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In case anyone wonders that black grommet allows a pellet pistol to be aimed at magpies. 
Perhaps I'll get in trouble for this admission but ..... you know!
Jack
Perhaps I'll get in trouble for this admission but ..... you know!Jack
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Jack Douglas said:
Well the 2xIII does affect image quality - it's a little softer, so I stop down from f/8 to f/10, which seems to improve things a touch. But once the 5D3 got autofocus at f/8 I started using the 500+2x almost exclusively, and I found the results easily good enough under most circumstances, and slightly better than using the 1.4x and cropping to the same size (but overall the 1.4x combination is much cleaner and faster). AF is slower and restricted to the centre point on the 5D3 or original 1Dx, so it's not good for birds in flight, but it's still reliable enough for perched birds. Here's a set of images taken with it, judge for yourself: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjWv9M6b
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Astonishing as your previous grebes photos.Eldar said:
Eldar an opinion (slightly off topic):
I saw that you have both 1DxII and 5DsR. I know I am comparing apples to oranges somehow and maybe there is no absolutely correct answer but which would you grab first for bird photography?
The closest to these cameras that I have are 5D3 and 7D2. All of the times I am FL limited so I prefer my 7D2 to 5D3 but I have to be ... lucky/careful and take photos of birds lit well.
I would think for perfect lighting APS-C (or 5DsR) is the best solution but for all cases I am not sure ...
P.S Of course everyone else is also more than welcome to comment on this...
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Thanks Tron,tron said:
This is in my view a good question. Most would by reflex grab the 1DX-II. And in difficult light and/or when things are moving fast, it is my clear choice. Super fast and accurate AF, unrivalled AF at f/8.0, 14fps, good high ISO performance etc. makes it a great choice. And no matter what happens, you are prepared.
However, at acceptable ISO-settings (<3200) and with limited action, the 5DSR is a fantastic option. Often I find myself in reach limited situations, where I have to crop. With the 5DSR you have Lots of resolution for cropping. Good DR, great colours and very good AF makes it a more versatile camera than some give it credit for. It is more sensitive to shake though. Some makes file size an issue, but it is no problem for me.
I am sure others will have a different preference, but in my world, the 1DX-II/5DSR combo is the best one available.
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I own a 5DS-R and find it to be an unparalleled camera for closeup photography of small animals and insects. The huge files enable me to crop my images ruthlessly and still get a tremendous amount of detail. It's subjective, I know, but I also think that the camera produces colors that are richer and deeper than anything that I can get with my other go-to camera, my 5Diii. I do think that stabilization is a must, however, when shooting out in the field with this camera. I take the overwhelming majority of my pictures using a monopod.
I don't use the 5DS-R for bird photography. It only shoots at 5 fps in burst mode and that's really pretty slow. I shoot a lot of images of birds from my car window, without stabilization, and although I can get away with that with the 5Diii, I doubt whether I'd get equivalent results with an unstabilized 5DS-R. Also, the gigantic files that the camera produces can be a headache when doing post-processing. It takes a lot more time for my computer to upload and for Photoshop to handle one of those 50mp files than it does with the smaller files produced by the 5Diii.
So, if it's birds, I'm shooting with the 5Diii. Closeups, the 5DS-R.
I don't use the 5DS-R for bird photography. It only shoots at 5 fps in burst mode and that's really pretty slow. I shoot a lot of images of birds from my car window, without stabilization, and although I can get away with that with the 5Diii, I doubt whether I'd get equivalent results with an unstabilized 5DS-R. Also, the gigantic files that the camera produces can be a headache when doing post-processing. It takes a lot more time for my computer to upload and for Photoshop to handle one of those 50mp files than it does with the smaller files produced by the 5Diii.
So, if it's birds, I'm shooting with the 5Diii. Closeups, the 5DS-R.
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Thanks for answering Eldar and Steve.
I have the 7D2 which must be a little worse than 5DsR (pixel wise) but it is similar in pixel density.
(CR member AlanF has provided us info on that as well as on many camera/telephoto lenses combinations)
Also, I guess someone can use 5Ds(R) in crop mode for still birds to get smaller files.
I also used 7D2 (with 500 II) alot from the inside of my car. I didn't have sharpness issues but maybe I could lower Shutter Speed down a notch (at least for still birds) to lower the ISO. It seems that with proper exposure and lighting the best results (for heavy cropping) are up to ISO 640 and decent results up to about 1250.
I believe a 5DsR could replace both 5D3 and 7D2 (since it is FF as 5D3 and has high pixel density as 7D2) but I really like my 5D3 and I do not want to part with it ... yet
I have the 7D2 which must be a little worse than 5DsR (pixel wise) but it is similar in pixel density.
(CR member AlanF has provided us info on that as well as on many camera/telephoto lenses combinations)
Also, I guess someone can use 5Ds(R) in crop mode for still birds to get smaller files.
I also used 7D2 (with 500 II) alot from the inside of my car. I didn't have sharpness issues but maybe I could lower Shutter Speed down a notch (at least for still birds) to lower the ISO. It seems that with proper exposure and lighting the best results (for heavy cropping) are up to ISO 640 and decent results up to about 1250.
I believe a 5DsR could replace both 5D3 and 7D2 (since it is FF as 5D3 and has high pixel density as 7D2) but I really like my 5D3 and I do not want to part with it ... yet
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Sometimes, its the just the gear you have with you.
Overnight trip to island in the middle of Wellington Harbour with the team from work. I take my 6D plus 24-105/4 plus 200/2.8 and leave the 400/5.6 at home. I go for a last walk around the island before the boat comes pick us up, just taking the 6D and 24-105. There is a flock of kakariki's (red-fronted parakeets) feeding on some flax seeds. Too far away. Drat, should have taken the 200mm, would have been perfect. I wait and wait. The birds get closer. The boat departure time gets closer. I sit silent and then one flies down about 2m away from me. I take three photos and then it flies away. I then sprint for the boat and make it!
Overnight trip to island in the middle of Wellington Harbour with the team from work. I take my 6D plus 24-105/4 plus 200/2.8 and leave the 400/5.6 at home. I go for a last walk around the island before the boat comes pick us up, just taking the 6D and 24-105. There is a flock of kakariki's (red-fronted parakeets) feeding on some flax seeds. Too far away. Drat, should have taken the 200mm, would have been perfect. I wait and wait. The birds get closer. The boat departure time gets closer. I sit silent and then one flies down about 2m away from me. I take three photos and then it flies away. I then sprint for the boat and make it!
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