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GP.Masserano

GP.Masserano

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#1
My current equipment: Canon EOS 7DmkII + 8/16 Sigma + 24/70 f4 L + 100 macro f2.8 L + 100/400 L mkII + 24/105 STM for photos of nature and travel.
I would like to broaden the kit for the landscape with Canon EOS 6D (for use in particular with 24/70 or 24/105 STM) and 70/300 USM IS L (that i prefer to 70/200 F4 L is)
Questions for super-experts : it is a good choice?
Canon has intention to leave in the near future a MK2 version of 6D ?
(I would NOT buy a camera FF to 1300euros and then discover that is going to be a version MK2... :(

Thanks for your answers!
 
#2
I would not expect you to see any noticeable difference from adding a 6D, your 7D MK II can pickup good detail. The advantage of FF tends to be toward low light use.

You would likely notice more difference by adding a high end Canon lens like the 11-24mm L f/4 the on your 7D MK II
 
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#3
The 1DX was replaced after 4 1/4 years....
The 5D3 was replaced after 4 1/2 years....
The 7D was replaced after 5 years.....
The 6D has been out for 4 years.....

At the moment, the 6D is the oldest camera in the Canon fleet.... although there have been no official announcements or solid rumors about it, the odds that it will be replaced in the next year are very high
 
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#5
I'm in the same boat as you.....

I have the 7D2, it is a fantastic "high pixel density" camera, and am also looking at a FF camera that should be good in low light.... I am hoping that a 6D2 will soon come out and keep the lower pixel count and even better low light ability...
 
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#7
GP.Masserano said:
Unfortunately the 11-24 is out of my budget... :'(

I would like to try the FF but the 6D has been put on the market in 2010 and I do not want to find in my hands a camera "obsolete" !
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Expect a 6D MK II early next year. Six months from now. Also expect the price to rise, probably $2100-$2400 at the start. The 6D has dropped in price over the years from its original $2100 price. If the 6D MK II moves up market a little, the price might go over the original $2100. The Dual Pixel Tech is more expensive, so it will hold the price up.

So, if you can afford a 6D MK II, you can afford the $2500 11-24mm lens by selling your Sigma. The lens will not become obsolete soon :)
 
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#8
I use the 6D in combination with the canon 16-35mm f/4 IS for landscape. The image quality is very good and the combination is light to carry when out in the field. I also use LEE filters with the LEE system 100. The 35mmm FF will give you wide on the 16mm - more than on the crop camera. Yes, the 6D is in the market for some time with expected replacement in 2017. But, that does not make the 6D a bad camera for landscape!
 
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#9
The 6D won't be obsolete it will just be an older generation. it will still take the same quality of pictures the day the 6Dii is released as it does today. The 6Dii is likely to be double the price. Another suggestion for you is the 5D mark 3 which is still a great camera and would have a similar AF system to the one you are used to in the 7Dii, BUT is going for a great deal less than it used to!!
 
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#10
A lot depends on how hyper-critical you are. What is acceptable to me is said by some to be 'night and day' differences with the 7D2 bordering on unusable.

I have had the 7D2 for 18months and recently bought the 6D. There is little difference between them below ISO 1600 so landscapes in decent light you may be disappointed. I bought the 6D for low light work and better shadow recovery so it really depends on what you take pictures of.

As Mt Spokane says, if the 6D2 is viable then the 11-24 certainly is!
 
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#11
As well as a couple of FF bodies, I have a 7D MkII. For most work, it's output is highly competent and more than adequate for most projects. You've got a great camera.

As Mt Spokane suggests, the way forward may be investing in glass. However if you must go FF, there are some good options. The 6D is very likely to be replaced next year, but much more expensive than the very good outgoing 6D. There may even be run-out pricing coming up in a few months.

With the release of the 5D MkIV, there will be good numbers of well cared for 5D Mk III's coming onto the used market. The 5D Mk IV release may also trigger upgraditis from current 6D owners.

-pw
 
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#13
I have a 6D and used to own a 7D2. It used to backup my 5D3, but now my 5D3 backs up my 1Dx2 and I've converted the 6D to infrared.

Yes, this is an old body - but it's still very capable. I wouldn't buy one new. You can find a Canon refurbished one or a used one on LensAuthority for about $1200. You'll see a significant improvement in image quality between the 6D and the 7D2 - roughly two stops. Also, when you sell it you won't take too much of a hit.

I was never really happy with the image quality from the 7D2, but I used it for its reach with wildlife shots. I found that above ISO 800 the noise was too high for professional applications. The 6D, however, can go up to about ISO 3200.

If you're on a budget, I think you'll achieve a lot more flexibility by picking one up. Eventually you'll want to buy a wider angle lens. Note that I don't believe the Sigma 8-16 will work on a FF camera.
 
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GP.Masserano said:
My current equipment: Canon EOS 7DmkII + 8/16 Sigma + 24/70 f4 L + 100 macro f2.8 L + 100/400 L mkII + 24/105 STM for photos of nature and travel.
I would like to broaden the kit for the landscape with Canon EOS 6D (for use in particular with 24/70 or 24/105 STM) and 70/300 USM IS L (that i prefer to 70/200 F4 L is)
Questions for super-experts : it is a good choice?
Canon has intention to leave in the near future a MK2 version of 6D ?
(I would NOT buy a camera FF to 1300euros and then discover that is going to be a version MK2... :(

Thanks for your answers!
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My answer as super-expert is to stop using slash on the lens names and use dash like it's supposed.

As for camera, I wouldn't get 6D at this point, since 6D2 is soon coming out. Other options are 5D4, or if you want to save some money get good deals on 5D3.
 
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#16
chauncey said:
You do not need a new camera...start buying prime canon lenses and learn how to take pictures in manual mode.
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I think NOBODY has really need a new camera...and is not the doctor that he has commanded us to buy it! ;)
But, this is a hobby and as such are sometimes your cravings to satisfy, don't you think ?

...and then I do not think that in manual mode the pictures are better than in AV at f 8!
I think instead that the sensor FF is more suitable to the landscapes because more flexible as dynamic range for all the shades of color.
 
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#17
If you want a new FF camera now, I would get the 6D now. If you can wait a year, then you can compare the incrementally improved cameras then. Unlikely to be vast improvements in image quality, but features like AF will improve on some models (like the 6Dii).
 
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#19
photojoern.de said:
6D is a great buy for landscape full format. See if you can have a good deal. The updates for the 6DII will be visible - but are they worth 1000 USD? 6D plus 24-70 L 2.8 is an awesome combination. Add the 16-35 L f4 IS and you have a wonderful landscape FF kit.
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I'm surprised you know the price of a camera that has not even been announced!

Ina body it is the sensor that defines quality and if you look at the BH photo video about the 5DmkIV, they say the improvements are small but noticeable. I anticipate the changes to the 6D to be in the same vein. But given that the date of the 6DII is not yet known then how long do you want to wait? A year? 2 years? And in the meantime you are taking photos with a camera you seem to be convinced is not up to the job for landscapes.

And while people are talking about a 6Dii there is also talk of a 'brand new' DSLR as well. So will you prefer the 6D2 or the 'brand new' one?

So I say buy the 6D now and enjoy taking photos and see what comes along. If the 6D proves to be the improvement you want then you have been using it. if the 6D is not the improvement you hoped for you have had a shot of realism for when they next cycle of bodies is released.
 
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#20
Thanks for the information.
I read on some forums that the 6D would have some problem in autofocus (especially for me accustomed to the extreme speed of the EOS 7DII), but I do not believe that this is relevant for the landscape, macro, portrait or photo in studio.
As stated previously, I believe instead that the accuracy of detail and the dynamic range of the FF of 6D are excellent, in some cases even higher than those of the 5DIII and certainly better than the 7DII.
Also I am not interested in running below to latest innovations in the market: a long time ago I bought a EOS1 and a EOS3 (rollfilm) and i used them for about 20 years...
I am convinced that the technical characteristics of the 6DII will be slightly higher than the 6D, but the price will certainly be much higher... >:(

PS: sorry if I write this'now but in Italy are the 19:46 And I am going to go to dinner... ;)
 
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