So what makes a camera a "pro" camera?
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Menace said:
But I want to argue that, the professional you refer here is the whole system not the camera only..
For me professional camera means, reliable in terms of photo taking.. not necessarily complete or high features.
and Should accept 2 memory cards.
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People can make all kind of "own" definitions.
I tend to follow Canon definition and they reserve "Professional" to the 1D-series. So the cut off for Canon is that 5D/5DII/5DIII did/do not qualify. Just taking a 5D/5DII/5DIII into your hand and then comparing with a 1D-series camera says everything.
This makes sense as most Camera makers (all?) typically have reserved their absolute top model(s) for the designation "Pro".
Thus, when it comes to hardware I do not currently have any "Pro" camera.
I tend to follow Canon definition and they reserve "Professional" to the 1D-series. So the cut off for Canon is that 5D/5DII/5DIII did/do not qualify. Just taking a 5D/5DII/5DIII into your hand and then comparing with a 1D-series camera says everything.
This makes sense as most Camera makers (all?) typically have reserved their absolute top model(s) for the designation "Pro".
Thus, when it comes to hardware I do not currently have any "Pro" camera.
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When elves take photos of children with Santa, they typically use the cheapest Canon DSLRs. Seeing these elves make up more than half of all the pro photographers in the world (and possibly 90%+ of the higher income ones), does that make their cameras "pro" cameras?
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Maiaibing said:
Sorry, but that is simply not true. Canon does classify the 5D3 as a professional camera, as least in Europe. Take a look at these Canon websites:
http://www.canon.dk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/professional/
http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/professional/
http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/professional/
http://www.canon.fr/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/professional/
Oddly, the 5D3 is categorized as 'Enthusiast' on the canon.com.au website, and the Canon USA and CN websites don't make that distinction in their website layout.
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Hillsilly said:
I presume that many would try to make a "no true Scotsman" argument about that. ;D
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Apparently when it has two memory cards ... according to KR ...
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/5d-mk-iii.htm
or at least when KR says it's professional ...
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d700.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/1d-x.htm
But then again, maybe gear isn't truly professional unless KR says it's "fully professional"?
http://www.kenrockwell.com/sony/a99.htm
http://kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/35mm-is.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/70-200mm-f28.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/100-400mm.htm
...
Joking aside, I think the answer is there is no such thing as a professional camera. People are professionals - which comes from a combination of knowledge, skill and application (and some would say earning money therefrom). Gear cannot possess those attributes.
Gear can be designed for professionals, ie designed with a focus on the likely/perceived needs of professionals - which generally speaking will go beyond high quality optics and AF to features like tough/resilient build quality and weather-sealing (eg do you want your professional photographer failing to get good shots of your event because a bit of rain sent him/her scurrying inside to protect his/her equipment?) - but that is a separate issue.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/5d-mk-iii.htm
or at least when KR says it's professional ...
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d700.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/1d-x.htm
But then again, maybe gear isn't truly professional unless KR says it's "fully professional"?
http://www.kenrockwell.com/sony/a99.htm
http://kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/35mm-is.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/70-200mm-f28.htm
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/100-400mm.htm
...
Joking aside, I think the answer is there is no such thing as a professional camera. People are professionals - which comes from a combination of knowledge, skill and application (and some would say earning money therefrom). Gear cannot possess those attributes.
Gear can be designed for professionals, ie designed with a focus on the likely/perceived needs of professionals - which generally speaking will go beyond high quality optics and AF to features like tough/resilient build quality and weather-sealing (eg do you want your professional photographer failing to get good shots of your event because a bit of rain sent him/her scurrying inside to protect his/her equipment?) - but that is a separate issue.
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kaihp said:
Interesting. I'll take a closer look when I have more time. Also a surprise when compared to other Canon info such as their promo materials at release (which I checked but not for Europe). Maybe because its so expensive in Europe compared to the rest of the Western World? Or because 5D/5DII/5DIII makes you qualify for the European CPS-programme?
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