... the A7rII has killed the Canon 5Ds 50 Megapixel camera.... :-(

[xps]

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/kai-says-the-a7rii-has-killed-the-canon-5ds-50-megapixel-camera/


I was thinking of ordering an 5DSR (€3700). As it is nearly as expensive as the 7RII (€3500) here in Germany.

But would´nt it be better to wait - for an 5DIV? Maybe the 5DIV will get more updates - I think in one thing Mr. Kai is right: Canon is keeping revolutionary updates back. For their premium camera models

 

[Eldar]

I am getting a git bored with trying to form an opinion, based on two camps of fanboys and all the ranting in between, so I have ordered both to decide for myself. Hopefully the 5DSR is coming this week and I am no.2 in line for the A7RII.

 

[WorkonSunday]

i thought A7rII is not weather sealed? :

 

[robber98]

i thought A7rII is not weather sealed? :

A7rII is weather resistant.

 

[xps]

I am getting a git bored with trying to form an opinion, based on two camps of fanboys and all the ranting in between, so I have ordered both to decide for myself. Hopefully the 5DSR is coming this week and I am no.2 in line for the A7RII.

Mr. Eldar, this is the way I will do so too. For me it is not so easy to order both cameras and give one back, but some fanboys in my neighbourhood are buying one. The I will compare them too. And compare them with my 5DIII and an 7RI.

But I am convinced, Canon is able to do "more". Maybe the 7RII and the coming other Sony sensor based cameras will force Canon to put "more" innovation in their coming products.

I am astonished that the 7R II is so expensive. Almost 4000$ in Germany (3500€) you will have to pay for it. The 5DSR ist actually at 3700€ (4200$).

 

[Eldar]

I will not be able to return one, so its abit costly, but I believe I will keep both anyway. My main reason for getting the A7RII is for its manual focus capability. I expect to have a separate bag with the Zeiss lenses and this camera and use the Canon bodies with my EF lenses.

 

[xps]

I will not be able to return one, so its abit costly, but I believe I will keep both anyway. My main reason for getting the A7RII is for its manual focus capability. I expect to have a separate bag with the Zeiss lenses and this camera and use the Canon bodies with my EF lenses.

If you have tested them, please tell us your experiences. I would like to buy the 7RII too, but I can buy just one Camera this year. So it is the best to wait.
But one thing I can tell you: Try the Batis lenses on the 7RII. Great lens.

 

[bitm2007]

I am getting a git bored with trying to form an opinion, based on two camps of fanboys and all the ranting in between, so I have ordered both to decide for myself. Hopefully the 5DSR is coming this week and I am no.2 in line for the A7RII.

Is there any loss of image quality, when using the Sony A7 range with a Metabones Canon EF lens adaptor ?.

 

[MickDK]

Is there any loss of image quality, when using the Sony A7 range with a Metabones Canon EF lens adaptor ?.

No. The adapter does not contain any optical elements.

 

[WorkonSunday]

I am getting a git bored with trying to form an opinion, based on two camps of fanboys and all the ranting in between, so I have ordered both to decide for myself. Hopefully the 5DSR is coming this week and I am no.2 in line for the A7RII.

Is there any loss of image quality, when using the Sony A7 range with a Metabones Canon EF lens adaptor ?.

nope. there is no optical elements in between. but the adaptors/mount manufacturing torlence does vary. my A7r shifts fair abit now after using it with heavier lens like sony's 70-400mm. the shift MAY cause some misalginment i.e. less sharp image, especially towards more extreme corners/edge. but i personally cant tell if the drop in sharpness is just my lens are not good enough or misalignment issue.

 

[bitm2007]

I am getting a git bored with trying to form an opinion, based on two camps of fanboys and all the ranting in between, so I have ordered both to decide for myself. Hopefully the 5DSR is coming this week and I am no.2 in line for the A7RII.

Is there any loss of image quality, when using the Sony A7 range with a Metabones Canon EF lens adaptor ?.

nope. there is no optical elements in between. but the adaptors/mount manufacturing torlence does vary. my A7r shifts fair abit now after using it with heavier lens like sony's 70-400mm. the shift MAY cause some misalginment i.e. less sharp image, especially towards more extreme corners/edge. but i personally cant tell if the drop in sharpness is just my lens are not good enough or misalignment issue.

As a landscape photographer corner sharpness is of paramount importance me. What lenses are you using when you experience this ?. I'm particularly interested in whether there maybe any issue with wide angle L lenses.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

So lemme get this straight. Some guy who performs on a youtube channel where they parody stuff says that camera X "kills" camera Y and people are concerned with it.

I am not getting this.

I like watching DRTV. I find it entertaining and often amusing. But I would consider them in the same light as Top Gear when it comes to expressing opinions about their respective stuff.

As Willy Shakespeare said: Much ado about squat.

 

[NorbR]

So lemme get this straight. Some guy who performs on a youtube channel where they parody stuff says that camera X "kills" camera Y and people are concerned with it.

Oh, but it's even worse.

Kai wrote a blog post that he titled "Sony a7r II: the Canon 5Ds R killer". This has been picked up and transformed into "Sony a7r II has killed the Canon 5Ds R". Not bad for a camera that has barely been announced, is not even on the market, and that only a handful of people have actually had the opportunity to try. But it has gone for the kill already. The deed is done. Murder, she wrote. Your shiny new 5Ds is now dead. Sorry.

Of course if you read what Kai actually wrote, it may be another story. Things like:

"Different products, different targets. For sure, someone will be eagle-eyed enough to spot that they're not meant to compete with each other: the 5Ds R is meant for professional photographers, mainly current Canon users, and for a small number of enthusiasts who want to have incredibly high resolution stills images and not much else; the a7R II is meant for enthusiasts who want to have incredibly high resolution stills images, video and a lot more."

or

"I'm not going to say that the Sony a7R II is a better camera than the Canon 5Ds R, I'm not comparing the cameras as such. But what should be compared are the approaches of the respective manufacturers of each camera. [...] When you look at what Canon are coming up with and then what Sony are doing, you can't help but think that Canon are holding something back, playing it safe."

Fair points imho, and far from "Camera A has killed Camera B".

But then again I clearly have a lot to learn about writing titles for blog posts ... like when someone can take an interview where a Sony exec essentially says "Yep, we hear people complaining about lossy RAW, if enough of them complain we may do something about it, some day, and technically it could be done in firmware" and turn it to a "Uncompressed RAW coming soon in firmware update !!" headline. :

 

[zlatko]

Ridiculous headline.

 

[Click]

Ridiculous headline.

+1

 

[Sporgon]

More interested in the tech than the picture. A highly vocal minority.

 

[NancyP]

Who can tell? One camera has just started shipping, one camera is not yet available. I want to see both out in the real world before I make any decision.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Lemme tell you about that new Ford that is coming out in 2017. It sucks and will be the death of FoMoCo.

 

[Pinchers of Peril]

I am getting a git bored with trying to form an opinion, based on two camps of fanboys and all the ranting in between, so I have ordered both to decide for myself. Hopefully the 5DSR is coming this week and I am no.2 in line for the A7RII.

Yes, please let us know what you think after using both of them. Curious to see how they compare in "real world" shooting

 

[Eldar]

I am getting a git bored with trying to form an opinion, based on two camps of fanboys and all the ranting in between, so I have ordered both to decide for myself. Hopefully the 5DSR is coming this week and I am no.2 in line for the A7RII.

Yes, please let us know what you think after using both of them. Curious to see how they compare in "real world" shooting

Picked up the 5DSR today (the first test shots of The Local Lion are done ), but the A7RII is still weeks away, so there will be some time before I can do any comparisons.

First 5 minute look at the output from the 5DSR is very promising. It seems to be over exposing a bit, but that may be a minor adjustment. The sound of the mirror will delight the wedding photographers. Very soft sound. Very nice to have EC in manual mode with Auto-ISO. The first shadows look very nice at 100ISO and resolution is stunning.

So regarding the title of this thread ... Not sure that will happen ...

Now I have others things to do, so have a nice evening