Sony Claims Adapted Canon Lenses AF Nearly as Fast as on a Canon DSLR.

[zlatko]

Just love the A7R II specs and to watch, how SOny ios now reaölly hunting down Canon and their uninnovative boring old mirrorslappers.

BUT ... I am very sceptical when it comes to using Canon EF lenses via a third party adapter (Metabones) on a Sony camera. Canon has so often resorted to making oh so slight changes to their proprietary EF lens mount protocol in order to throw a monkey wrench into third party plays.

If Sony wants to brag about their AF system in conjunction with Canon glass, they really should make that adapter themselves and sell it to their A7-purchasers for a reasonable 99 USD/Euro. Rather than relying on fly-by-night third party reverse engineers like metabones who will make you buy yet another version of their adapter every year at 500 USD a piece.

So those innovators at Sony don't even make an EF to FE adapter, but have to make AF speed claims for a 3rd party's adapter? Seems like with all of that innovation going on they could at least make an adapter to use with all of the lenses missing from their system.

 

[Oneand0]

So those innovators at Sony don't even make an EF to FE adapter, but have to make AF speed claims for a 3rd party's adapter? Seems like with all of that innovation going on they could at least make an adapter to use with all of the lenses missing from their system.


They will do that next!

 

[wockawocka]

Just love the A7R II specs and to watch, how SOny ios now reaölly hunting down Canon and their uninnovative boring old mirrorslappers.

BUT ... I am very sceptical when it comes to using Canon EF lenses via a third party adapter (Metabones) on a Sony camera. Canon has so often resorted to making oh so slight changes to their proprietary EF lens mount protocol in order to throw a monkey wrench into third party plays.

If Sony wants to brag about their AF system in conjunction with Canon glass, they really should make that adapter themselves and sell it to their A7-purchasers for a reasonable 99 USD/Euro. Rather than relying on fly-by-night third party reverse engineers like metabones who will make you buy yet another version of their adapter every year at 500 USD a piece.

So those innovators at Sony don't even make an EF to FE adapter, but have to make AF speed claims for a 3rd party's adapter? Seems like with all of that innovation going on they could at least make an adapter to use with all of the lenses missing from their system.

Sony don't want a lawsuit from Canon.

 

[that1guyy]

Just love the A7R II specs and to watch, how SOny ios now reaölly hunting down Canon and their uninnovative boring old mirrorslappers.

BUT ... I am very sceptical when it comes to using Canon EF lenses via a third party adapter (Metabones) on a Sony camera. Canon has so often resorted to making oh so slight changes to their proprietary EF lens mount protocol in order to throw a monkey wrench into third party plays.

If Sony wants to brag about their AF system in conjunction with Canon glass, they really should make that adapter themselves and sell it to their A7-purchasers for a reasonable 99 USD/Euro. Rather than relying on fly-by-night third party reverse engineers like metabones who will make you buy yet another version of their adapter every year at 500 USD a piece.

So those innovators at Sony don't even make an EF to FE adapter, but have to make AF speed claims for a 3rd party's adapter? Seems like with all of that innovation going on they could at least make an adapter to use with all of the lenses missing from their system.

Sony don't want a lawsuit from Canon.

The third party adapters don't have an AF module. The adapters still use Sony's built in AF so I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.

 

[Loswr]

The third party adapters don't have an AF module. The adapters still use Sony's built in AF so I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.

Put a Sony lens on an a7R, AF is reliable and quick. Put a Canon lens on a Canon body, AF is reliable and quick. Put a Canon lens on an a7R via a Metabones adapter, AF is kludgy and slow as molasses in January.

That's why Sony feels the need to talk up adapted AF for the a7RII.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

http://sigma-rumors.com/2015/06/sigma-full-frame-fe-mount-lenses/

This makes me happy and hopefully it comes true sooner than later.

It would be very cool to see Sigma 50/1.4 Art with a native E or FE mount for Sony.

Same too if Tamron delivered a 15-30 and 24-70/2.8 VC for Sony mount.

If I were Sony I'd be talking to Sigma and Tamron about getting lenses for E & FE mounts out in the market.

I thought that Sony shared their AF system with third parties many years ago. What impacts third party lens makers is the potential for sales. They have a better handle on sales than we do, and so far, they have not been impressed, or they would have been churning them out. Who can blame them, is the FE mount another Sony mount of the month, or will they stick to it for 2 or 3 years?

 

[robber98]

This could easily backfire on Sony. If it is true what they are claiming about AF than why would anyone continue buying Sony glass? Why would you buy 'OK' glass that is more expensive? Because you had to if you were a Sony shooter. I think more Sony shooters will switch to Canon glass than Canon shooters will switch to Sony bodys. Win win for Canon.

Weather resistance is the reason; you loss weather resistance when using 3rd party glasses w/ adapter.

 

[candc]

http://sigma-rumors.com/2015/06/sigma-full-frame-fe-mount-lenses/

This makes me happy and hopefully it comes true sooner than later.

It would be very cool to see Sigma 50/1.4 Art with a native E or FE mount for Sony.

Same too if Tamron delivered a 15-30 and 24-70/2.8 VC for Sony mount.

If I were Sony I'd be talking to Sigma and Tamron about getting lenses for E & FE mounts out in the market.

I thought that Sony shared their AF system with third parties many years ago. What impacts third party lens makers is the potential for sales. They have a better handle on sales than we do, and so far, they have not been impressed, or they would have been churning them out. Who can blame them, is the FE mount another Sony mount of the month, or will they stick to it for 2 or 3 years?

Zeiss is starting to make e mount lenses now. I expect there will be some other 3rd party lenses coming for Sony before too long.

 

[Orangutan]

If this works well and doesn't backfire in Sony's face, it is a very smart move because it gives them a way to win over Canon owners.

After the A7RII is available, if I want to try the Sony system out I can buy camera + adapter and keep my Canon lenses, minimizing the transition cost. If I like the A7RII then I may decide that I need less Canon gear and more Sony (depends on what lenses and how they work.) So for the price of a camera body I can move from Canon to Sony...

Yup, this is the way of the future: Sony or another company will come out with a mirrorless that has NO native mount, but just a meta-mount that takes adapters for any brand of lens. One body + lenses for any mount.

Or to put it in a differently, Canon can no longer defend its revenue with its EOS EF portfolio as they have in the past. If Canon wants to lock people in and defend revenue, they need to go mirrorless. i.e. the decision to go mirrorless will be profit motivated, not science or technology motivated.

Now... tell me where I'm wrong

You're not (entirely) wrong. The era of defending your system with lens lock-in is soon going away with mirrorless. That doesn't mean sports/bird shooters won't still reach for a 1DXII for superior performance.

I've given up predicting when mirrorless will win, but it's just a matter of time before all the engineering catches up to the need.

 

[fragilesi]

If this works well and doesn't backfire in Sony's face, it is a very smart move because it gives them a way to win over Canon owners.

After the A7RII is available, if I want to try the Sony system out I can buy camera + adapter and keep my Canon lenses, minimizing the transition cost. If I like the A7RII then I may decide that I need less Canon gear and more Sony (depends on what lenses and how they work.) So for the price of a camera body I can move from Canon to Sony...

I agree it's a smart move. Sony have put their efforts into bodies at the expense of their overall system offering. They are so far behind on lenses that they know they wont catch up any time soon and they are fortunate that the key enabling innovation got done for them.

But your conclusion above is wrong. You cannot move from Canon to Sony for the price of a camera body. you are moving from Canon to a hybrid system from three different manufacturers for the price of a body and adaptor. This may work well often but it's a real leap of faith and a setup that I would guess many pros wouldn't consider without something else with a little less "Frankenstein" to pair it with.

 

[Loswr]

If...

...if...

...might...

Now... tell me where I'm wrong

Done.