Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked

Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked

Eldar said:
jhaces said:
jdramirez said:
Viggo said:
Think I will have to try it couple times in the shop, to make sure it's worth it, lol.
I want to go to nyc and spend a few hours trying on gear at b&h... though I have a small concern that they will pretty woman me.

Pretty woman? I feel like they Stockholm Syndrome me every time ;)
This is getting really deep, especially for someone with my native tounge ... I know the Stockholm Syndrome, but what does "they will pretty woman me" mean? :P
It means he will find himself suddenly getting a lot of suggestive attention from the store clerks.
Suggestive in the sense of buying more gear of course.
That's my take at least :)
 
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- May I help you ? - I'm just checkin' some L lenses out.

Are you looking for something in particular ?

No. Well, yeah. Something... with pretty bokeh and reach. 200 f/2, 200-400 x1.4, 85L...

Yes.

- You got nice stuff. - Thank you.

- How much is this ? - I don't think this would fit your body.

Well, I didn't ask if it would fit. I asked how much it was.

How much is this, Marie ?

It's very expensive.

- It's very expensive. - Look, I got money to spend in here.

I don't think we have anything for you.

You're obviously in the wrong place.

Please leave.
 
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Viggo said:
No, it means a makeover , lipstick, curly hair, a new dress, blush and all the trimmings. Then he must pay for all new gear buy sleeping with Nikon fanboys.. Oh, the horror...

I hate in movies when I see a "pro" photog rocking a t2i... or something silly like that. Sure there are some... but not as it relates to the context of the movie.
 
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jdramirez said:
- May I help you ? - I'm just checkin' some L lenses out.

Are you looking for something in particular ?

No. Well, yeah. Something... with pretty bokeh and reach. 200 f/2, 200-400 x1.4, 85L...

Yes.

- You got nice stuff. - Thank you.

- How much is this ? - I don't think this would fit your body.

Well, I didn't ask if it would fit. I asked how much it was.

How much is this, Marie ?

It's very expensive.

- It's very expensive. - Look, I got money to spend in here.

I don't think we have anything for you.

You're obviously in the wrong place.

Please leave.

Years ago I was a postman working in parcels. One day I was in the Jaguar showroom delivering to a sales man who was on a phone call. While I waited I was looking in the window of a very nice XJ6. When the sames man finished he walked over and said "Hey! Do you fancy a test drive in this?" I was a little embarrassed and told him why I was here and held out his parcel. He replied as he signed for his parcel "I didn't ask if you could afford it, I was asking if you wanted a test drive and the offer still stands. You might not be able to afford it today, or tomorrow...but who knows what the future holds for us". We went for a spin and I fell in love with the marque due to his investment in me. Fast forwards 20 years...I'm now a lot more successful and I now drive an XKR convertible. It's my 3rd Jag. His words became a promise and came true, if only all salesmen were that wise.
A wise salesman sows opportunities which others can follow up on, a poor salesman is only interested in low hanging fruit and is a consumer and not a producer.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
Years ago I was a postman working in parcels. One day I was in the Jaguar showroom delivering to a sales man who was on a phone call. While I waited I was looking in the window of a very nice XJ6. When the sames man finished he walked over and said "Hey! Do you fancy a test drive in this?" I was a little embarrassed and told him why I was here and held out his parcel. He replied as he signed for his parcel "I didn't ask if you could afford it, I was asking if you wanted a test drive and the offer still stands. You might not be able to afford it today, or tomorrow...but who knows what the future holds for us". We went for a spin and I fell in love with the marque due to his investment in me. Fast forwards 20 years...I'm now a lot more successful and I now drive an XKR convertible. It's my 3rd Jag. His words became a promise and came true, if only all salesmen were that wise.
A wise salesman sows opportunities which others can follow up on, a poor salesman is only interested in low hanging fruit and is a consumer and not a producer.

Sorry to burst the bubble but he was probably late on his test drive quota. But nice story the way you put it.
 
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Grumbaki said:
GMCPhotographics said:
Years ago I was a postman working in parcels. One day I was in the Jaguar showroom delivering to a sales man who was on a phone call. While I waited I was looking in the window of a very nice XJ6. When the sames man finished he walked over and said "Hey! Do you fancy a test drive in this?" I was a little embarrassed and told him why I was here and held out his parcel. He replied as he signed for his parcel "I didn't ask if you could afford it, I was asking if you wanted a test drive and the offer still stands. You might not be able to afford it today, or tomorrow...but who knows what the future holds for us". We went for a spin and I fell in love with the marque due to his investment in me. Fast forwards 20 years...I'm now a lot more successful and I now drive an XKR convertible. It's my 3rd Jag. His words became a promise and came true, if only all salesmen were that wise.
A wise salesman sows opportunities which others can follow up on, a poor salesman is only interested in low hanging fruit and is a consumer and not a producer.

Sorry to burst the bubble but he was probably late on his test drive quota. But nice story the way you put it.

Do they have quotas at luxury car dealers? I went to the Acura dealer a while back and they just gave me the keys and said, go at it. The Honda dealer... the salesman came with.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
Years ago I was a postman working in parcels. One day I was in the Jaguar showroom delivering to a sales man who was on a phone call. While I waited I was looking in the window of a very nice XJ6. When the sames man finished he walked over and said "Hey! Do you fancy a test drive in this?" I was a little embarrassed and told him why I was here and held out his parcel. He replied as he signed for his parcel "I didn't ask if you could afford it, I was asking if you wanted a test drive and the offer still stands. You might not be able to afford it today, or tomorrow...but who knows what the future holds for us". We went for a spin and I fell in love with the marque due to his investment in me. Fast forwards 20 years...I'm now a lot more successful and I now drive an XKR convertible. It's my 3rd Jag. His words became a promise and came true, if only all salesmen were that wise.
A wise salesman sows opportunities which others can follow up on, a poor salesman is only interested in low hanging fruit and is a consumer and not a producer.
That is AWESOME! ... no matter what others say about that salesman's motive, he sure was a good salesman ... a sale isn't only about selling the product, it is also about customer service ... and that salesman displayed great customer service.
 
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If it's $1300 I likely will not buy it. In the rare circumstance in which my 35mm Art is just too wide, I'll settle for my Canon 50mm f/1.4. This may be mostly psychological but at $1100 I might just go for the 50mm Art.

Coming in at 1/3 the price of the Otus but with similar build quality, nearly-as-good optics and AF? If all that can be said, I think Sigma will get quite a few takers even at this price.
 
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iron-t said:
If it's $1300 I likely will not buy it. In the rare circumstance in which my 35mm Art is just too wide, I'll settle for my Canon 50mm f/1.4. This may be mostly psychological but at $1100 I might just go for the 50mm Art.

Coming in at 1/3 the price of the Otus but with similar build quality, nearly-as-good optics and AF? If all that can be said, I think Sigma will get quite a few takers even at this price.

The release price might be $1300... but after a year on sale (or an Amazon lightening sale) it might be $1100.

This year Amazon had a 35 art for $700 as part of their lightening sale.
 
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iron-t said:
If it's $1300 I likely will not buy it. In the rare circumstance in which my 35mm Art is just too wide, I'll settle for my Canon 50mm f/1.4. This may be mostly psychological but at $1100 I might just go for the 50mm Art.

Coming in at 1/3 the price of the Otus but with similar build quality, nearly-as-good optics and AF? If all that can be said, I think Sigma will get quite a few takers even at this price.

The only difference is that the Otus is cool and can be shown off, the Sigma can't. This is why I think the price will be < 1000 USD.
 
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Albi86 said:
iron-t said:
If it's $1300 I likely will not buy it. In the rare circumstance in which my 35mm Art is just too wide, I'll settle for my Canon 50mm f/1.4. This may be mostly psychological but at $1100 I might just go for the 50mm Art.

Coming in at 1/3 the price of the Otus but with similar build quality, nearly-as-good optics and AF? If all that can be said, I think Sigma will get quite a few takers even at this price.

The only difference is that the Otus is cool and can be shown off, the Sigma can't. This is why I think the price will be < 1000 USD.

I beg your pardon! My two Sigma Art lenses attract a great deal of attention.
 
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Albi86 said:
The only difference is that the Otus is cool and can be shown off, the Sigma can't. This is why I think the price will be < 1000 USD.

I'll give you that the Otus is cool, but I'd rather show off my exacting standards and practicality than my massive disposable income and badge worship any day.
 
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Albi86 said:
iron-t said:
If it's $1300 I likely will not buy it. In the rare circumstance in which my 35mm Art is just too wide, I'll settle for my Canon 50mm f/1.4. This may be mostly psychological but at $1100 I might just go for the 50mm Art.

Coming in at 1/3 the price of the Otus but with similar build quality, nearly-as-good optics and AF? If all that can be said, I think Sigma will get quite a few takers even at this price.

The only difference is that the Otus is cool and can be shown off, the Sigma can't. This is why I think the price will be < 1000 USD.


Sometimes the psychological stuff is really really illogical. Here's the situation we are dealing with performance numbers and perception wise:

Lens Designers: "Hi there Sir, there has been a major breakthrough in lens technology that allows us to double the performance of any prior 50mm primes, this is the single greatest improvement in image quality in the history of photography lenses in one generation, and it costs 25% less than the top of the line competitors, has better build quality and feel and has no drawbacks whatsoever"

Photographer: "Great that's the best thing I've ever heard a lens designer invent, perfect"

Lens Designer: "That's what we thought, it's called the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART, and it costs $1300"

Photographer: "That's too much for a Sigma"

This makes no sense.
 
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Radiating said:
Sometimes the psychological stuff is really really illogical. Here's the situation we are dealing with performance numbers and perception wise:

Lens Designers: "Hi there Sir, there has been a major breakthrough in lens technology that allows us to double the performance of any prior 50mm primes, this is the single greatest improvement in image quality in the history of photography lenses in one generation, and it costs 25% less than the top of the line competitors, has better build quality and feel and has no drawbacks whatsoever"

Photographer: "Great that's the best thing I've ever heard a lens designer invent, perfect"

Lens Designer: "That's what we thought, it's called the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART, and it costs $1300"

Photographer: "That's too much for a Sigma"

This makes no sense.

It only makes sense if the next step is not:

Photographer: "What am I saying, of course I'll pay $1300 for it."

By the way, I am so annoyed! My sigma 35 has really performed perfectly until now, today it started showing first signs of imperfection! :( (AF inconsistency indoors. Viggo, I owe you an apology.) So sad. It's never done that before. It's still 99.5% perfect but... I really thought since it was a perfect copy it would stay that way. Sigma, please make your quality control better!
 
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flowers said:
Radiating said:
Sometimes the psychological stuff is really really illogical. Here's the situation we are dealing with performance numbers and perception wise:

Lens Designers: "Hi there Sir, there has been a major breakthrough in lens technology that allows us to double the performance of any prior 50mm primes, this is the single greatest improvement in image quality in the history of photography lenses in one generation, and it costs 25% less than the top of the line competitors, has better build quality and feel and has no drawbacks whatsoever"

Photographer: "Great that's the best thing I've ever heard a lens designer invent, perfect"

Lens Designer: "That's what we thought, it's called the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART, and it costs $1300"

Photographer: "That's too much for a Sigma"

This makes no sense.

It only makes sense if the next step is not:

Photographer: "What am I saying, of course I'll pay $1300 for it."

By the way, I am so annoyed! My sigma 35 has really performed perfectly until now, today it started showing first signs of imperfection! :( (AF inconsistency indoors. Viggo, I owe you an apology.) So sad. It's never done that before. It's still 99.5% perfect but... I really thought since it was a perfect copy it would stay that way. Sigma, please make your quality control better!

And that is why I will never, ever, buy a third party lens. Sure Canon lenses have issues, but I know how to get them fixed and I also know there will never be a compatibility issue with any EOS body, ever. To me that is worth far more than some extra lppmm.
 
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