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Tron, the 1D4 is a great camera if you can get it for less than a 7DII. There is nothing wrong with the AF and there are options you don't get with lower cameras. One I loved was having the active AF point lit up constantly. You can link spot exposure to any active AF point too. If you don't have to crop much, the consensus seems to be it exceeds the 7DII in IQ but it only has 16 MP so it couldn't stand up against the 6D when cropping small birds. I was really torn about selling it but since for stationary shots it couldn't compete with the 6D I was always debating which camera to have ready. The 1.3 factor was nice for getting more accuracy when placing the AF point on the eye. When cropping I didn't like to go above ISO 640 (clearly ISO 800 couldn't compete with ISO 1250 on the 6D, which is the highest I prefer to go with it)

I bought and sold at the same price so it was like a loaner that served me for my eagle shots in Haida Gwaii and convinced me I love the feel (not weight) of a 1 series camera. Thus the money goes towards a 1DX II since my friend had bought the 1DX and I had hedged thinking why not get in on the next (and hopefully significantly improved) cycle after learning the basics with the 6D. I never cursed the 6D in spite of its AF - great (little) camera for the price. I still need to learn an awful lot more but why not with a 1DX II! ;)

Jack
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Tron, the 1D4 is a great camera if you can get it for less than a 7DII. There is nothing wrong with the AF and there are options you don't get with lower cameras. One I loved was having the active AF point lit up constantly. You can link spot exposure to any active AF point too. If you don't have to crop much, the consensus seems to be it exceeds the 7DII in IQ but it only has 16 MP so it couldn't stand up against the 6D when cropping small birds. I was really torn about selling it but since for stationary shots it couldn't compete with the 6D I was always debating which camera to have ready. The 1.3 factor was nice for getting more accuracy when placing the AF point on the eye. When cropping I didn't like to go above ISO 640 (clearly ISO 800 couldn't compete with ISO 1250 on the 6D, which is the highest I prefer to go with it)

I bought and sold at the same price so it was like a loaner that served me for my eagle shots in Haida Gwaii and convinced me I love the feel (not weight) of a 1 series camera. Thus the money goes towards a 1DX II since my friend had bought the 1DX and I had hedged thinking why not get in on the next (and hopefully significantly improved) cycle after learning the basics with the 6D. I never cursed the 6D in spite of its AF - great (little) camera for the price. I still need to learn an awful lot more but why not with a 1DX II! ;)

Jack
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Thanks for the info. I was wondering if you had parameterized some AF settings
like: AI Servo tracking sensitivity, AIServo 1st/2nd image priority, AI Servo AF tracking method, AF expansion, etc. I am referring to BIF photos.

Also is 6D that better even if it has smaller pixel density????
In that case I guess you will gain much with 1DxII even with only 22Mpixels.
 
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tron said:
Jack Douglas said:
Tron, the 1D4 is a great camera if you can get it for less than a 7DII. There is nothing wrong with the AF and there are options you don't get with lower cameras. One I loved was having the active AF point lit up constantly. You can link spot exposure to any active AF point too. If you don't have to crop much, the consensus seems to be it exceeds the 7DII in IQ but it only has 16 MP so it couldn't stand up against the 6D when cropping small birds. I was really torn about selling it but since for stationary shots it couldn't compete with the 6D I was always debating which camera to have ready. The 1.3 factor was nice for getting more accuracy when placing the AF point on the eye. When cropping I didn't like to go above ISO 640 (clearly ISO 800 couldn't compete with ISO 1250 on the 6D, which is the highest I prefer to go with it)

I bought and sold at the same price so it was like a loaner that served me for my eagle shots in Haida Gwaii and convinced me I love the feel (not weight) of a 1 series camera. Thus the money goes towards a 1DX II since my friend had bought the 1DX and I had hedged thinking why not get in on the next (and hopefully significantly improved) cycle after learning the basics with the 6D. I never cursed the 6D in spite of its AF - great (little) camera for the price. I still need to learn an awful lot more but why not with a 1DX II! ;)

Jack
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Thanks for the info. I was wondering if you had parameterized some AF settings
like: AI Servo tracking sensitivity, AIServo 1st/2nd image priority, AI Servo AF tracking method, AF expansion, etc. I am referring to BIF photos.

Also is 6D that better even if it has smaller pixel density????
In that case I guess you will gain much with 1DxII even with only 22Mpixels.
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I'm afraid that 20mp vs 22mp is not that much of a difference. I believe 6D is lacking some AA "butter", which makes it a very "crop capable" camera. My last picture here is 3.4mp crop from 6D shot through a dirty window and brown plastic blinds. Still looks better than a P&S cam or the 7D I used to have :). The bokeh suffered a lot though.
 
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#9,545
Tron, I'm not in the league of the pros that frequent CR in offering my opinion. However, I am a particularly fussy individual when it comes to perceiving that what I'm getting isn't what it should be. I never learned the 1D4 like I should have because time was short. I changed quite a few AF settings but not the ones you're referring to. AF was great but I only had the 6D for reference.

Higher ISOs was not a strength of the 1D4 and I often needed ISI 800 knowing that the cropped IQ that gave me would not match the 6D. Not saying it was bad. As stated, if the subject was stationary and far enough away that I'd have to crop more than 50%, I'd opt for the 6D. Even considering AF I have not regretted buying the 6D for a moment. After shooting almost all 1D4, handling the 6D was not a great thrill. I now understand why folk would say it's too small although it really isn't that bad. If cash was really tight I'd be wondering about a 6D II but 4 1/2 FPS was disappointing and even 6 would not be satisfactory for me. I'm not interested in the 7D II, in particular relative to using the 11-24 so I now need (ha ha) a 1DX II.

2/20 is 1/10 and I guess we call that 10%. Comparing to 18 MP it's closer to 20% and that is worthy in my eyes. My friend and I compared our 6D - 1DX shots and my 6D wasn't far behind, often equal. So for 1D to go from 18 to 22, to me that's pretty worthwhile, especially when you're on the edge of good/great.

Putting ego aside I feel that most of my shots are good but I'm of the opinion that slightly more MPs will make a bigger difference than the numbers themselves suggest.

Jack
 
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20150621-sni-2829-jpg-by-stein-nilsen

Spotted redhank, Northern Norway
5DIII 300/2,8L IS 420mm
https://500px.com/photo/132925775/20150621-sni-2829-jpg-by-stein-nilsen?ctx_page=3&from=user&user_id=14924757
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Tron, I'm not in the league of the pros that frequent CR in offering my opinion. However, I am a particularly fussy individual when it comes to perceiving that what I'm getting isn't what it should be. I never learned the 1D4 like I should have because time was short. I changed quite a few AF settings but not the ones you're referring to. AF was great but I only had the 6D for reference.

Higher ISOs was not a strength of the 1D4 and I often needed ISI 800 knowing that the cropped IQ that gave me would not match the 6D. Not saying it was bad. As stated, if the subject was stationary and far enough away that I'd have to crop more than 50%, I'd opt for the 6D. Even considering AF I have not regretted buying the 6D for a moment. After shooting almost all 1D4, handling the 6D was not a great thrill. I now understand why folk would say it's too small although it really isn't that bad. If cash was really tight I'd be wondering about a 6D II but 4 1/2 FPS was disappointing and even 6 would not be satisfactory for me. I'm not interested in the 7D II, in particular relative to using the 11-24 so I now need (ha ha) a 1DX II.

2/20 is 1/10 and I guess we call that 10%. Comparing to 18 MP it's closer to 20% and that is worthy in my eyes. My friend and I compared our 6D - 1DX shots and my 6D wasn't far behind, often equal. So for 1D to go from 18 to 22, to me that's pretty worthwhile, especially when you're on the edge of good/great.

Putting ego aside I feel that most of my shots are good but I'm of the opinion that slightly more MPs will make a bigger difference than the numbers themselves suggest.

Jack
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Thanks for your insight. I too wait for 1DxII since it seems a super upgrade for my 5D3 (Same number of Mpixels, better everything else?)
 
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Tron, there is no doubt it would be a little harder for me to go 1DX II if I had sprung for the 5D3 initially. I was so ignorant of so much about DSLRs at that time, so my lower cost 6D choice was a wise one in my case since I suspected I'd eventually want to step up. Often stated on CR, it's what works for you that counts.

It's contributing/sharing that gives purpose to life, so I try to do my part. :)

Jack
 
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This little lady showed up on my bird bath last weekend when I was shooting by our feeder. I really liked how the background and her body were similar in color. Shot with 60D + 100-400 Mk II.
 

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Jack Douglas said:
Tron, there is no doubt it would be a little harder for me to go 1DX II if I had sprung for the 5D3 initially. I was so ignorant of so much about DSLRs at that time, so my lower cost 6D choice was a wise one in my case since I suspected I'd eventually want to step up. Often stated on CR, it's what works for you that counts.

It's contributing/sharing that gives purpose to life, so I try to do my part. :)

Jack
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I understand your choice of 6D. It is a great value for money. I had a 5D3 and I was torn between a 6D and a second 5D3. I knew that for landscape astrophotography 6D was a tad better but since I liked other type of photos too and I was tired of constant lens change I got a similar (5D3) camera. That way Murphy's Law was restricted. There was never a need to swap bodies when I needed to focus using off center points when the 5D3 had the 'wrong' lens. ;D

Of course there there were minor implications of Murphy's Law when I was carrying a 3rd lens with me but a lens change was easier to handle than a camera/lens swap ;D
 
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