Review - Do You Need or Want 50mp? Canon EOS 5DS R

[Maiaibing]

I guess it'll take another 1-2 years for Canon to release it.

Given Canon previous record I'd say at least 4 years. Any new tech will sit with the 5DIV for another 4-5 years from now. There'll be no presure to update the 5DS/R.

BTW why was the review of a camera posted under "lenses"?

 

[StudentOfLight]

I agree with these comments. I owned a 5D3 and 6D last fall when I purchased a 5DsR. I did lots of side-by-side shooting with all three cameras and decided to sell the 5D3 and keep the 6D as a back-up/2nd body since I felt it was a better compliment to the 5DsR.

Indeed, exactly my own situation.

I sold my 5D-III in June and kept my 6D. Waiting to see what 5D-IV brings to the table before pulling the trigger on a 5D-IV or 5Ds.

 

[Maiaibing]

If you don't like dxo, go to Bill Claff who shows the 5DS R has better dynamic range than the 5DIII etc
http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

Wow - I'm not into DR myself (of course always nice to have more - doing well with my style of shooting already) but I'm impressed how good the 5DS/R looks compared to other Canon cameras.

 

[Hector1970]

My own experience with a 5DSR and a 5DIII is that the ISO performance of the 5D III is better.
The noise in the 5DIII is easier to clean up.
I don't like the noise in my 5DSR at all. It's similar to the noise in the 7DII.
It seems to me to be more blotchy.
Canon themselves by default restrict the ISO on the 5DSR as they must think beyond the default point the noise is not something they want to show off.

I've grown to like the 5DSR but its best under ideal conditions.
Low ISO and on a stable platform is where it works best.
It has great image detail under those conditions
I find the 5D III more flexible, more of an all rounder.
I'll be interested in the reviews of the 5D IV.
The upgrades are incremental and not exciting on paper.
It will be a better camera than the 5D III and I'll be interested in reading in what way.

 

[Eldar]

My own experience with a 5DSR and a 5DIII is that the ISO performance of the 5D III is better.
The noise in the 5DIII is easier to clean up.
I don't like the noise in my 5DSR at all. It's similar to the noise in the 7DII.
It seems to me to be more blotchy.
Canon themselves by default restrict the ISO on the 5DSR as they must think beyond the default point the noise is not something they want to show off.

I disagree. I find the noise of the 5DSR a lot easier to work with and I am still surprised Canon limited the ISO range to 12800 (extended).
This is an ISO6400 shot from the 5DSR, with a 30 second automatic HQ(Fast) noise reduction in DxO OpticsPro 11, no manual extras.

Besides being a beautiful dry-fly caught Icelandic trout, I´d be interested in hearing how a 5DIII image would look better or in what sense noise would be easier to work with.

PS! I have just cropped it to 1:1 and done nothing to light, colour, contrast or anything else.

 

[Maiaibing]

My own experience with a 5DSR and a 5DIII is that the ISO performance of the 5D III is better.
The noise in the 5DIII is easier to clean up.
I don't like the noise in my 5DSR at all. It's similar to the noise in the 7DII.
It seems to me to be more blotchy.
Canon themselves by default restrict the ISO on the 5DSR as they must think beyond the default point the noise is not something they want to show off.

If you are shooting RAW there's a solution to your challenges so you can get more out of your 5DS/R pictures.

What program are you using and how do you deal with noise? And if you use LightRoom are you using Adobe's standard color profile?

 

[Hector1970]

My own experience with a 5DSR and a 5DIII is that the ISO performance of the 5D III is better.
The noise in the 5DIII is easier to clean up.
I don't like the noise in my 5DSR at all. It's similar to the noise in the 7DII.
It seems to me to be more blotchy.
Canon themselves by default restrict the ISO on the 5DSR as they must think beyond the default point the noise is not something they want to show off.

If you are shooting RAW there's a solution to your challenges so you can get more out of your 5DS/R pictures.

What program are you using and how do you deal with noise? And if you use LightRoom are you using Adobe's standard color profile?

I can never remember what color space I'm using but I'd assume it is Adobe's Standard Color profile. Yes I'd be interested in any tips.

 

[Maiaibing]

My own experience with a 5DSR and a 5DIII is that the ISO performance of the 5D III is better.
The noise in the 5DIII is easier to clean up.
I don't like the noise in my 5DSR at all. It's similar to the noise in the 7DII.
It seems to me to be more blotchy.
Canon themselves by default restrict the ISO on the 5DSR as they must think beyond the default point the noise is not something they want to show off.

If you are shooting RAW there's a solution to your challenges so you can get more out of your 5DS/R pictures.

What program are you using and how do you deal with noise? And if you use LightRoom are you using Adobe's standard color profile?

I can never remember what color space I'm using but I'd assume it is Adobe's Standard Color profile. Yes I'd be interested in any tips.

OK. This is likely your problem. And its easily fixed.

Sadly, Adobe default color space for the 5DS/R is broken. It will crunch your blacks and overblow your whites. I promise you that just changing this in LR will improve your pictures a lot.

I have posted some samples here that show how big a difference changing the color profile makes: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/57099728

I'm not quite sure why Adobe did not change it altogether. They did make a fix however. I have my own color profile and you can find several out there for free if you google them.

But to keep things easy I suggest you either use Adobe's own "Neutral" color profile (free download) or check out Horshack's customs profile's (freebee also) which many consider better because Adobe's are slightly flat in the colors - and I agree with this. There's also Huelight's profiles (15$) taking a small fee for a vast improvement:

Horshack: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56156685

Huelight: http://www.colorfidelity.com/canon.htm

Adobe's atempt is here with steps for installation (beware there is a difference between profiles for the 5DS and 5DS/R): https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1872272

Try it out with a few of your pictures at first - it should at least take away the "blotchiness" - and do come back here if noise is still not as good as you would like it to be.