The 6D was/is immensely popular. Nikon has the D610 and also the D750. Canon can't afford not to have a camera in the lineup below the 5D series to compete with shoppers who can't swing $3k for a camera body but still want a FF sensor, when Nikon has 2 product line offerings.

If you think like a business person, things like this are obvious. If you think like a camera enthusiast, you end up with posts wondering if the 6D will be replaced by a mirrorless camera. There's room for both in this world (and much more), but one is fantasy while the other makes sense.

 

[Diltiazem]

Just speculating, but: Could it be that this mirrorless FF camera is the 6D Mk II?
We have heard that the 6D gets a successor this year and that it would be smaller than the original 6D. Small size and light weight are key features of mirrorless cameras. Many landscape photographers are currently using Sony cameras with Canon lenses. Also, the time would just perfectly fit for a 6D replacement --- announcement at Photokina, starting sales around Christmas.

What do you think: Could this make sense?

gargamel

6D replacement will be a DSLR. Canon will sell 4-5 times more with a DSLR than mirrorless for 6D replacement. But it is quite possible that Canon's first FF mirrorless will have similar specs as 6DII.

 

[deletemyaccount]

Just speculating, but: Could it be that this mirrorless FF camera is the 6D Mk II?
We have heard that the 6D gets a successor this year and that it would be smaller than the original 6D. Small size and light weight are key features of mirrorless cameras. Many landscape photographers are currently using Sony cameras with Canon lenses. Also, the time would just perfectly fit for a 6D replacement --- announcement at Photokina, starting sales around Christmas.

What do you think: Could this make sense?

gargamel

I have to agree with you. The 6D was a great money maker for Canon and I can't see the II NOT being a DSLR. Some type of twist of fate would have this replaced as a mirrorless and probably not within my lifetime.

6D replacement will be a DSLR. Canon will sell 4-5 times more with a DSLR than mirrorless for 6D replacement. But it is quite possible that Canon's first FF mirrorless will have similar specs as 6DII.

 

[ecka]

This is great news!
Looking forward to the FF mirrorless from Canon.

Yeah, for six years now. :-\

 

[martti]

Now that would be great, wouldn't it. 8)

 

[brad-man]

I hope we'll be getting a lens or two to go with this cornucopia of mirrorless goodness. Seven cameras with just five lenses (4 slow) just doesn't seem quite right. 8)

 

[douglaurent]

Don't try too hard with 4K, Canon. It's still early if you increase the video resolution in a sub 10k camera for the first time at the 10th anniversary of the 5D2, in 2018. When you are the last of the manufacturers who offers 4K on a broad basis. While you have proven with the 1DC you could have been the first.

 

[Loswr]

Don't try too hard with 4K, Canon. It's still early if you increase the video resolution in a sub 10k camera for the first time at the 10th anniversary of the 5D2, in 2018. When you are the last of the manufacturers who offers 4K on a broad basis. While you have proven with the 1DC you could have been the first.

Well, that's great advice. After all, the sales data show how badly Canon's market share has suffered. Clearly, 4K is critically important to a vast majority of buyers.

 

[rrcphoto]

We’re told that “at least one of the three mirrorless cameras coming in 2016 will feature 4K video recording”, though the size of the image sensor was unknown.</p>
<p>We’ve heard from a few places that we’ll see a fixed lens mirroress camera along the lines of the Leica Q and Sony RX1 R, but we don’t know what the sensor size would be, one would hope it would be full frame. The other two mirrorless cameras would be a new APS-C model, as well as the introduction of a full frame model, which we assume would be the camera most likely to shoot 4K.</p>
<p>The current estimate on when such products would be announced is the end of August, in time for Photokina 2016 in Cologne, Germany.</p>
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except you're guessing.

there's been no real credible rumor about canon doing a full frame mirrorless to date, outside of "we're looking at it to see if it's worthwhile".

it would be dumb as f.. for canon to come out with a FF mirrorless when they can't even support a APS-C mirrorless in terms of optics.

btw, WTF is a fixed lens mirrorless - that's a fixed lens compact.

canon coming out with three mirrorless in 2016-17 makes sense. they would be refreshing the M10, M3 and a newer model that has a built in EVF - matching basically the powershot Gx series.

 

[Khufu]

Are people here (or in general) reeeally that into 4K? I see/hear lots of regret/dismissal of the 5DS bodies due to the large files, is the 4K situation not going to be similar?
I'm personally disappointed that Canon generally only offer 720p at double the desirable frame rate and file size, with no 16:9 576p or even 480p at 16:9...

 

[Woody]

canon coming out with three mirrorless in 2016-17 makes sense. they would be refreshing the M10, M3 and a newer model that has a built in EVF - matching basically the powershot Gx series.

+1. My sentiments too.

 

[mustafa]

The 6D was/is immensely popular.

Evidence?

 

[rrcphoto]

The 6D was/is immensely popular.

Evidence?

the concept that it and the 5D Mark III have for most of their lifespans been the top FF cameras on amazon.com?

 

[rrcphoto]

Are people here (or in general) reeeally that into 4K? I see/hear lots of regret/dismissal of the 5DS bodies due to the large files, is the 4K situation not going to be similar?
I'm personally disappointed that Canon generally only offer 720p at double the desirable frame rate and file size, with no 16:9 576p or even 480p at 16:9...

most of the people crying about 4k would never shoot it, but just want to see it on a spec - look my camera shoots 4k..

anyone that is seriously needing 4K is already shooting it, and not waiting for canon.