Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked

Viggo said:
ahsanford said:
Viggo said:
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price). I just don't know how many are out there.

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A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload :D

I realize there are a lot of 50L lovers on this very forum, and that the 50L is more for the draw, bokeh, color, etc. than pure corner to corner sharpness.

But there are a boatload of people who want sharp 50mm performance at something wider than F/4. So, in fairness, I baited that response. I know you folks are out there. ;D

- A
 
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ahsanford said:
Viggo said:
ahsanford said:
Viggo said:
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price). I just don't know how many are out there.

- A

A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload :D

I realize there are a lot of 50L lovers on this very forum, and that the 50L is more for the draw, bokeh, color, etc. than pure corner to corner sharpness.

But there are a boatload of people who want sharp 50mm performance at something wider than F/4. So, in fairness, I baited that response. I know you folks are out there. ;D

- A
I want a 50 mm that is sharp in studio light and outdoor light for portraits, I find the 50L to be inconsistent. It always renders a nice colour and has nice bokeh but that isn't enough. I'm finding my sigma 35 to wow me to the point I hate my 50L in terms of sharpness across the board. It gives me a way better punch to my photos. So if this 50 coming out has that same punch and focuses better then the 50L then sign me up. I'm starting to really like the colours my sigma 35 produces it gives it a vintage glow, maybe doesn't have the same bokeh as the 50L but bokeh is overrated.
 
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giltaminphotography said:
ahsanford said:
I realize there are a lot of 50L lovers on this very forum, and that the 50L is more for the draw, bokeh, color, etc. than pure corner to corner sharpness.

But there are a boatload of people who want sharp 50mm performance at something wider than F/4. So, in fairness, I baited that response. I know you folks are out there. ;D

- A
I want a 50 mm that is sharp in studio light and outdoor light for portraits, I find the 50L to be inconsistent. It always renders a nice colour and has nice bokeh but that isn't enough. I'm finding my sigma 35 to wow me to the point I hate my 50L in terms of sharpness across the board. It gives me a way better punch to my photos. So if this 50 coming out has that same punch and focuses better then the 50L then sign me up. I'm starting to really like the colours my sigma 35 produces it gives it a vintage glow, maybe doesn't have the same bokeh as the 50L but bokeh is overrated.
And bokeh is pretty damn subjective.

In a voter-blinded 'study', the Sigma 35 F/1.4 beat the Canon and Nikon 35 F/1.4 lenses for best bokeh here:
http://www.digitalrev.com/article/battle-of-the-bokeh-canon/NzI2ODkwODA_A

Granted, Kai is many things -- but not a scientist. The poll itself is nutty, but it's a data point nonetheless.

But I'm getting OT. I just wonder if the new Sigma 50 will perform like that 35...

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ecka said:
Relax :). It may cost even less than 35Art, like $799.
35Art MSRP:$1,400.00 - Price:$899.00
50Art MSRP:$1,300.00 - Price:$799.00
...makes sense?
That makes sense, I hope you're right. :) If it's anything like the 35 art (perhaps my favorite lens) I'm sure I'll run to the store to buy it for $800 or whatever it will cost at the local store. Though I probably shouldn't.
 
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Hopefully Sigma is trying to catch Otus, but lack of AF is really downside for most of the pro's.
I'm still thinking the prize will be 800 - 900 US.

And once again there will be always folks like my self who think that price is not really meter, for me Image Quality and AF speed it's a much more important factors.
Time will tell.
 
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When they started comparing it to a 4000 lens in regards to performance... my presumed price point went from 900 to 1200. 1300 isn't that far off and I would still wait a little bit to save 20%... but I hope it does blow away Canon's offerings.
 
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Viggo said:
ahsanford said:
Viggo said:
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price). I just don't know how many are out there.

- A

A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload :D

Here's my thought process... I have the cash to buy the lens and if the lens is 90 % of the otus, but 125% of the 50L.

Sign me up. Auto focus is a bonus... I even if it is as slow as the 85L mkii...if the af is fast and quality control good... I might even pay full retail price.
 
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Even if they launch at $1300 I think I'll get one. At this point I don't doubt that the quality will be there (or at least the differential compared to equivalent Canon lenses), and right now my only fast prime is a samyang 85mm (great lens, but using it really emphasizes how nice AF is).
 
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ahsanford said:
Viggo said:
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one :D

I'm just wondering how many pros (CHECK) who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime (CHECK) are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (CHECK) (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with (CHECK).

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (Oh No I Won't)(if that is the price). I just don't know how many are out there.

- A

I am not cheap, I am no Canon whore either, and I like the 50mm focal length, but no way on earth am I paying Sigma anything like $1,300 for anything.

I would pay Canon $700-800 for a really nice 50 f1.4 with IS and real USM, but I have gone this long without it I probably won't care, and the truth is neither do the clients. You guys worry so much about IQ, people who pay for images (the ones that allow me to buy stuff) care about content.
 
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dadgummit said:
$1300 for a 50mm f1.4?!?!?!? Maybe if it had Canon AF but that is waaaay too steep considering you have to play the sigma lottery. I was going to pre-order this lens if it was in the $800 range but for $1300 i'm out.....

You do realize that both Canon and Nikon's top pro 50mm lenses run $1700 right? This lens blows these competitors out of the water in every conceivable dimension and costs less. It is such an improvement over the top alternatives that is the single greatest generational improvement in image quality in the history of pro Canon or Nikon autofocus lenses. That's not an exaggeration. We are literally talking around double the performance of the nearest competitor, which again run $1700 if you forgot.

Read this part of this thread if you want to know what makes this lens so special:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16643037&postcount=377

You are getting performance that compares to a $4,000 Zeiss lens for 3/4 the the price of the nearest competitor.

I welcome the $1300 price tag, this lens deserves it.
 
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Radiating said:
dadgummit said:
$1300 for a 50mm f1.4?!?!?!? Maybe if it had Canon AF but that is waaaay too steep considering you have to play the sigma lottery. I was going to pre-order this lens if it was in the $800 range but for $1300 i'm out.....

Hilarious! You do realize that this lens is the single greatest generational improvement in image quality in the history of pro Canon or Nikon autofocus lenses right? That's not an exaggeration. We are literally talking around double the performance of the nearest competitor, which run $1700 if you forgot.

Read this part of this thread if you want to know what makes this lens so special:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16643037&postcount=377

This isn't a lens isn't even remotely a question of value. You are getting performance that compares to a $4,000 Zeiss lens for less the the price of the nearest competitors from any brand.
Not sure where you get this all from. About the only description of performance we have so far is from Sigma. Not exactly an unbiased view. If it's very good I'll probably buy it, but proof of the pudding's in the eating.
 
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I don't remember sigma overstating anything lately. The 35mm delivered. The 24-105 is on par with the canon 24-105 and a little better... and it gives sony and nikon people a good option... I don't remember them saying that it was going to light the world on fire.

If they brag now... maybe it is deserved... and since they haven't lied to me recently, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

dslrdummy said:
Radiating said:
dadgummit said:
$1300 for a 50mm f1.4?!?!?!? Maybe if it had Canon AF but that is waaaay too steep considering you have to play the sigma lottery. I was going to pre-order this lens if it was in the $800 range but for $1300 i'm out.....

Hilarious! You do realize that this lens is the single greatest generational improvement in image quality in the history of pro Canon or Nikon autofocus lenses right? That's not an exaggeration. We are literally talking around double the performance of the nearest competitor, which run $1700 if you forgot.

Read this part of this thread if you want to know what makes this lens so special:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16643037&postcount=377

This isn't a lens isn't even remotely a question of value. You are getting performance that compares to a $4,000 Zeiss lens for less the the price of the nearest competitors from any brand.
Not sure where you get this all from. About the only description of performance we have so far is from Sigma. Not exactly an unbiased view. If it's very good I'll probably buy it, but proof of the pudding's in the eating.
 
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Radiating said:
dadgummit said:
$1300 for a 50mm f1.4?!?!?!? Maybe if it had Canon AF but that is waaaay too steep considering you have to play the sigma lottery. I was going to pre-order this lens if it was in the $800 range but for $1300 i'm out.....

You do realize that both Canon and Nikon's top pro 50mm lenses run $1700 right? This lens blows these competitors out of the water in every conceivable dimension and costs less. It is such an improvement over the top alternatives that is the single greatest generational improvement in image quality in the history of pro Canon or Nikon autofocus lenses. That's not an exaggeration. We are literally talking around double the performance of the nearest competitor, which again run $1700 if you forgot.

Read this part of this thread if you want to know what makes this lens so special:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16643037&postcount=377

You are getting performance that compares to a $4,000 Zeiss lens for 3/4 the the price of the nearest competitor.

I welcome the $1300 price tag, this lens deserves it.


I want to introduce you to a website called Slickdeals.net. I take it you arent too bright when it comes to shopping. There are things called deals. It might help you.

For Canon lenses, I recommend canonpricewatch.com. It tracks and can even notify you when a lens is on sale. Its brilliant.

Canon's "top pro 50mm" lens that commands a $1700 price tag can be snagged easily $1300-$1400 when it is on sale. Lowest last year was $1250.

Sigma lenses dont go on sale much. The 35mm f/1.4 Art lens was only on sale ONCE in the last year and a half, and it was a amazon black friday deal.
 
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Mr_Canuck said:
ecka said:
Relax :). It may cost even less than 35Art, like $799.
35Art MSRP:$1,400.00 - Price:$899.00
50Art MSRP:$1,300.00 - Price:$799.00
...makes sense?

Ding! Ding! Ding! You win the prize. I'll put $799 down that you're within 50 bucks. 8)

The 35 art is a really good lens... and in regards to wide open sharpness, it is better than the 35L. But it isn't in a different league. They are close.

The 50 art is supposed to blow away the 50L and is indeed in a different league. I think 1300 is going to be the going rate... and it still will be a bargain. Magic bokehs be damned.
 
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dslrdummy said:
Radiating said:
dadgummit said:
$1300 for a 50mm f1.4?!?!?!? Maybe if it had Canon AF but that is waaaay too steep considering you have to play the sigma lottery. I was going to pre-order this lens if it was in the $800 range but for $1300 i'm out.....

Hilarious! You do realize that this lens is the single greatest generational improvement in image quality in the history of pro Canon or Nikon autofocus lenses right? That's not an exaggeration. We are literally talking around double the performance of the nearest competitor, which run $1700 if you forgot.

Read this part of this thread if you want to know what makes this lens so special:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16643037&postcount=377

This isn't a lens isn't even remotely a question of value. You are getting performance that compares to a $4,000 Zeiss lens for less the the price of the nearest competitors from any brand.
Not sure where you get this all from. About the only description of performance we have so far is from Sigma. No exactly an unbiased view. If it's very good I'll probably buy it, but proof's in the pudding.

Actually Sigma hasn't said too much about the performance of the lens directly, the reason we know this lens is so good is because Sigma provided MTF charts of the lens's performance, block diagrams of their optical formula, and sample copies of the lens at shows.

This lens is a winner at any price point that has been rumored.

Now all that Sigma needs to do is keep up the momentum.
 
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