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AFAIK size is about the only noticeable difference. This guy was almost for sure a sharp shinned hawk and very small as you can see from the backdrop (the block is 8 in high). The Coopers hawks around here are much larger, but I suspect a small individual would be hard to distinguish from a large sharp shinned.

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Thanks for the reference. That does seem smaller than what I saw. A picture on Cornell labs website of a Cooper hawk looks exactly like my bird. I had been put off by a comparison of a Cooper hawks size to a crow. But looking at Cornell Labs, I am seeing males can be ~14" and that is getting close to what I saw.
 
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I glanced at my backyard feeder and there was not any activity. I noticed something in one of the trees to the side....

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Due to its size, I am thinking this is a Sharp-Shinned Hawk and not a Cooper's hawk. But, if someone wants to correct me, that is fine.

Either way...total buzz kill. Not a bird at my feeder until after it flew off.

R1 EF 500 f/4 II
Square tail is good clue for Sharpie
 
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I glanced at my backyard feeder and there was not any activity. I noticed something in one of the trees to the side....


Due to its size, I am thinking this is a Sharp-Shinned Hawk and not a Cooper's hawk. But, if someone wants to correct me, that is fine.

Either way...total buzz kill. Not a bird at my feeder until after it flew off.

R1 EF 500 f/4 II


Beautiful series, docsmith.
 
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Thanks for the reference. That does seem smaller than what I saw. A picture on Cornell labs website of a Cooper hawk looks exactly like my bird. I had been put off by a comparison of a Cooper hawks size to a crow. But looking at Cornell Labs, I am seeing males can be ~14" and that is getting close to what I saw.
This reference https://www.birdadvisors.com/hawks-oregon/ says female Cooper's hawks can be up to almost 18 in. I have both Coopers hawks and Ravens and they are pretty close to the same size, so the reference to a crow would seem to be a smallish individual.
 
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Square tail is good clue for Sharpie
First: I'm not familiar of both species - I haven't seen them in my life...
Hesitated to post my opinion by that reason but what I see in the Docsmith's photos and my short research on the Internet makes me believe it's a Cooper's Hawk:
1. I see somewhat paler back of the neck in photos 1,3,6
2. Dome shaped head (front view!) - 2,4 and even 5
3. What rounded tail means? It means the central (2-4?) tail feathers are LONGER than the rest! Photos 1,3,4,5,6 as well as the BIF. Compare with the photo posted by Raptors - real Sharpie: the tail feathers look like "cut" to be even length!
4. The white spot at the tip of the tail feathers is arguably broader then it should be in the Sharpie.

And from what I can see on the Internet photos it looks like the eyes of the Cooper's hawk are situated deeper below the "brow" giving it more "hawkish" expression of the face. The Sharpie looks more "Kestrel-ish" (cute-ish):unsure::unsure:.

Anyway it's just my opinion.
And anyway these are great photos! I'm especially impressed how the AF tracking got the bird when it was taking off!!!
 
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You are all great.

Ok...I am changing my thought to Cooper's Hawk.

As I was photographing the bird, I was even thinking it was small. My guess would have been 12-14". Doing a few calculations based on image height in the uncropped frame where it is upright (similar to pics 3-5) and the R1's reported distance (14.2 m) and I am getting ~15 inches in height. Cornell Labs has the Cooper's Hawk male as 14.6 to 15.3 in height and 24.4 to 35.4 inches wingspan. Wingspan is more difficult to estimate considering I do not have a straight on image. But doing similar estimates based on the final image, I am thinking it was 24-28 inches. This is part of what threw me off Cooper's before, as I did not see a 3 ft wingspan but ~2ft is about right. The Sharp Shinned Hawk is 9.4 to 13.4 inches in height with a wingspan of 16.9 to 22.1 inches, it fit better with my perceived height and wingspan.

Combine that the calculations have the hawk at 15" in height, I agree with all the points ISv made, plus, this side by side comparison I watched this morning. I am pretty certain I had a smallish Cooper's hawk, likely a male as females are a bit larger. While none of those trying to differentiate between the two point this out, pictures of Sharp Shinned hawks with similar plumage as what I saw all seem to have a distinctive eye-ring which is lacking in Cooper's hawks and the hawk I saw.
 
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You are all great.

Ok...I am changing my thought to Cooper's Hawk.

As I was photographing the bird, I was even thinking it was small. My guess would have been 12-14". Doing a few calculations based on image height in the uncropped frame where it is upright (similar to pics 3-5) and the R1's reported distance (14.2 m) and I am getting ~15 inches in height. Then, for the wingspan of the last image (uncropped) I am getting ~24 inches. Cornell Labs has the Cooper's Hawk male as 14.6 to 15.3 in height and 24.4 to 35.4 inches wingspan. This is part of what threw me off Cooper's before, as there was no way that was a 3 ft wingspan but 24" is about right. The Sharp Shinned Hawk is 9.4 to 13.4 inches in height with a wingspan of 16.9 to 22.1 inches, it fit better with my perceived height and wingspan.

Combine that the calculations have the hawk at 15" in height, I agree with all the points ISv made, plus, this side by side comparison I watched this morning. I am pretty certain I had a smallish Cooper's hawk, likely a male as females are a bit larger. While none of those trying to differentiate between the two point this out, Sharp Shinned hawks with similar plumage as what I saw all seem to have a distinctive eye-ring which is lacking in Cooper's hawks and the hawk I saw.
Lots of good stuff here. However, size is the worst field criteria, especially with birds of prey. Both Coopers and Sharpies have sexual dimorphism. The females are larger than the males. So, a male Coopers and a female Sharpie will be close to the same size. For me it is a Coopers and primary reason flat top head and the color on the nape is lighter which makes Coppers look like they are a capped. Sharpies head is smaller and color conitunes more so it looks like one piece. If that makes sense.
 
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Lots of good stuff here. However, size is the worst field criteria, especially with birds of prey. Both Coopers and Sharpies have sexual dimorphism. The females are larger than the males. So, a male Coopers and a female Sharpie will be close to the same size. For me it is a Coopers and primary reason flat top head and the color on the nape is lighter which makes Coppers look like they are a capped. Sharpies head is smaller and color conitunes more so it looks like one piece. If that makes sense.
Fair enough. I have been part of another debate between Sharp Shinned hawk and Cooper's hawk. This one I am feeling pretty good about. That other one was a juvenile and I just took a few steps back as a few people went back and forth. Usually, bird ID is a bit more straight forward, especially with the Merlin App. Here, I think ISv did a good summary, this one looks like a Cooper's hawk...just smaller. But, as you say, size may not be the best differentiator.
 
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(Unfortunate) News...

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Tentative Good News: An Update


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For more than 40 years, migrating birds have been crashing into McCormick Place Lakeside Center.

The glassy, low-lying convention building on the shores of Lake Michigan has been the scene of about 1,000 deadly collisions per year, according to Dave Willard, retired Field Museum bird division collections manager.

In 2023, the death toll for a single day was so high — at least 960 birds — that the carnage became national news.

But this fall, when bird collision monitors performed their usual daily searches of the building’s grounds, they found something remarkable: just 18 dead birds.

“To me, it was almost miraculous,” said Willard.

The initial results are in at Lakeside Center, following the application of bird-safe film to the building’s windows: Crash fatalities were down more than 90% this fall, according to Willard, who has been monitoring the site regularly since 1982.

“This is monumental,” said U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director Martha Williams, who toured the project Wednesday.

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The 18 deaths at Lakeside Center this fall compare with 1,280 deaths in fall 2023 and 771 in fall 2022, Willard said.

In other recent years, the fall death count at the building has ranged from about 350 to 600.

Initially, Willard thought one possible explanation for the low number of deaths this fall was that birds simply weren’t migrating through the region at their usual rate.

But as the season went on, bird collision monitors in the downtown areas reported finding as many as 100 or 150 crash victims in a single day, while the good news at Lakeside Center just kept coming.

“I turned into a believer” in bird-safe film, Willard said. “And (I) started thinking about how maybe it can be pushed to some of the other buildings around town as well.”

Willard did add a caveat: He’d still like to see how the bird-safe film performs in the spring.

“I have no reason to think that it won’t be as effective for spring migration, but birds are coming (from) a different direction, so we want to document whether it is or isn’t working,” he said.
 
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Some small passerines caught out walking on a sunny day at freezing point with the RF 200-800mm on R5ii. A European Robin fluffed up to keep out the cold, a European Goldfinch, Greenfinch and Dunnock.

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Docsmith, shire guy and Alan,

Beautiful pictures, guys.
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Some small passerines caught out walking on a sunny day at freezing point with the RF 200-800mm on R5ii. A European Robin fluffed up to keep out the cold, a European Goldfinch, Greenfinch and Dunnock.

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Great shots Alan (especially in this series)! It's nice to see you are recovering well - just don't over-abuse your knee (I'm sure doctors already told you this)!
 
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My bird from today: recently I'm frequent visitor to a botanical garden next to downtown Honolulu, no interesting birds but a lot of Monarch butterflies. And I'm looking for the White morph! In older literature you may find that 10% of the Monarchs in Hawaii are that morph, not true at least the 22 years I'm here. The last time I did see a form of the White morph (it's represent by few different forms!) was maybe ~13-15 years ago. Still looking :cry:!
All photos that I'm posting today are from that place.

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