Sony finally offers big/fast zooms

[Orangutan]

1) Forgive me for posturing -- I didn't start this thread as a cause to bolt, flip, migrate, or happy dance. I just find the offering a step towards a Sony having a more fully fleshed out lens portfolio.

2) I have no delusions whatsoever that these lenses will perform across the board as well as their closest Canon counterparts. They are likely to be sharp for their ~ $2k asking prices (the 70-200 has no price as of this moment!), but other than that, all bets are off. I highly doubt they are as well-built and well thought through as current L lenses.

3) I also ran a quick weight assessment for fun (source: B&H):

The small walkaround setup:
5D3 + 28mm f/2.8 IS USM = 1,121g
A7R II + 35mm f/2.8 + 2 extra batteries = 835g

The pickle jar setup:
5D3 + 24-70 2.8L II = 1,665 g
A7R II + 24-70 2.8 GM + 2 extra batteries = 1,616g
...

How about a "Lets add enough weight to the A7RII setup so that it no longer has as big of a weight advantage."

How about a 'let's stop taking pictures afte a couple of hours because of the a7RII's poor battery life." :

Just bring extra batteries.

The point holds, though: the a7RII's weight advantage is most significant with the body cap in place.

 

[Loswr]

1) Forgive me for posturing -- I didn't start this thread as a cause to bolt, flip, migrate, or happy dance. I just find the offering a step towards a Sony having a more fully fleshed out lens portfolio.

2) I have no delusions whatsoever that these lenses will perform across the board as well as their closest Canon counterparts. They are likely to be sharp for their ~ $2k asking prices (the 70-200 has no price as of this moment!), but other than that, all bets are off. I highly doubt they are as well-built and well thought through as current L lenses.

3) I also ran a quick weight assessment for fun (source: B&H):

The small walkaround setup:
5D3 + 28mm f/2.8 IS USM = 1,121g
A7R II + 35mm f/2.8 + 2 extra batteries = 835g

The pickle jar setup:
5D3 + 24-70 2.8L II = 1,665 g
A7R II + 24-70 2.8 GM + 2 extra batteries = 1,616g
...

How about a "Lets add enough weight to the A7RII setup so that it no longer has as big of a weight advantage."

How about a 'let's stop taking pictures afte a couple of hours because of the a7RII's poor battery life." :

Just bring extra batteries.

The point holds, though: the a7RII's weight advantage is most significant with the body cap in place.

Yeah, that was addressed in the original comparison. In dilbertland there's no need for extra batteries, because the a7RII is powered by a cold fusion cell good for billions of shots.

 

[3kramd5]

How about a 'let's stop taking pictures afte a couple of hours because of the a7RII's poor battery life." :

It's not that bad provided you diligently disable the display when you aren't actively using it (I have a button mapped). I've never carried more than 1 extra battery, and I've never run out of batteries.

That being said, as much as some people would like to write position papers on adapted lenses and the AF system, it isn't an action camera. If you use it as such (buffer out chasing birds or athletes), it won't last long.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

1) Forgive me for posturing -- I didn't start this thread as a cause to bolt, flip, migrate, or happy dance. I just find the offering a step towards a Sony having a more fully fleshed out lens portfolio.

2) I have no delusions whatsoever that these lenses will perform across the board as well as their closest Canon counterparts. They are likely to be sharp for their ~ $2k asking prices (the 70-200 has no price as of this moment!), but other than that, all bets are off. I highly doubt they are as well-built and well thought through as current L lenses.

3) I also ran a quick weight assessment for fun (source: B&H):

The small walkaround setup:
5D3 + 28mm f/2.8 IS USM = 1,121g
A7R II + 35mm f/2.8 + 2 extra batteries = 835g

The pickle jar setup:
5D3 + 24-70 2.8L II = 1,665 g
A7R II + 24-70 2.8 GM + 2 extra batteries = 1,616g
...

How about a "Lets add enough weight to the A7RII setup so that it no longer has as big of a weight advantage."

How about a 'let's stop taking pictures afte a couple of hours because of the a7RII's poor battery life." :

Just bring extra batteries.

The point holds, though: the a7RII's weight advantage is most significant with the body cap in place.

Or just pretend they are film canisters and be amazed at how they can carry a couple more than 36 shots per roll.

 

[jrista]

How about a 'let's stop taking pictures afte a couple of hours because of the a7RII's poor battery life." :

It's not that bad provided you diligently disable the display when you aren't actively using it (I have a button mapped). I've never carried more than 1 extra battery, and I've never run out of batteries.

That being said, as much as some people would like to write position papers on adapted lenses and the AF system, it isn't an action camera. If you use it as such (buffer out chasing birds or athletes), it won't last long.

I never had any problems with the A7r when i was using it. It is extremely easy to just power off the camera, and I just got in the habit of doing that every time I was done with a shot or series of shots. One battery last me over a day.

 

[3kramd5]

How about a 'let's stop taking pictures afte a couple of hours because of the a7RII's poor battery life." :

It's not that bad provided you diligently disable the display when you aren't actively using it (I have a button mapped). I've never carried more than 1 extra battery, and I've never run out of batteries.

That being said, as much as some people would like to write position papers on adapted lenses and the AF system, it isn't an action camera. If you use it as such (buffer out chasing birds or athletes), it won't last long.

I never had any problems with the A7r when i was using it. It is extremely easy to just power off the camera, and I just got in the habit of doing that every time I was done with a shot or series of shots. One battery last me over a day.

The displays are the heavy hitters when the camera is idling. The EVF is off when you aren't looking through it, and toggling the rear monitor off is easy. My camera sleeps after a couple minutes anyway, which is pretty much as good as powering down.

Another consideration: turn on airplane mode. WIFI sucks it down.